changing firmware from dish to bev on 6000

[apd]

Hi. I am an old guy of 65 and a newbi at this .First I J- tagged and saved both flash 1&2 and also the eprom . I then verginised the eprom and then loaded it in the receiver.I then reread that eprom to insure that what I had loaded was in fact a verginised eprom and it was. I then Erased SA30 on flash oneand read both sec 30 on flash 1&2 They show they both have been erased. However after leaving it online and the receiver off the firmware does not change . I have followed WANNNA_be`s Guide to JTAGGING a6000 IRD VERSION 3.0 to the letter in fact the illustrations in his referances match mine exactely. I am stil lost please HELP. :cry:

[graco1]

Hi. I am an old guy of 65 and a newbi at this .First I J- tagged and saved both flash 1&2 and also the eprom . I then verginised the eprom and then loaded it in the receiver.I then reread that eprom to insure that what I had loaded was in fact a verginised eprom and it was. I then Erased SA30 on flash oneand read both sec 30 on flash 1&2 They show they both have been erased. However after leaving it online and the receiver off the firmware does not change . I have followed WANNNA_be`s Guide to JTAGGING a6000 IRD VERSION 3.0 to the letter in fact the illustrations in his referances match mine exactely. I am stil lost please HELP. :cry:
firs of all im glad you save your 2 reads just look for a bev tsop in the that matches your build configaration and edit bk/ird and rewrite both one and two or you can erase one and rewrite two(also very important) bev 6000 does not support the 8spk module you may have to take that out and if you wanna go from bev to dish you will have to get that module i hope this help and good luck

[apd]

Thank you for your Quick reply. My friends 6000 under Bev is exactly the same as mine bootstap, model I.D etc. My build config. is CNAA . His build config is CNCA are these compatible if not can you help me. Thanks again.

[livnitup731]

Im about to do the same thing today, but I dont believe you have to rewrite your tsop from a bev one. It should stream update due to your erasing sa30. Strange.

OHHH, wait...are you pointed at 91? You have to point to 91 to get software updates, even though the 82 has the hdtv.

[wannna_be]

okay okay slow down guys

1st off if either of you has an 8PSK module by pass it or take it out of the 6000 if you are switching to bev.

Bev doesn't suppor the 8PSK and therefore will not take the upload for the new firmware I believe.


Switching is a simple matter. Take reads of both your TSOP's and then make a virgin eeprom from them, using either irdr.exe or Flashedit.

Now I am gonna tell you this that your build is not CNAA!

TSOPS generally end with A and eerpom rarely ends with A. What you need to match is the EEPROM build not the TSOP and if you followed my guide to the TTTTTT then you will see that. When you make the virgin eeprom the build letters MUST match all 4 letters exatcly how they are on the sticker. This sticker is on the motherboard of your IRD. You must take the case of it to see the sticker. I think that this may be your problem.

Okay now you cannnot erase in part or in whole any part of the TSOPS without programming a virgin eeprom first. Once you have the virigin eeprom programmed you can erase SA30 in the U45 flash. Then put it in the bev stream. As livinitup731 says dish must be pointed at the 91 degree bird to take the firmware and without the 8PSK.

[apd]

Gentlemen I can`t express my gratitude enough for your help in solving this problem , I applied your directions and it updated right away. Thanks again. Gentlemen I have one other problem, I have an amega 18,432 and have tried all available software for this card, but to no avail. My downloaded software is Version E462CNAA-F is there some problem with this software and current atmega fixes Thanks.

[wannna_be]

Gentlemen I can`t express my gratitude enough for your help in solving this problem , I applied your directions and it updated right away. Thanks again. Gentlemen I have one other problem, I have an amega 18,432 and have tried all available software for this card, but to no avail. My downloaded software is Version E462CNAA-F is there some problem with this software and current atmega fixes Thanks.

Okay as noted in many posts on many forums, getting an atmega to work with a 6000 is very troublesome and some peeps never do get it done. There are a few PFG for 6000 floating around try maestra for one, I have seen a few there but can't tell you if they work or not.

Your firmware has an F at the end and I therefore suspect you have a corrupt eeprom. As I stated in my earlier post you build for the eeprom doesn't end with an A but more likely a D. Go thru the steps again but this time make sure you look at that sticker on the motherboard for the correct build. Your software should show as E462CNAD-N, I beleive. For sure it should have the N on the end.

[apd]

Gentlemen,My config tag on the motherboard is CNAD , This is what was virgionised. After erasing SA30 on U45, it took the software immediately. My friends 6000 config tag is CNCD, he is authorized and receiving programs.His software version is:E462 CNCD-N , Mine is currently : E462 CNAA-F But there is no programing as it is not authorized.We have tried all current loads available for Bev 6000 receivers using atmega 18,462 with the same results zero.
You stated my eprom is probably corrupt when I reread it comes up CNAA. However I am confused , for example:

My freinds 6000 rec. Authorized
Build on board CNCD , Read Eprom under Bev:REC#-6000-12AB-CNCA-12N-E462-EEprom

My 6000 Bev with new software not authorized.

Build on Board CNAD, Read Eprom under Bev:REC#-6000-12AB-CNAA-12N-E462-EEprom

This is my original Eprom read as I Received it and before it was hooked up.

REC#-6000-12AB-CNAA-12N-783P-EEprom

My Virgionized Eprom under dish, small d and capital A added to identify it.

REC#-6000-12N-783P-12AB-CNAAdA-EEprom

I do not now what I did wrong .

[apd]

Just a little thank you to WANNA BE I should not have questioned your instructions and accurate directions. I created a new virgionized eprom streamed the receiver and the correct software version did infact come up THANKS AGAIN APD.

[wannna_be]

Hey thanks for the compliment. I was gonna do another post the other day, but I figured it wouldn't come out correct and that I would put my foot in my big mouth so I didn't. I had faith that you would go back over everything and try again step by step and it looks like that is exactly what happend.

Great to hear it is up and running!

;)

[Ghengis]

Where is the guide?? I mean, under which folder?

I looked in the ftp/files area, and I was unable to find it. It wasn't in the How-to section that I could find anyway.

[apd]

APD Sorry, My computer crashed and I lost my zip folders.However I printed out the Guide which was downloaded from the files section. (Wanna_be`s Guide to Jtagging a 6000 IRD Version 3.0 ) I do not Know If Wanna_be is a moderator on this site but he did reply to my post and helped me, and I was extremely grateful.I am sure if you ask the moderator he will direct you to the proper section. Note! Just follow his instructions and you will have no problem, I am 65 and I struggled through. Thanks.

[Ghengis]

Hey thanks for the compliment. I was gonna do another post the other day, but I figured it wouldn't come out correct and that I would put my foot in my big mouth so I didn't. I had faith that you would go back over everything and try again step by step and it looks like that is exactly what happend.

Great to hear it is up and running!

;)

Firstly, if anybody is having difficulty (as I did) finding Wanna_be's Guide it's found in the Echostar files section of the FTP.

Next, a question:

I'm a little confused, I'm sad to admit. I'm starting with a Dish IRD, and I want to flash it to do Bev.

The sticker on my motherboard says "CNCD", but when I load the U45/U41 .bins saved from reading with Jkeys in Flashedit, it identifies the software version as CNCA, and the eeprom from Jkeys is cnca-eeprom.bin

So, I need to find a Bev 6000 CNCD.bin in the Tsop bank? (which I couldn't find btw)?

[apd]

Erase the Eprom 4/5 times , create the new virgionized eprom from your 2 flashes, load your new eprom, stream the receiver. and you should be okay. Here is the eprom. Try creating your own first.

[dickched]

I think I've got the eeprom/Tsop process down but I'm wondering about how I can properly point the dish at the birds to get the update. If I point while I still have dish software will I get signal but a wrong sat msg? Should I do this till I get 2 wrong bird msgs then erase the eeprom and program the virgin and erase sa30? Don't wanna flub up my 6000 that's been soooo good to me the last few years. :-)

DH

[apd]

Just point the dish at satelite 91 EX VU, turn the receiver off , and forget about it for about 5 hrs. Mine took about 12 hrs. you should be okay.

[normsbro]

dick while you still have the dish software repoint your dish to bev's main sat nimiq 1 at 91 degrees (don't worry about bev's other sat nimiq 2 at 82 degrees just yet (even though it has all the high definition programming)), your screen will say wrong sat but thats ok for now remember to set your ird to download without permission. unhook your ird and jtag it, now you may want to have a back up of your dish software just in case you ever wish to convert it back to charlie later on, do your tsop/eeprom stuff and you should be good to go, when you erase flash 1 sa30 you should only have to erase it 2 or 3 times and your software download to your ird should only take no more than 1 hour (when its downloading/updating your ird just leave it alone and off for the full hour). once you have your bev software in your ird jtag it again to save your new info (flash 1, flash 2, and eeprom) good luck.

[dickched]

Thanks for the help everyone! It went like clockwork! I got a signal of about 90 from the 91 bird. Jtagged my Ird and streamed it. It only took about 20 mins to download the software. After I did a switch check I found that I had the 82 bird with a signal from the high 40's to 60's. Since Bev recently changed their footprint I'm missing alot of transponders (I live in South Florida) but still get all the HD content but one channel I think. Thanks again to all of you...

DH

[aspencade]

OK folks, this should be a good one :) I have a 6000 with the hd module. My plan was to convert to Bev for the HD channels. IRD has been fine for dish but never tested the stock sat input cause i was using the hd module the whole time. Anyway i know you don't use the module with bev so i took a dish 301 and aimed a dish at the 91 bird, followed wannnbe's guide to the letter and let it stream overnight. Nothing happened so i found the correct tsop build on a site and wrote to both tsops after editing ird# and boxkeys. Thats when i noticed why it never streamed. I get no sat signal at all when using the stock sat input (module removed) So what i did was convert back to dish, installed the module and i get sat signal on the bev91 bird (even though it says wrong bird) just like i did when i aimed it using a 301. Now when i remove the module i don't get any signal and thats when aimed at bev91 or any dish birds. Is there anything i need to do besides slide the module out or do i have a h/w problem inside ird?? I have tried everything i can think of but have not had any luck getting any kind of signal with the module removed (dish or bev). I was hoping one of you 6000 gurus would have some ideas. Thanks :)