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06-07-2004, 07:48 PM

FreeTVAddict
06-07-2004, 07:56 PM
Was it working to begin with?

Did you do a VID mod? Digital lock? Eeprom lock?

Did you buy the JTAG w/pogo pins or did you build your own? If you built your own, how is it connected to your receiver?

We need more background info about the receiver.

Qrash
06-07-2004, 08:46 PM
Masta_mind:

Sent you a PM ... Qrash

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skinerd
06-07-2004, 11:14 PM
Masta_mind:

Sent you a PM ... Qrash

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PM???? Lets keep thisd open for all to read, unless you are PMing links to other sites.
But post what was tried and what worked and what didn't.

Qrash
06-08-2004, 02:38 AM
PM???? Lets keep thisd open for all to read, unless you are PMing links to other sites.
But post what was tried and what worked and what didn't.
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I've been working on numerous DP301.013's and have both garnered and posted solutions and recommendations to problems. There are some subtleties to the DP301.013 which I have found that seem to be more due to serendipity versus basic logic, but one way or the other, I have managed to fix every unit coming my way except those which have one or more components truly fried.

While fairly new here, I am a long-standing tester and mod for several private venues. I simply counseled Masta_mind (in my PM) to proceed with care, and if he got into water too deep, that on a limited (initial) basis I would volunteer to evaluate problem units on a no-charge basis for forum members. I hope this does not violate the principles of this forum ... Qrash

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FreeTVAddict
06-10-2004, 11:12 PM
In my experience, it all boils down to not following instructions correctly. When a newbie runs into a problem, they compound it by doing everything they thought they'd read instead of going over the steps and double-checking.

skinerd
06-10-2004, 11:53 PM
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I've been working on numerous DP301.013's and have both garnered and posted solutions and recommendations to problems. There are some subtleties to the DP301.013 which I have found that seem to be more due to serendipity versus basic logic, but one way or the other, I have managed to fix every unit coming my way except those which have one or more components truly fried.

While fairly new here, I am a long-standing tester and mod for several private venues. I simply counseled Masta_mind (in my PM) to proceed with care, and if he got into water too deep, that on a limited (initial) basis I would volunteer to evaluate problem units on a no-charge basis for forum members. I hope this does not violate the principles of this forum ... Qrash

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That's cool, I just like to see problems and solutions posted for all to read.

Communicating as you say you did is one thing that PMs are good for.

06-11-2004, 05:49 PM

skinerd
06-11-2004, 07:32 PM
I have followed instructions step by step

Yes The reciever used to turn on and work

I put a vid mod on it and i also jtag it

i can read info from the reciever .... i can erase flash or program it

i can also program eeprom

i think my eeprom is corrected because after i have read so many people's FAQs it seems like everyone had same problem

Qrash thanks for the offer .. but i would like to fix it myself

The eeprom file that i have might be corrupted and i cant seem to find another Eeprom file anywhere the build config for my eeprom is DASC

i found alot of other eeprom but not this config file

Oh also i build my own Jtag and i also had it ground... i followed instructions from this site

any suggestions guys

Use flashedit or iRDR to make a new eeprom file.........

06-12-2004, 05:23 AM

lefty
06-12-2004, 05:34 AM
but still doesnt power on

Have you:

Removed the ground after the data programming sequence?

Switched the vid mod off?

Have you put it in the stream yet?

:cool:

skinerd
06-12-2004, 06:59 AM
yes i am aware of that ... but i found tsop for different reciever config such as daca and i made a virgin eeprom for it i programmed the reciever and flash the receiver stores that memory because everytime i click detect it gets the ird info but still doesnt power on

i cant find a flash or eeprom for DASC config reciever


use any DAxx, any one will work, I have loaded a DASA with DAHA software and reverse too, DAHA with DASA and both worked fine.

06-13-2004, 11:08 AM

06-15-2004, 03:21 AM

Qrash
06-15-2004, 05:08 PM
Qrash thanks for the offer .. but i would like to fix it myself



I sincerely hope you find the fix. As I mentioned, some of these DP301.013s seem to be governed by serendipity, not logic. On a few problematic units, it was almost like popping a stubborn Hu card ... and I scratched my head trying to pinpoint whether I had done anything different after several seemingly identical iterations of repair efforts. Nevertheless, my offer to help remains on the table. Good luck ... Qrash

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DishMan2
06-15-2004, 10:36 PM
Message me if you have not get it to work yet! I'll email you the stuff step by step to get it boot up and working again!

06-16-2004, 08:32 PM

casemodgod
06-17-2004, 02:27 AM
Yep, I can verify the R79 thing personally. I was wiring my Jtag, and I went wire by wire, plugging and unplugging. Just in case, I just wanted to make sure the light would come on and I did not short anything along the lines.

If you ground R79, it will not power up, once you unsolder the leg that goes to ground, it should power up. I have the other leg thats on R79 still there, and yes I did plug it in and into a TV and it powers up fine that way. I verified this twice as a matter of fact, just to make sure it was not a bad solder job on my part. Both times, same result.

06-17-2004, 07:39 PM

FreeTVAddict
06-17-2004, 08:51 PM
FYI, on a 301.013 that I worked on recently, with the VID mod on and R79 grounded (both connected to a DPDT), I noticed the light did not come on but I was able to read with Jkeys.

So the answer is, on a 301.013 the light does not come on when VID mod is on.

Does the light come on if the VID mod is off, which includes removing R79 to ground? If no, then the problem is definitely with the modifications you made.

gunther
06-17-2004, 09:42 PM
FYI, on a 301.013 that I worked on recently, with the VID mod on and R79 grounded (both connected to a DPDT), I noticed the light did not come on but I was able to read with Jkeys.

So the answer is, on a 301.013 the light does not come on when VID mod is on.

Does the light come on if the VID mod is off, which includes removing R79 to ground? If no, then the problem is definitely with the modifications you made.

This is why I NEVER hook the R79 and the Vid mod enable switch to the same switch.

The LED is totaly controlled by the CPU... which means the CPU can (and is all the time if the IRD's plugged in and not fried) come up and run code, and when it feels like it, turn on the LED. If the software on the IRD is corrupted, or the CPU is otherwise prevented from executing the LED will never come on.

That's what the R79 ground during boot does... the CPU looks at the state of the pin that's attached to R79 at boot up, and if it's low it enters a diagnostic mode (boot from DCU = Diagnostic Control Unit), and does not boot from the flash.

The LED not coming on isn't because the Vid mod is turned on, it's because the R79 ground is preventing the CPU from running the code in the flash. Since it never runs the code in the flash that provides the IRD normal functions, the LED will never come on.

You can enable the Vid write enable switch with the IRD up and running, and nothing will happen. You can boot that way too. However if I were charlie, I would propably eventually get around to writing an ECM that checks to see if the locked sector of the flash is writable, and then scramble/wipe the flash if it is, since only a modified receiver with the switch left on will act this way.


Combining the Vid mod write enable function, and the R79 ground function just confuses the issue.

06-17-2004, 11:20 PM

gunther
06-17-2004, 11:38 PM
my vid mod is off and r79 is unplugged but still nothing .. it could be something with my modification but i downloaded the flash from this site and created a virgin eeprom and programmed the reciever at first my box keys were just 11 22 33 44 and so on so i went back to flashedit and i used the box key and reciever # from my other 3100.013 and then i programmed the reciever again and then igot the reciever and boxkeys also whenever i was creating a virgin eeprom it asked me for the manufactured name i got that from my reciever which was DASC and i put it in there although the flash that i downloaded says that it was DAHA .. i dont know if thats causing the problem but i think it should since i created a virgin eeprom

Try another software image, some of the files in the TSOP bank are messed up. If you want I can send you a public dump of a known good and compatible DASC image. Just let me know where you want it sent.

FreeTVAddict
06-18-2004, 08:53 PM
Combining the Vid mod write enable function, and the R79 ground function just confuses the issue.


I don't see how it confuses the issue if the instructions are to write to your TSOP, you need VID mod enabled and R79 grounded?

I've done this on three 301.013 and have not had any problems with doing the VID mod to the TSOP and adding the softlocks.

BTW... what's the point of enabling the VID mod switch with the IRD running? To say I can flip the switch and nothing's happening to my IRD? :)

One more thing, why would the switch be on at all when you're watching TV?

06-19-2004, 05:34 AM

FreeTVAddict
06-19-2004, 01:50 PM
Masta_mind > If you can read and write to your TSOP and EEPROM, then the problem is not with the voltage.

1. Place the VID mod switch in the off position. Remove R79 to ground.
2. Place your card (Magic, Atmega, plastic) in your IRD.
3. Hookup your Sat & TV cables to the IRD.
4. Turn on TV.
5. Plug in the power for the IRD.
6. Do you get a green light or screen?
7. If no, select Satellite on your remote and switch on the IRD. Anything now?
8. If still no, try press the power on switch on the front of the IRD. Anything now?

If still nada... consider undoing your mods on the IRD and go through the above steps.

If still nada... get another IRD! LOL J/K

jimyt
06-19-2004, 08:05 PM
QUOTE i also cant seem to figure out if i have 1 tsop or 2 but i tried both my reciever would let me put in 4mb 1 tsop file and i also reflashed the whole thing and put in 2 tsop file ... and also made a virgin eeprom for them and programmed it..


Look at the board, you will see either 2 small square identical chips, or you will see one small square chip with a BLANK slot exactly like the one beside it. It is kinda in the middle of the board and to the left, they or IT will be there, in one condition or the other as described above. If you have 2 it's dual, 1 it is a single

Hope that helps you.

Jimyt

generalABC
11-25-2004, 06:37 PM
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generalABC
11-25-2004, 06:39 PM
301 10 willnot light can someone tell me how to jtag top of 301 10 soldered rj45 THANKs from NEW newbie General ABC