unlooping problem

[mili]

Tell him to get a Mikobu III loader and use Starglitch on it.

mili

[alexd]

Originally posted by leapfrog
sorry...don't mean to be a prank, but isn't this forum is for posting "DSS Receivers and Hardware". :-)

I'm staring at "DirectTV Forums > General Discussions" Seems to be the right place...

Anyway, I have a 4B card that is doing something I never saw with any other card before. Using my Omega II loader at 7.5 Volts, it ALWAYS unloops in a few minutes or so,(Starglitch/SEMU/Superclean/ExtremHU/etc.) but fails to give any ATR immediately thereafter. (In WinExplorer this usually pops up as a window right after memory writing; in ExtremeHU it says "unlooping failed.") WildWinExplorer seems to work until an attempt to read the card (or anything else) is made, then "no ATR, etc." Writing corruption-fixing HEXs to the card doesn't make a difference.

Anything I've missed...or is this card permanently damaged?
For what it's worth, I've seen others talk about similar unlooping/no ATR failures with 5B and 6B cards. Is it possible that some new ECM sneaked by us?

Alexd

[4x4]

Ok , to start with I am using an Omega II also ...
It is a dual crystal type and one of the best out there ...

I suggest doing a little tweaking first and see what happens then ...
First of all bump up the voltage to 9 volts - 500 mA ....
You will see a big difference there ...

I am attaching some unreal dac settings that make that loader fly ... Change yours to that and see what happens ...

Good Luck ...

4x

[alexd]

Originally posted by 4x4
Ok , to start with I am using an Omega II also ...
It is a dual crystal type and one of the best out there ...

I suggest doing a little tweaking first and see what happens then ...
First of all bump up the voltage to 9 volts - 500 mA ....
You will see a big difference there ...

I am attaching some unreal dac settings that make that loader fly ... Change yours to that and see what happens ...

Good Luck ...

4x

Thank you! I will try that and post back tomorrow with the results.

Alexd

[alexd]

I tried the new settings in ExtremeHu, it made the unlooping slightly faster with that program. However, I've always found that certain other WinExplorer programs unloop faster.

Running 9Volts made this difference:

Partial ATR (that completed the unlooping program) changed from 132503 to 7F132503; but that still doesn't cut it for a full ATR. I did see a few 3F7F132503 attempts, but they all failed to install the Bootstrap.

I don't want to push things to 12Volts, so I'll give up for now and wait for some stronger corruption-fixing program.

Alexd

[mili]

The T6 and T911 are the shittiest loaders alongside of the Extreme Shure Shot. I talk of experience.

mili

[alexd]

I want to be sure that anyone reading about this problem is clear on what I'm describing:

I CAN ALWAYS UNLOOP THE CARD! "No ATR" immediately follows (reverts back to looped at 00) is the problem.

I have an Omega II. It unloops, unlocks, and/or ROM glitches in 1 minute with: Starglitch, Crusaider, ExtremeHU, Identifile, SEMU, Superclean, RS-unlooper, X-unlooper, WildWinExtreme, Hammer,
and at least 1/2 dozen other programs!

But, immediately thereafter (or after you write corruption-fixing HEX files to it in WildWin) the "No ATR" message comes back.

I have written "CLEAN" 4B, 5B, and 6B bins to it (upon initial "unlooping") as well as other assorted bins. THIS MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. The card is obviously corrupted or damaged.

So, if anyone has any further corruption-fixing programs (or other ideas WITHOUT trying to be helpful by telling me how to unloop it)
I would appreciate it. I'm particulary concerned that this may just be the tip of the iceberg, and some "Black Sunday" card burn has been slipped in by Dave within the last few weeks.

Alexd

[4x4]

I think you just answered your own question ...

The card is obviously corrupted or damaged.


These cards were never ment to do this .. They say that the life of an HU card is about 1/2 million glitches ...
Maybe it is cooked ...

4x

[wasteospace]

If it was cooked, would he even get an ATR? The partial ATR is normal while unlooping. If you can't write a bin once the bootstrap is loaded, I would think it is a loader issue. Try adjusting some settings on your loader or in the unlooping software. Otherwise bring the card to a different loader to see if that helps.

[alexd]

I can always write a bin to it after the initial unlooping bootstrap is loaded. But, that doesn't do any good.

Interestingly, the memory write slows down (kinda hiccups) about 1/2 way through but continues to completion, as the bin is being written. Clearly this is a clue as to something wrong...

Alexd