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Chief
01-13-2004, 01:31 AM
This was sent to me a few minutes ago. Most intelligent piece I've read in quite some time.

For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired USAF
4-star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our
front-line
fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, VA.
General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be politically
correct.

His short speech is very much to the point. The following are
excerpts:

"Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such
surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them
too.
Here they are:

1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."
Listen carefully:
We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and
free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean,
"We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the
ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has,
with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be the
greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in
history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what
happens.

2) "Violence only leads to more violence." This one is so stupid
you
usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it.
Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already:
Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence. Limp, panicky,
half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully
thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to
more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all
dead.
That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured
back
into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E --Well, you get the idea.

3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have failed
us."
For 25 year s we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the
ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not
protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee
Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided
that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy
satellites. "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate
from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a
license plate. Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding
humans
is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we
bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the
really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans
into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks
like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a
coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to
meet
that bin Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving
the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.

4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're
angry
at us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a
desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer
than
Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor
helpless
people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay
in
power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes
into the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew
this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads
marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who
grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers
and spend more time drinking. It's the same today.

5) "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, the
Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an
article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin
Laden
family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff,
never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm
crushed. Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World"
for
a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor
in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and
turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't
offend them."

SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget our murdered
brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their
immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's political
science professor says, we didn' t start this. Have you seen that
bumper
sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says,
"No
More Pearl Harbors."

Kanapolis
01-16-2004, 10:14 PM
And you know what, I'll buy that bumber sticker and if you want to make one that says "no more 9:11" I'll buy that one too !!!!

Dr.Doom
01-19-2004, 09:47 PM
Its also interesting how americans are at greater risk of being killed on their own streets (8 per day) and safer in Iraq with a death rate of 6 per day after the war has ended.

Chief
01-20-2004, 03:37 AM
Doc, if that's the case, why is every liberal in the United States squealing like a pig under a gate because the so-called modern-day Hitler, George Bush, is sending all these people to their deaths? If your figures are correct, your statement suggests we'd be better off sending a bunch more over there...

Approximately 240,000 troops in Iraq. 6 per day = one out of 40,000 daily.

Approximately 280 million people in the US. 8 per day = one out of 35 million daily.

Math ain't addin' up, bro. Sounds like the bullshit spin that you hear on CNN.....

War is terrible...this one included...all our prayers should be going out to the brave men and women in the region.
It's also necessary. Sorry, Wesley Clark. Funny how you unashamedly supported the war two years ago. Now that you're running for office, all of a sudden Bush is an unpatriotic murderer?
We defeat terrorism now - or we'll be looking at something much worse than 911 down the road. I'll match wits with ANYBODY that tries to tell me "if we'd just try to understand those people"....."if America would just mind it's own business"...
America DOES stick its nose where it doesn't belong at times. America DOES, on occasion..stumble in its' foreign policy agenda...the way Canada has been mistreated is one...but, remember this the next time you point the finger at the USA...
Terrorists are fanatical extremists that place no value on human life...they hate liberty and freedom- the very things that this, and many other countries founded upon. They aren't anti-American...they're anti-EVERYTHING that is good and right with this world. There were nearly a thousand Islamic people in those two towers...think they gave a rat's ass about that?

Got off on a tangent....excuse, please...no disrespect to you, Doctor. Just a reminder to look at the whole picture, not just a biased slice of it. :)

02-03-2004, 06:40 PM

Kanapolis
02-04-2004, 09:57 PM
Heeeellllllllllll yeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Brother !

Chief
02-04-2004, 10:55 PM
One thing everyone needs to remember...quit believing everything the damn media tells you. There's so much politics involved...and besides, this is an election year, so the BS is really deep.
What we DON'T need is fighting among ourselves, and with our good neighbors and friends from Canada. The press would have us all hating each other.....
Everyone should be proud of their homeland..wherever that is. The first sonofabitch that crosses your border and tries to destroy what you and those before you have worked years and years for - for no reason other than to persue some fanatical goal (like 72 virgins, maybe? :rolleyes: )...is a terrorist, period. And there ain't but one proper ending for such a person....on the business end of a .50 caliber bullet. :mad:

JT
02-04-2004, 10:59 PM
I've never had a virgin, so I wouldn't really know for sure, but after two or three, wouldn't you want somebody with a little more experience? I don't know about you guys, but I can't think of anything nicer than a woman who knows what she wants. (in bed at least) These guys pulling this terrorist shit don't have the brain power to thoughouly think anything through to a logical conclusion.

quazievil
02-04-2004, 11:08 PM
YEAH!!! Especially if you come after our Canadian Virgins... :snipersmi

Seriouly though, Well said Cheif.

Chief
02-04-2004, 11:13 PM
YEAH!!! Especially if you come after our Canadian Virgins... :snipersmi

I got your back, brother.... ;)

02-05-2004, 03:36 AM

quazievil
02-05-2004, 04:22 PM
I've got a BB gun...somewhere... I won't kill ya but it will take out an eye...

4x4
02-05-2004, 04:51 PM
Quazi ,

You must be Canadian , we all have BB guns ..
They won't let us go any bigger ! :p

02-05-2004, 08:18 PM

Chief
02-05-2004, 08:45 PM
I still have my old Benjamin pump pellet gun that I got for my 9th or 10th birthday - so it definitely qualifies as an antique. Hell, I've killed lots more birds - plus a couple of streetlights :eek: - with that thing than I ever have with a 20 gauge. Maybe they'd let me hunt in Canada.
500 fps limit? Guess that leaves out that rifle that "scoped" me in the eye on Christmas eve...(4500 fps) :(

02-05-2004, 08:57 PM

quazievil
02-11-2004, 05:47 PM
We have guns... I've got lots of friends with a wide range of hunting riffles... but no ak's or grenade launchers... least not in my neck of the woods.

Other than that BB gun the only other weapon of choice for me is an old Baseball Bat I have with my name on it. Nothing would be more satisfying then tattoing my name to some asshole terrorist forehead.

Peace

02-11-2004, 10:08 PM

tbelisle
04-22-2004, 06:06 PM
My Canadian weapon of choice in my neck of the woods has by far, got to be the "potato gun".
Don't knock it... left a pretty hefty dent in a garbage dumpster that a 12 gauge could not even touch.
Of course, bigger is better... My gun is 6 feet long and I even installed a laser sight to help out with the accuracy issue.

Mash or fried???

BTW... If you guys have never seen one in action, you should! Shooting at night is even better as you see a 2-3 feet flame comming out of the barrel.

mili
04-22-2004, 06:25 PM
It is great misconception that Canadians cannot have guns. You can have any gun as long as it is not automatic and they put a limit on teh magazine size. That is about it. I know a guy who has AK1, they are not illegal with permits. Canadians just don;t go out and massacre fellow Canadians so happily. Watch "Bowling for Columbine" and you will see, it is the culture of fear that Americans have that is driving you to extremes.

mili

Slaveboy
05-20-2004, 12:16 PM
Thanks Mili - as another Canuck who DOES live in a rural area with more guns than mosquitoes you are dead on no auto's and a restricted clip of 15 rounds. but who cares the cops let us hide the good stuff - Autos, .50's you name it