Dish 501 harddrive replacement $ error

[adampham]

I keep getting an eroor code 0412 harddrive erro. Does anyone know whta this means and how to fix it. Is it possible to replace the harddrive on my 501?

[Chapster99]

Try these tests...

(Originally posted by Jugglor)
PVR Hard Disk Drive Built-In Procedures

Re-Initialize the Hard Drive (erases all recorded content)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Play->Play->Recall
Note: hold the Recall button a couple seconds for it to activate.

Quick Hard Drive Diagnostic (procedure takes 2 minutes)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->1

Thorough Hard Drive Diagnostic (depending on HD size procedure can take up to 2 hours)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->2

VCO Test (IRD will reset after hitting OK)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->9

[adampham]

HI,


I tried all of the fixes below and the all the tests came back OK but I still get the 0412 harrdrive error. I rewrote the both TSOP's I flashed 1 first than I flashed 2 in that order and still I couldn't get it to work. Can anyone help? D















Try these tests...

(Originally posted by Jugglor)
PVR Hard Disk Drive Built-In Procedures

Re-Initialize the Hard Drive (erases all recorded content)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Play->Play->Recall
Note: hold the Recall button a couple seconds for it to activate.

Quick Hard Drive Diagnostic (procedure takes 2 minutes)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->1

Thorough Hard Drive Diagnostic (depending on HD size procedure can take up to 2 hours)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->2

VCO Test (IRD will reset after hitting OK)
With your remote, do the following sequence quickly:
Menu->6->3->Info->Browse->Theme->Pause->9

[sukh77]

Need to program with virgin eeprom.

[ellsmako]

Been through the persieved pain of 501 HD replacement, but actually now its not so bag.
UPGRADE

I used a MAxtor 80 Gig 7200 rpm, liquid bearing drive model 6L080L0

brand new made in Dec 2005,

Used 063 with the rom 102 number for the reciever ( bk and ird # ) and an atmega with and old rom 3 number. with the same ird and bk for 102.

plugged in drive after flash

then let it stream to 304 with the atmega.

then inserted rom 102 and tv with 508 dvr funtions, timers work

[SPARKY_NY]

HI,


I tried all of the fixes below and the all the tests came back OK but I still get the 0412 harrdrive error. I rewrote the both TSOP's I flashed 1 first than I flashed 2 in that order and still I couldn't get it to work. Can anyone help? D

Both tsops get erased, only u7 gets reprogrammed, u6 is left blank to update by itself. As someone else mentioned a virgin eeprom needs to be written also. As I understand it.... updating a 501 to 120 gig needs a P079 flash version, earlier ones (P063) don't recognize the larger hard drives, they didn't exist back in the day when the earlier flash was written.

I did a 501 upgrade to a 120gig seagate just the other day, drove me nuts, kept getting hd errors, did the quick zero, remarry process, still hd errors. In despiration I moved the hd jumper from CS to master and it married right away and the errors went away, all works great.

[ellsmako]

Hey sparky.... What hard drive did you use,... I am makiong a list of new hard drive that work.

[ReneB64]

So guys,
If i flash with p063, change ird# and boxkeys, it should marry? step by step satvia for 50x would be great.....doesnt hurt to ask....

Want to change from Tomico to Satvia, concerned about HD marrying when I change boxkeys....did 3900, all went smooth, but i guess 501 is a bit different

[Dssslave]

sorry to raise this thread from the dead, but I find myself in the position to replace the hard drive in my 501. I am not sure what the current rev is, but I have a copy of the flash at version P084. Will this work when I install the new 80 Gig drive?

Thanks

[skinerd]

sorry to raise this thread from the dead, but I find myself in the position to replace the hard drive in my 501. I am not sure what the current rev is, but I have a copy of the flash at version P084. Will this work when I install the new 80 Gig drive?

Thanks

P084 was not virgin for the 501, so may or may not work, I think I use a P079 for some and P063 for others.

[Dssslave]

thanks Skinerd for the reply. I am just about to give up on this 501. what would be a big help is if you could clear up the meaning of virgin flash. I have made backups of my 501 in the past. I have the two flash files and eeprom files from P084, P223, P304 and P401. Can I make a virgin flash from what I have? I know I can use flashedit to make a virgin eeprom.

some background. I was having trouble with recoreded programs. It got that none of them would play back. I did the drive test and it always failed the read test. I purchased a new Maxtor 6L080L0 80 gig drive to upgrade from the 40 gig thats in it.

Writing to the U7 flash any of the flash files I have along with the virgin eeprom file I created with flashedit has not brought me any success. I just keep getting drive errors 04f4 and 04ee. My build sticker is DCED

I know it has to do with the files I am using, but I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I always thought I was smart enough to do this, but now I am not so sure. I have read 100's of posts and downloaded lots of files, but I am not sure where to start. I don't want to use just any files I find not know what I am doing or if they will work.

If you could clear up some of this for me, I would be very grateful.

[dw8]

what is the largest hard drive we can put in a 501/508 I'd like a lager one for more recording space and can someone direct me to the list of compatable hard drive #' ex 6L080L0

[skinerd]

what is the largest hard drive we can put in a 501/508 I'd like a lager one for more recording space and can someone direct me to the list of compatable hard drive #' ex 6L080L0
The 120 gig models will work.

[skinerd]

If you could clear up some of this for me, I would be very grateful.


Virgin flash is a flash that came on a factory new receiver. You cannot make one, it must have been saved from a new receiver.

A virgin eeprom can be generated, not a virgin flash.

In order to marry the drive, that specific drive model must be named in the flash, or you will get errors.

I do have some virgin flashes at P084, I don't know, but will check to see if there is a DCED in them. However, just to marry the drive, you can use ANY virgin flash, with the drive model listed in it, the receiver wont nescessarlly function, but the drive will marry, then it can be flashed with a correct flash for the receiver.

[skinerd]

What I just stated may not be accurate 100%, a 6L080L0 drive may marry with any virgin flash but you will have errors until the receiver updates........so try that, load the virgin flash, then get video on previews, turn off receiver, let it update, see if errors go away. Or.....after loading a virgin flash, power receiver on, let the drive marry, then power down and flash it up to at least p304, then allow it to update.

6L080L0 does not appear in the flash until P304.

[asajwani]

What is the brand and model number for 120 GB which works with 501?

[Dssslave]

thanks everyone for the answers. one last question. seeing as I am now using the 80 gig drive, which I understand now makes my 501 a 508, should I be looking for a 508 virgin flash or should I stay with 501 flashes.

again, thanks for making this crystal for me.

[Dssslave]

What is the brand and model number for 120 GB which works with 501?
Maxtor 6L120P0 is 7200 RPM
Seagate ST3120025ACE is 7200 RPM

[Workmen]

Pvr 501-510 Virgin P088 Build DCED (http://bellexpress.vu/forum/local_links.php?action=jump&id=211&catid=11)

Workmen's list of drives that will work in 501-508-510 per P367

Model ________ Manufacturer _ Size(GB) _ RPM __ Rev to Marry HD
34098H4 ______ Maxtor _______ 40 _______ 5400 _ any virgin
2F040L0 ______ Maxtor _______ 40 _______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
4K080H4 ______ Maxtor _______ 80 _______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
4R080L0 ______ Maxtor _______ 80 _______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
4R120L0 ______ Maxtor _______ 120 ______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
6K040L0 ______ Maxtor _______ 40 _______ 7200 _ P087 or greater
6L080L0 ______ Maxtor _______ 80 _______ 7200 _ P087 or greater
6L120P0 ______ Maxtor _______ 120 ______ 7200 _ P087 or greater
ST3120025ACE _ Seagate ______ 120 ______ 7200 _ P075 or greater
ST340015ACE __ Seagate ______ 40 _______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
ST340810ACE __ Seagate ______ 40 _______ 5400 _ any virgin
ST340825A ____ Seagate ______ 40 _______ 5400 _ any virgin
ST380012ACE __ Seagate ______ 80 _______ 7200 _ P075 or greater
ST380020ACE __ Seagate ______ 80 _______ 5400 _ P075 or greater
ST3802110ACE _ Seagate ______ 80 _______ 7200 _ P088 or greater
ST3120213ACE _ Seagate ______ 120 ______ 7200 _ P088 or greater
SV1203N ______ SAMSUNG ______ 120 ______ 5400 _ P085 or greater
SP1243N ______ SAMSUNG ______ 120 ______ 7200 _ p0??

[bartman0916]

" 6L080L0 does not appear in the flash until P304"

Skinerd, I've always wondered what has to appear in the flash to make a Hard Disk work with the particular receiver ?

I always thought it would be fun to try to edit one to accept a bigger hard disk than the 120- but I dont believe its possible.

[skinerd]

" 6L080L0 does not appear in the flash until P304"

Skinerd, I've always wondered what has to appear in the flash to make a Hard Disk work with the particular receiver ?

I always thought it would be fun to try to edit one to accept a bigger hard disk than the 120- but I dont believe its possible.


Unless the drive is listed in the flash, it will show errors, and not function.

[skinerd]

thanks everyone for the answers. one last question. seeing as I am now using the 80 gig drive, which I understand now makes my 501 a 508, should I be looking for a 508 virgin flash or should I stay with 501 flashes.

again, thanks for making this crystal for me.

It dont matter......as long as the build config is compatible, any 501/508/510 PVR flash will work fine.

Some use SKs and some dont, so figure out what you want to do or you will not get it working.

[Dssslave]

you are right, I can't seem to figure this out. I downloaded a virgin flash at P063, loaded it in Flashedit and changed the IRD#, Box Keys and Build to DCED and saved it. I then used the virgin eeprom option and created the eeprom file.

I then used jKeys to erase both flashes and then wrote the file I created to Flash2. I then wrote the eeprom file to the eeprom. I then connected it to the dish and TV and plugged it in. All I got was a lit green power led and red recording led for almost an hour. Figured something was wrong.

I looked at workmans drive list and saw that the drive I am using needs P087 or higher. I found a virgin P088 and did the same thing to make the files. Now the receiver come up and I can get to the menu, but no DVR functions or options in the menu. Also can't get a drive test to work either, so I guess the drive is still not married yet.

Is it possible with all that I have put this IRD through that the drive is now messed up and needs to be zeroed out? I was sold to me as new and came in the sealed anti-static bag. Sorry for all the trouble, but this one has me.

[skinerd]

you are right, I can't seem to figure this out. I downloaded a virgin flash at P063, loaded it in Flashedit and changed the IRD#, Box Keys and Build to DCED and saved it. I then used the virgin eeprom option and created the eeprom file.

I then used jKeys to erase both flashes and then wrote the file I created to Flash2. I then wrote the eeprom file to the eeprom. I then connected it to the dish and TV and plugged it in. All I got was a lit green power led and red recording led for almost an hour. Figured something was wrong.

I looked at workmans drive list and saw that the drive I am using needs P087 or higher. I found a virgin P088 and did the same thing to make the files. Now the receiver come up and I can get to the menu, but no DVR functions or options in the menu. Also can't get a drive test to work either, so I guess the drive is still not married yet.

Is it possible with all that I have put this IRD through that the drive is now messed up and needs to be zeroed out? I was sold to me as new and came in the sealed anti-static bag. Sorry for all the trouble, but this one has me.


Virgin is just for marrying, PVR won't function until receiver updates.

[Dssslave]

yes, that I understand. Is there something I can look for that will tell me the drive has married? The listen for drive access every 5 sec does not work with this drive as it is so quiet.

[Dssslave]

any help would be great. I can't beleive this is that hard. Thanks

[skinerd]

let it update, or flash it up, then if no errors, it's married.

[Dssslave]

I keep getting the error that the receiver has not been authorised. I am guessing that means the drive is not married.

The process is to simple for me to have all this trouble. I am using the virgin flash at P088. I open it in Flashedit and change the IRD# and Boxkeys, I check fix CRC and them do a save as. Then I click on the script to make a virgin eeprom and enter the build of DCED, just whats on the sticker inside the receiver.

Then I use jKeys to erase both flashes, flash U7 with the bin file I created, then program the eeprom with its file. I then power everythimng off, connect the freshly erased 80 gig drive and then power everything back on. All I get on the screen of the TV is the sys info screen. I give it at least 15 minutes, then I power it off and back on and it again askes for me to insert my card, I do and it goes to the not authorised screen again.

I can't figure out what I am doing wrong.

[Workmen]

Your using 510 specific info with a 501, apply this script to u7 using flashedit:

501-508 Ird Specific Info]
set(0x3fffac, 0x00D50606)
set(0x3fffb0, 0x8F000100130001030400000202010000)

[Dssslave]

thanks for this. I am trying it and will let you know how it goes.

[Dssslave]

one question, is the 129 not authorised message a result of the drive not marrying. After writing the virgin flash and eeprom to the receiver, I plugged in the freshly erased 80 gig drive. I power it on for 20 minutes. Then I connected it to the stream and insert the card. I leave it on for several hours. I find the its updated to p406 but I still have this error. any thoughts on this problem.

[Workmen]

Correct card setup!

[skinerd]

one question, is the 129 not authorised message a result of the drive not marrying. After writing the virgin flash and eeprom to the receiver, I plugged in the freshly erased 80 gig drive. I power it on for 20 minutes. Then I connected it to the stream and insert the card. I leave it on for several hours. I find the its updated to p406 but I still have this error. any thoughts on this problem.

P406.......wow wonder what improvements they made....was 403 a day or so ago.

Listen to Workmen above........not uuthorized is a card set up error.

[Dssslave]

sorry, its P403. So many numbers and so little memory. I put the old drive back in and I am getting the same message. I am doing this with the same card and old drive that has work for years without issue. Why now am I getting this message?

[Dssslave]

Correct card setup!
help me understand how it can be a card issue when everything worked great, except for the playback of recorded programs, before I started this project of replacing the drive. Now, no matter what I do, I get the error 129 receiver not yet authorized.

[skinerd]

Maybe the card is expired??? Check the dates or redo the tiers and see.

[Dssslave]

not a tier issue. for the drive to marry, does the card need to be in the receiver and the receiver be connected to the Sat cable?

[skinerd]

not a tier issue. for the drive to marry, does the card need to be in the receiver and the receiver be connected to the Sat cable?

no, the drive will marry upon 1st power up, card, or no card, sat cable or no sat cable.

[Dssslave]

Success :D

not exactly sure why, but I believe it had something to do with the flash files I was using. I just started using different files until things started to change. The program wiem36 was also a big help cleaning the eeprom file.

Thanks to you and workmen for hanging in there with me and answering all my questions.