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06-19-2003, 01:56 PM

OneHwyMan
06-19-2003, 05:20 PM
We all should be....:D :D :D

What do you need Kasper?

OHM:cool:

06-20-2003, 01:36 AM

DTVismybitch
07-14-2003, 10:29 AM
Do those software locks really work or can dish get to them anyways.

OneHwyMan
07-15-2003, 07:03 AM
What he means is the firmware or tsop locks,and when installed correctly,work like a charm.You need one to test Dish,not so important on BEV but recommended.

OHM;)

DTVismybitch
07-15-2003, 11:00 AM
From what i have heard BEV is not allowed by law to damage your receiver in any way. This is because when you buy it you actually buy the receiver, if you unsub they may ask for the card back but not the receiver. You are the actual owner of the item and if they trash it for some reason they can get in some heat. Does that sound to be any way truthful at all, I have heard that from a few people. Just a thought.

mili
07-15-2003, 06:07 PM
That was BEV's past practice. As of this year they do ECM TSOPs and I think EEPROMs as well. The software lock from what I understand is basically FF-ing out a few bites in the TSOP, don't ask me which ones.

mili

DTVismybitch
07-16-2003, 07:21 AM
How is it that they can do it now? Also, how does the TSOP ECM know to ECM a certain receiver. Does it check the card to see if it is illegal and then ECM the TSOP if so. I am confused as to why a hacked receiver accepts the TSOP ECM right but not a subbed one. Any info on that.

t160hq
07-16-2003, 03:07 PM
As I understand it they are actually using a modified subrotuine built into the TSOP orginally for another purpose. "Serious Error".
What the orginal purpose was I haven't a clue.

As to what triggers it several things can. Usually they target something on a test receiver that is not on a sub. A lock for example TSOP or EEPROM. Another method is to target information that is on a test card that would not be on a sub. Like a wide open 3m. Another card type target would be sending a command to the card that a normal sub would process in standard fashion and a test card because of the blocker will not pass.

This is appears to be a difficult process for Charlie as it takes several months to set up. Lately it seems to take 2 to 3 weeks to test. Seems to be getting longer every time. My best guess is the large number of different models of receivers makes this task very difficult. It appears they have to find a target that will affect all models in the same way. Or tailor the hit for one or multiple models. I think the latter is more likely now as hits seem to be targeting individual models more often. With a accross the model range hit every several months.

t160hq

DTVismybitch
07-16-2003, 11:11 PM
Thanks for the info, makes total sense now. Really good post.