OKAY no P4 hack, but will we ever be able to wipe PPV's?

[mauryanthony]

Anyone that has a educated guess on this one please reply.

I could care less about a hack, but wiping PPV's would be what most all of of care about. Movies, sports packages, porn, all of this is on PPV.

Maybe no one knows for sure right now, but I have seen a few files claiming to be able to change settings and possibly wipe PPV's.

Any legit thought?



You to have the ability to write to the card first.

[Scoobie16]

Anyone that has a educated guess on this one please reply.

I could care less about a hack, but wiping PPV's would be what most all of of care about. Movies, sports packages, porn, all of this is on PPV.

Maybe no one knows for sure right now, but I have seen a few files claiming to be able to change settings and possibly wipe PPV's.

Any legit thought?

Being able to wipe PPV would require access to the card. In the form of a hack in the case of the H card or in the form of a glitch in the case of the HU/P3 card.

After doing some reading it does not look as though glitching will be the case for the P4/P5 card.

Some claim to have a hack. This seems to consist of a subscription that is sub'd then cancelled. leaving the card with the required tiers. I would expect that like an activation this type of "fix" will loose the tiers, the PPV will fill up and then the card will need to have the subscription redone (this seems to make sense from what I have been reading)

The access required to wipe PPV would result in other card modifications.
I would not expect that an individual modification such as PPV wipe would emerg with out including the other card modification functions we have grown to enjoy.

Sit tight and wish, dream, hope pray what ever you need to do until something legit is released as a public fix. until then read the forums and educate yourself as new information is made available. Then when/ if the times comes you will be ready.

Patience is the only way to deal with this setback.

Have fun testing

[Bustamove]

what do you mean no hack? Mine has worked for 7 days now and going strong. All channels wide open and all ppv's as well. That includes 5 channels of porn as well.

Well if thats the case...why not explain your secret, for getting all the channels and how you came to this hack?? and a little proof as well would go a long way in saying your getting everthing...wide open, and everyone else is some kind of fool and can't solve the P4. Im not saying your not getting everything wide open...but if you are, how about leaking your big secret to a mod to test and report on as well??? OJ never committed murder you know? There was never enough proof?
So until you prove otherwise...its all bullshit to me...

[_bo98]

BS--you are the only person claiming to have P4 up running in 3M. Last week you said it was Activation.

Clearly, you haven't a clue, and for the record--if you really do have a hack--why are you posting in here telling us how you have it? If you really had it, you'd be watching TV, not looking for tips on how to get 'free-tv'

[4x4]

who needs dave's porn? i can jackoff for hours, just fantasizing about MastrabatorX's miracle 3m.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[SportingFan9]

you dont necessarily need a wide-open eeprom to wipe ppv, if you can figure out dave's Wipe commands that he sends when your ird phones home.



who needs dave's porn? i can jackoff for hours, just fantasizing about MastrabatorX's miracle 3m.

That was just classic! :D

[4x4]

MastrabatorX's is funnier ! :p

[HotRodTodd]

Oh please dont offend MastrabatorX, he might get angry and not come back to regail us with his tales of the amazing hack that only he is using. LMAO !

[Bustamove]

no secret at all. Just downloaded the script, a new flash from my supplier and programmed the card very similar to how i've been doing it for 2 plus years with the H and HU cards.

If I had any clue what so ever on how this shit works then I would share every bit of info with you all. However I know pretty much nothing other than to follow the instructions they post in their members section and use the files they provide.

Ok...what did you flash and with what?__________And what is the name of the script?__________and what did you use to execute the script?__________and where did you dLoad this secret?_________ If your not willing to share this secret then explain why?_________ What do you mean by programmed very similar to before....what did you do differant?__________

PS> If you can't answer the questions....then take your script or your shit for that matter on over to the bullshit section....or share it with the mods in here to test. If there is no reason for you to lie....than answer up or SHUT UP !!!!

[HotRodTodd]

GenurbatorX, MastrabatorX, Oh please more, more, more. LMAO!

[jafar]

I don't understand if this is so secretive. I don't understand why you're bragging about having this fix. My father always told me "bulls--- walks and money talks". I myself ddon't know of any sight that has a fix. I have'nt been a member of this sight very long, but it's outlasting every other sight i've been on. I feel like the rest either shut up or putup. Just my 2 cents. Jafar

[4x4]

I heard enough , moved to the Bullshit forum !

[Chief]

After repeated warnings, I see the generator man is still bringing up this subject - in the serious discussions area of the forum.
Generator, your rhetoric is riddled with nonsense. Whatever it is you're writing on your card, you wouldn't be able to do so and "not have a clue whatsoever of how this shit works".
I take offense to your comment that our moderators may not be able to be trusted. Well, you can trust me on this, young fella...
You either divulge what you do know about this so called hack of yours...either in public, or in private to one of the staff..or STFU about it. I'm tired of the game and the teasing.
If I catch you on here talking this goofiness one more time, you will find yourself back at this top-secret site that you speak so fondly of.
The good folks here at this forum are tired of being taken for fools. We value all members and sensible talk...but this five-star lunacy has gone on way too long.
I mean it, Generator - shut the fuck up about this... :mad:

[4x4]

Time to say good by now GeneratorX !

[jafar]

Generatorx, My father also told me "it takes a lifetime to build a reputation, and one mistake or lie to destroy it. This is a great sight and i feel it will be here for a long time. Thanks to all the mod's. Jafar

[Bustamove]

lmao you guys are too funny. Just can't stand the fact that someone else might actually have a working p4. Cheif has proven my point about some of the mod's around here. Not only do they allow flaming, they are some of the worst flamers on board lmfao.

Can't wait for the Soprano's and Deadwood tonight. P4 still up and running like a dream ;)

GeneratX = THE P4 GOD...The one, the only, almighty with the working P4 hack...the only person I know who with binoculars is going to sit outside and watch the Soprano's from his deck chair. He has his dish connected to his ass
and he unscrambles the signal with his brain...which is just a couple inches from
the connection. Once the signal passes through all his shit...

[TheSlider]

I know how is P4 is working.... the same way mine is...

He's on someone else's account!

I still don't see any evidence of your "p4 hack" dude...

Keep talking and we'll keep flaming you until you come out with some proof!

TS

[Bustamove]

No reason for me to come up with any proof. I'm just posting this on different forums to let people know that it is possible to get a wide open script on the P4. Just spreading the good news. Don't worry, these guys will sell their info pretty quick here. Probably just waiting awhile to drive the price up higher. Just lucky i'm one of their members ;)

Forget about letting people know....we don't want to know anymore of your crap.
Do us all a favour...STAY AWAY ! You have no TV, and I care less about what you
say you have...just plain BS. If you really did have something that works, you would be able to proove it...not by sending out the fix itself, but by backing your claims with fact. We are not here asking for your fix...just any proof that you have something...If you have no way of proof, then any joe could say what your saying...But just based on your Posts...YOUR FULL OF SHIT, know nothing about the P4 or even know anything about programing. To say you have a P4 that you programmed with a fix...at least explain how you programmed it. You can't even do that much!!! Your just a troll here. So get yourself a life...and take your crap to another place.

[Budreaux]

No reason for me to come up with any proof. I'm just posting this on different forums to let people know that it is possible to get a wide open script on the P4. Just spreading the good news. Don't worry, these guys will sell their info pretty quick here. Probably just waiting awhile to drive the price up higher. Just lucky i'm one of their members ;)

Ok, I sat back long enuff without giving any input.

GenX., here is the deall....."IF" you have a working P4 3M, man, that's wonderful, it only m eans that it will in time filter it's way thruought the community. However, your claim of posting this to let the others KNOW it is on the way, well, it's just be way overdone. If ya wanna let them KNOW, pm one of them privately and give them the site address and let them figure it out for themselves. I'm sure the site will begin taking on new members with such a fine product. I'm not interested in hearing "I don;t know how it was done, all I do is write the files". You also say that " I have no idea how to do all this testing other than putting the card in my loader and writing the files.". Lets think about that and the credibility you are building for yourself.

First, anyone who knows just a little bout this hobby knows that REFLASHIBG your loader isn't basic. Ssure it's easy to do, but it's not something the beginner, know nothing tester will attempt. If you are following instructions and you have successfully reflashed, then you have learned a new ability. Therefore, you do not fall into the "Know nothing other than writing files to the card". Your ability to prepare your loader for the write process to the P$ proves that.

So, with all that said, why are you coming in here, acting as if you know nothing of the skills required for the hobby and telling everyone "I have it, You will too, soon"? There is only 2 possible reasons. 1) You feel great knowing that the P4 is cracked and your fellow testers will soon enjoy the love....2) You are here to create havic and gain attention. I for one don;t buy into reason #1, why?, because of your obvious pleasure in getting under some of the peoples skin here. I do buy into #2, why?, because in this hobby, if anyone finds such a find, they can;t wait to share it with others for either credibility, or praises from his fellow testers. I've been done this road with what appeared to be a revived Hcard some several months back, I was unable to get any more info from it and I had alot of heated discussions over it...but yaknow what, it was all my fault because I posted before I had everyting I needed to PROVE it. I did have many members PM me in private that wanted to help and I appreciate all of them for that support. You are not attempting to sooth anyone here, you are h owever trying and in some cases, succeeding in irritating many members.

You last flame aimed towards Chief, well, let me say this..Chief needs noone standing up for him trust me, but I will anyways......the man has proven to me over and over to be an honest loyal frined of this community and quite frankly, to me.....so I strongly suggest you do 1 of 2 things.

1) No, I;m not sking for your P4 info.......I am asking that sit b ack and read if ya like, w/o comments to your P4 hack......trust me, telling everyne yu have it and they will soon is not soothing anyone here.

2) Just leave...your job here is done, you have built a rather bad reputation already and it will take you a looong time to rebuild anything remotely similar to a good rep here now. I guess you could register under a new name, it isn;t as if that hasn;t ever happened before.......

That is all I have to say on this subject..I strongly suggest you read my post and take it for it;'s face value. That is all...

Budreaux

[Chief]

Thanks, Buddy, for your support. Anyone on this forum that know me, my co-mods and Mili - are aware that we allow some flexibility and latitude in regards to posts...we'd prefer not to stifle dreams and ideas, no matter how naive they may seem to us. If a member took the time to thoughtfully speak his/her ideas, then we owe it to that member to have a voice.

Even a minor amount of nonsense is tolerated - we're a diverse bunch, and that's to be expected.

As for premeditated, 24/7 needling, taunting and heckling - that's a different animal, best kept in your head, and not on this forum.

Sayonara, GeneratorX... ;)

[HotRodTodd]

Thanks for taking out the trash Chief. It was getting a bit ripe in here, LOL.

[Sheepdog]

Has anybody ever looked into spoofing an IRD into thinking that it called Dave and uploaded the PPV debits? If I understand correctly, when you buy a ppv it writes the data to the card. At some point the IRD calls dave and gives him the info. The PPV costs are then cleared from the card (although if I remember correctly, you can still view the history).

So if somebody were to write an application the would monitor the phone line when the IRD calls dave, you might be able to figure out the protocols and then setup your computer to act as dave's server. This way the IRD gets to write to the card and we don't have to worry about it.

Now the commo might be encrypted but you never know. This type of back door may have been overlooked.

Just a thought.

[Sheepdog]

OK, so I'm not as original as I thought. I found this active thread in another mili forum.
http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/showthread.php?p=91896#post91896

[HotRodTodd]

Ex? I never said i was retired. LOL

[TheSlider]

Many thanks Chief!

I never intended to start a flame war, but I grew tired of reading his bullshit. Thanks for opening the window to let the little bastard out!

Anyway, I finally broke down and used a little "social engineering" with my girlfriend's dad's DAVE platinum account and activated an old Hughes E1 I had lying around. I called, said I was the account holder and I wanted to add an extra box to the "auto shop",then ordered and paid for an access card, had it shipped to me via Fedex next day, then used the mailer to activate it. DAVE is so gullible!

TS

*Maybe after I help him build his computer I'll mention he has an extra box on his account, but if I didn't tell him I seriously doubt he'll ever notice!

[Chief]

Actually, one of my compadres opened the door for this guy - but I will admit I participated in the shoving... :p

It's nothing to be proud of, of course. I'd much rather see everyone shoot straight and get along. No one derives pleasure for threatening a member - unfortunately it's part of the job every now and then. There ain't no heroism in it, for sure...

Got you a plat subscription for 5 bucks a month, eh? I like the way you think, Slider :D