Silver Bullet

[bones01]

anyone get a e-mail from SILVER BULLET4U ? and if so, does anyone no anything about it. mostly, LIKE does it work?????? sorry about the question Mili.

[Rebel]

Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?




From: SilverBullet4u
Date: 03/01/04 16:21:04
To:
Subject: Free To Air Satellite - no more programming your cards!

Here are some real DSS facts you should be aware of.
DTV will terminate the P3/HU stream within 45 days.
Yes it is true and confirmed by DTV themselves, thats the target!
Card swaps for the new P4/P5/D1 access card have been stepped up considerably in the last week, and public announcements from the head brass at DTV have confirmed this is true. This is no longer a rumour anymore.
The all illusive P4/P5/D1 hack … Is it or isn't it for real?
All reports from peeps in the "know" say it is not out there to be had. There are lots of rumours, but all reports indicate that it is just a rumour. It will not just be Extreme P4 for everyone to use for some time.

- Dish net has been hitting "testers" hard as well.

Dish net has sent EMM's on Thursday Feb 26/04 that have looped most, if not all Rom 2/3/10 dishcards. Atmega's have been consistently knocked down on a weekly basis over the last 6-8 months as well.

What's this mean for all testers??

With the HU/P3 stream coming to a quick death, and no public P4/P5/D1 hack in sight, lots of testers are going to be left watching a blank TV screen...

Dish net testers with Rom 2/3/10 cards has become a losing battle as well.

We have the alternative...

The "Silver Bullet" receiver is a LEGAL Free-to-Air receiver which when connected to your DISH Network or NagraVision satellite opens all the channels wide open.

Finally, a complete solution that works without an access card.

Imagine, up to 1200+ stations, no programming cards, no hashing and no blacklisting.

All you need is to enter public keys into the Silver Bullet with your remote to open all channels. WIDE open in DISH Network or any NagraVision system.

These keys rotate every few months and we will post them on our (enter site url here) site within a hour of changing.

Updating keys takes less than 1 minute. Yes it is that easy !!

SILVER BULLET FTA RECEIVER - FEATURES

The Silver Bullet does not need any Jtag's, AVRs, Atmegas, ROM X Cards, ISO Programmers, and TSOP locks, etc, etc.

There is no need for any script or software support as there is nothing to program, everything you need is in the receiver already.

To unlock DISH Network or NagraVision just enter the current keys with your remote, and all channels are there, ready to watch.

With the current keys, you can receive all channels wide open, that's right , WIDE OPEN !!

No card needed - EVER!

Sound to good to be true, this reciever is the real deal !!!
Check them out at: http://www.silverbullet4u.com
Don’t be left in the dark, stay ahead of the game and get a Silver Bullet…

[bones01]

that's what i got, but the question is, is any of it ture?

[dRoPoUT]

Yep, it's true.
It's a Fortecstar Lifetime receiver using freeware software.
Opens all the D*sh channels. I believe production of this
model has now ended so if you're looking to get one at a
good price better get going. The Ultra Lifetime with blind
search is replacing it. It may, but probably won't take the
freeware software allowing this...but "maybe" soon.

[bones01]

and dropout, will it work with directv?

[skinerd]

No it will not work with DTV. DTV system is a different type of signal.

Is anyone actuallly using this system that will verify all claims made by the seller?

[borg1]

This is just a Blackbird in drag, and they were allegedly taken out in an ECM Friday.

[HotRodTodd]

Yes they work as advertised. No the ecm didnt take them out. But read that email very carefully. It clearly states send a blank money order. Now i dont think that would be real smart. If you want to send a blank m.o., send it to me. J/K LOL. If you look on ebay for the foretec recievers they are supposedly the same and are selling for half the price. 160-170 us. Good luck and buyer beware.

[dRoPoUT]

Is anyone actuallly using this system that will verify all claims made by the seller?
Right, not for D4ve TV. Unless you want BEV right now I wouldn't get a Blackbird. I'd go with a $169 Fortec Lifetime and install the al7bar freeware software myself. These things are easy to set up once you get a little "how to." A google search for the Al7bar Forum will get you where the goodies are.
These are nice little receivers, although cheaply made, and will get you all the D*shN*t you want. These are great but you don't need to spend $300 for one. I trust al7bar and his team a lot more than the Blackbird people.

What they're saying:
http://www.broadcastermagazine.com/article.asp?id=27765

Boy, that dvbnews site is full of BS.

[hj96]

from what i've heard the black blackbird get's bev aswell as dishnet, but the silver blackbird only gets dishnet :)

[dRoPoUT]

That's right. The Silver Bird, Silver Bullet, et. al. is just a "legal" Fortecstar Lifetime
receiver flashed with al7bar. The Blackbird is completely different and doesn't use
al7bar software. It uses some unknown, unreleased software and gets BEV. But BEV
is in the works for the Fortec receivers. A short time ago the Fortec receivers would
have blackouts but the latest freeware al7bar fixed that. DN key Autoroll is also being
worked on for DN on the Fortecs. Autoroll works for Polsat but not the Echos.

[dRoPoUT]

This is just a Blackbird in drag, and they were allegedly taken out in an ECM Friday.
BB being taken out by ECM's was just BS.
dvbnews seems to be run by idiots.
People were using Fortecs w/al7bar before *SS CAD ever started advertising
the BB. Shipment for them was delayed and the guy finally found out about
the Fortecs/al7bar, checked them out, and shipped them out as BB's instead.
First the Fortecs were Black Birds, then Silver Birds, now Silver Bullets. Something may be in drag but it's not Fortec.

[hj96]

dropout: do you happen to know if a sw4/4 will work between dish and bb reciver or not?

[Chief]

Read this article. Sounds like these receivers are the real deal, but as with all such rhetoric, a healthy dose of skepticism is a good idea. One has no way of knowing exactly who's behind the article.
I can see a golden opportunity for scammers...so if you've got the balls to order one, make damn sure you know who you're dealing with, and use no traceable payment method....

EXCLUSIVE: 'Blackbird' box poses serious theft threat

3/1/2004

Companies in this story
Bell Expressvu Inc.


Articles in related categories
Theft
Bell ExpressVu



TORONTO - A new, card-free, theft-enabling satellite set top box which allows users free access to all Dish Network and Bell ExpressVu programming has hit the black market within the past 10 weeks or so - and this one is apparently unaffected by satellite company electronic counter measures (ECMs).

The box, available for sale on ebay and underground web retailers, is called Blackbird. The sites are billing the box as a legal, free-to-air receiver that just happens to allow access to all Dish Network programming. And, since ExpressVu's technology is identical, the box lets users steal from the Canadian DTH company as well.

Blackbird has caused such a scare in the States that when speaking to delegates at a Cablelabs conference last week, Comcast president Brian Roberts mentioned the box by name and urged Dish Network to take immediate, drastic action, according to those in attendance.

The box comes with no conditional access card and, say those who have seen it, can not be disabled by satellite company ECMs. It does not work with DirecTV or Star Choice.

"No more JTAGs, AVRs, Atmegas, ROM X Cards, ISO Programmers, and TSOP locks," says one web site, telling thieves they no longer have to worry about buying hacked cards, readers, loaders or anything else.

The Blackbird comes with a four-way connector, meaning that up to four dishes could be tied into the box. With seven Dish Network and ExpressVu satellites to choose from, depending on which of the birds the dishes are pointed at, such a thief could get in the neighborhood of 1,200 channels on one television through this box.

"You can connect up to 4 different LNBs to a 4-way switch (included) and one output to the receiver. Blackbird will understand each individual LNB signal, and download all the channels for that satellite. For instance, if one LNB were pointing as Dish Network, you would set up LNB 1 to download all 300 DishNet stations (PPV, sports, everything). This would populate channels 1-300 on the system," says one web site.

"If LNB 2 were pointing at another satellite company, you would then be able to set up LNB 2 to download channels 301-600. This can continue for up to 4 different satellite signals. Potentially, with enough dishes, you could flip from channels 1-1200, without missing any stations!! Although you cannot get DirecTV, you can use your existing DirecTV dish on your house, and the LNB, as long as you properly re-point the dish to another satellite, such as Dish Network."

The site, of course, also claims that all of this is, ahem, perfectly legal.

It's selling in the US$370 range.

Bell ExpressVu president Tim McGee told www.cablecastermagazine.com on Friday that his company became aware of Blackbird in December and is working on how it can combat it.

He downplayed its potential effect on the company. "It's just another pirated device that can be used to steal," he said. "We're well ahead of the curve in terms of our knowledge of it. It's a niche product"

McGee didn't say for sure whether or not the company's ECMs work to disable the box but several technical contacts in the cable industry with knowledge of Blackbird or who have seen it work, say current ECMs, which target hacked plastic cards inside set top receivers do not affect Blackbird.

"The best way at this point to fight it is to choke off any avenue of distribution and sale of this," added McGee. "That's the main thrust at this stage."

"It's not affected by ECMs," confirmed one cable executive who has seen the Blackbird work.

Industry Canada and Telesat recently conducted a test of the box in Ottawa and found that it appears pretty bullet-proof and is a serious threat to satellite signal security. Blackbird is a name which is beginning to reverberate throughout the TV distribution industry which is understandably spooked by the product.

It is another reason behind the redoubling of efforts to get Bill C-2 passed, which will dramatically toughen measures against satellite signal thieves.

Cable sources told www.cablecastermagazine.com that the box, when coming over the border, may operate as a free-to-air receiver, making it a "legal" at most points in the distribution chain. It is obviously altered once in the country, making it able to receive all digital ExpressVu and EchoStar signals.

Those sources also say the technology originated in Israel - which right now is a hotbed of emerging encryption technologies. ExpressVu says the hardware appears to be made in Taiwan.

Watch for more on this device as the story develops when www.cablecastermagazine.com takes a first-hand look at Blackbird next week.

[dRoPoUT]

Read this article. Sounds like these receivers are the real deal, but as with all such rhetoric, a healthy dose of skepticism is a good idea. One has no way of knowing exactly who's behind the article.
I can see a golden opportunity for scammers...so if you've got the balls to order one, make damn sure you know who you're dealing with, and use no traceable payment method....
I think the "Scammers" are the ones selling the Fortecs as "Silver Birds" and
"Silver Bullets," etc. Why pay 2 or 3 times the price and maybe get involved
with piracy issues when you can still purchase a "Legal" Fortecstar Lifetime receiver easily? All you then need to do is install the freeware and set it up? Any help needed can be found on google by doing an al7bar forum search. Heck, the instructions have even been uploaded here, in the Files Section, on the D*sh side of the site. With the P 3 fixing to do the P 4 thing,
this is a good time for it.

[sdeens]

there is no valid reason to purchase this device...at least not yet!

1. It is not 100% foolproof despite what that article says...you better belive that Charlie and BEV will step up ECM's if necessary to combat it...anyhing made by man can be countered..the question then becomes if they find a way to stop or freeze the video how does one re-flash its software? what methods does it support for moving forward against future ECM's which are sure to occur?

2. This is nothing more than another pirate device..similar in concept to a more robust Atmega with more powerful anti-ecm capabilities..but it will be targeted...especially if its a good as advertised.

3. it does not roll public keys! That means if necessary Dish and BEV will rotate the public key 2-3 times daily. When the AVR/Atmega boards started to get popular, Charlie started changing the public key twice/daily..then they developed auto-roll chips to piggyback on the AVR's..so Charlie simply speeded up the stream to combat them..the atmega then was released but the point is the cat and mouse game continued and the AVR/Atmega worked but it required maintence. The rolling of public keys belive me is a great advantage and if it does not roll public keys you will hate this device, because you will need to hook it up to the internet and install them again..You better belive that Dish and BEV will rotate them every day if necessary to combat this device if its as strong as advertised.

4. there are plenty of alternatives to test Dish/Bev: rom2,3,10,11 and AVR/Atmega and emulation..so until they start a card swap these streams will remain intact and are free. Besides, for all we know when the yellow cards (rom101) are all that are left this device may not decrypt that stream packet..the ASIC inside the blue rom2,3 and 10'sa was long ago hacked and this devise is probably using that same method to decrypt the older stream..so if the card swap starts then this device will be unable to decode..so why use it? By then a public hack should be available anyway for the yellow rom101's...and if I am worng then what good is it anyway since the stream for rom2,3 and 10's is deactivated. I am no certain the streams packest for blue roim cards is the same as the yellow rom cards.. i suspect it is the same difference as HU versus P4 packets..one stream but different authorization packets.

5. this device may be more robust (and that's a big maybe BTW) against current ECM technology but you better belive that something like this will be public enemy #1 in Charlie's eyes and all it will do is ruin things for the overall testing community. why? becasue if it is so robust then Charlie will have no choice but the accelerate the replacement of blue rom2,3,10 and 11 cards in favor of the yellow rom101 cards..we don't; want a fool proof solution..we want a solution that works but requires routine maintence..this keeps Charlie happy and allows serious testers to FEEL THE JOY :-) If you make it too fool proof you force Charlie's hand to do more devasting ECM's which I am positive exist but have not been used for fear of collateral damage to existing customer base..this device may force his hand to be more cavalier and aggresive against piracy..that is not good in the long run.

I personally do not like this device and hope they can stop its introduction before its gets too popular..the best hacking occurs when Charlie sends down TSOP ecms'..he lets Nagra flex their muscles against the cards occasionally (i/e the Spacetwister ECM last week) ..in the end we will have good TV for about 350 out of 365 days using public fixes..and maybe need to re-program our cards and TSOP''s 9 or 10 times per year. I call that a fair compromise that keeps the game moving forward in a positive manner.

This device will only make things worse for us, by forcing Charlie to accelerate a potential card swap and augment his methods for changing the public keys and stepping up with more powerfull ECM tactics.

BTW it makes sense that it is made in Taiwan..alot of really cheap electronics that are well made are comming out of there.

I have been doing this hobby for well over 7 years and I have seen them come and go, call it experince, call it wisdom, call it what you want..but never underestimate the resolve and power of a billion dollar satellite provider..the worst thing for the communtiy is a fool proof device..it will be devistating for the existing testing methods (rom2,3 and 10's) and it will definately force their signal integrity departments to mobilize and combat it, even if it means throwing the baby out with the bath water..so to speak.

just IMHO

[JACK31CA]

anyone get a e-mail from SILVER BULLET4U ? and if so, does anyone no anything about it. mostly, LIKE does it work?????? sorry about the question Mili.
can any one tell what fta cards and fta receivers get bev and dish like, win tv nexus-s and twinhan ,also fortec and the rest i dont the other ones, any info is appreciated

[dRoPoUT]

there is no valid reason to purchase this device...at least not yet!
These are much more popular in the European countries than in the West.
Ch4rlie will do what Ch4rlie will do. I'm not so sure this won't be for the better
and allow more free tv stations to use this media. If production of the Basic Lifetime has ended and IF the new Ultra Lifetime can't be adapted for DN then the problem is solved with these units. I bought mine for $130 before
word reached the masses...and one DiSEqC switch. CHEAPO TV! I got one, I like it a lot, and I'm keeping it. Kill it if you can. Ch4rlie can bite the world's
*ss if he wants to.

[dRoPoUT]

This is posted at the BB site:
Great News for SilverBird Users

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well....it seems that the manufacturer of the Silverbird reciever is discontinuing production of the model. They are replacing it with a new reciever that cannot be modified at this time. There are almost 0 units left in North America for distribution. Maybe a few sites have a few units to sell, remaining in their stock, but the stock will deplete, and there will be no more Silverbirds left.

Why is this good? Demand. If there are no more units, everyone will want it. The value will increase. We cannot sell them anymore, because there simply are no more units available. Be careful of dealers promising the unit. If they claim "backorder", rest assured that they will never be able to fulfill these orders.

Will we still support the unit? OF COURSE. Non-production has nothing to do with supporting the unit.

Hold on to your units. They are a great asset to have at this point.

So: No sweat Ch4rlie. Problem solved! No need to think about those Lifetime
receivers anymore. They're off the market very soon. :)

[interboot]

Yes they work as advertised. No the ecm didnt take them out. But read that email very carefully. It clearly states send a blank money order. Now i dont think that would be real smart. If you want to send a blank m.o., send it to me. J/K LOL. If you look on ebay for the foretec recievers they are supposedly the same and are selling for half the price. 160-170 us. Good luck and buyer beware.

anytime when ask to send a blank money order. something is wrong there. i 've onlky bought stuffs from places who accept visa/mastercard. the fact that it ask you to send money where there is no way to retrieve or go after it. my common sense just tells me it is bogus, scam!

[ilikepiehole]

will the fortec lifetime work with the dishpro LNB's ??

[cartof]

gzilla did you scan the spotbeam chanels to ?

[cartof]

ggzilla u lie or joking ultra is not hacked

[Dr.Doom]

They're trying to substitute the Ultra receiver in place of the Lifetime model.

[artm]

anyone get a e-mail from SILVER BULLET4U ? and if so, does anyone no anything about it. mostly, LIKE does it work?????? sorry about the question Mili.
Have one. Works Great on Dishnet, not on BEV yet. Get everything. It is actually a fortec star (Silver Bullet is the programed one). more $. Down load and program it yourself. will save +$200.00