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alwayswatching
07-21-2004, 09:01 PM
i downloaded the software lock in the file section does anyone know how to apply it and if it is safe and if it really works after that ecm on tuesday at 11:55am im ready for some locks im gonna get the hardware locks i just want to try this first till it comes

im gonna attach the file as so there is no confusion

eFish
07-21-2004, 11:54 PM
That puts a EESOP soft lock on by jtaging you ird. Flashedit does the same when building or fixing your irds bin file. Look for the flashedit more widely used.

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 07:22 AM
So how do you do it with flashedit? What do I need to put in the field?

mudbug_kid
07-22-2004, 07:32 AM
you just need to open your current saved tsop in flash edit,click on the softlock (highlites green)save as personal dump,,write to your ird

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 07:35 AM
check the box next to the highlighted green? it says fix crc. I am using flashedit 2.0

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 07:43 AM
Never mind, I just typed before I searched, I just downloaded the flashedit with softlock option out of mili's downloads.

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 05:50 PM
Never mind, I just typed before I searched, I just downloaded the flashedit with softlock option out of mili's downloads.


hey Crazy1_79 did you get it to work i cant find that file on the file down load section i have flashedit but you say you have the onewith the software lock on it could you post it or tell me what line it is on in the file section please i want to try it out i hope it works if so it will saveme about 4 trips to the computer with jtaging

thanks in advance

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 05:52 PM
NO problem, I added the lock to my bin file for my 3900 tsop, but I haven't jtagged it in yet. but here is the new flashedit with the softlock feature.

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 06:00 PM
NO problem, I added the lock to my bin file for my 3900 tsop, but I haven't jtagged it in yet. but here is the new flashedit with the softlock feature.

thanks alot Crazy1_79 i appreciate that i just hope it works im still gonna try and get the other one from oddcircuits for $15 and im gonna get the mc's from mili because i think we are in for some trouble with these rom 10's pretty soon they will be done what i mean is they will find a way to get passed the blockers to loop them i didnt hear where they can loop the mc's have you heard anything like that ? if they cant then thats the way im gonna go because remember the dish cards are there own creation so sooner or later they will hit us like they did the rom 3's just a matter of time so be prepared thanks again

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 06:04 PM
I have magic cards and no they cannot be looped. I have a atmega that cannot be looped, I also have 3 rom 10's that I don't use very often because I agree with you , they are long overdue to be hit. I don't have MIli's private blocker and I don't trust public ones very well. I just use my rom 10's on occasion, basically save them for backup. I just wrote one pair of the emm signatures to my mc, don't know how to add it to my public blocker, made a thread about it and waiting for reply. I agree with the locks, I actually had one and sold it. stupid me, I also got rid of all of my rom 3's after the last incident. I figured I'd get money out of them while they were still good and focus on the 10's

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 06:15 PM
I have magic cards and no they cannot be looped. I have a atmega that cannot be looped, I also have 3 rom 10's that I don't use very often because I agree with you , they are long overdue to be hit. I don't have MIli's private blocker and I don't trust public ones very well. I just use my rom 10's on occasion, basically save them for backup. I just wrote one pair of the emm signatures to my mc, don't know how to add it to my public blocker, made a thread about it and waiting for reply. I agree with the locks, I actually had one and sold it. stupid me, I also got rid of all of my rom 3's after the last incident. I figured I'd get money out of them while they were still good and focus on the 10's


that was smart to get rid of them before the ship went down im hoping that this software lock works the only problem is that i heard that they can now detect if you have it on . and the sad part about it is there is now way to check to see if its working unless we get a ecm ,at less not that i know of and i also heard that when you do get a ecm you get a 800 number on the screen where you just pull out the card and plug it back in. if thats how it works thats great but if they detect it and keep hitting you it becomes worthless. im using 30.013 and 301.10 i love them they are so easy to work on and i make my own jtags non powerd never had a problem which rec are you using

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 06:21 PM
that was smart to get rid of them before the ship went down im hoping that this software lock works the only problem is that i heard that they can now detect if you have it on . and the sad part about it is there is now way to check to see if its working unless we get a ecm ,at less not that i know of and i also heard that when you do get a ecm you get a 800 number on the screen where you just pull out the card and plug it back in. if thats how it works thats great but if they detect it and keep hitting you it becomes worthless. im using 30.013 and 301.10 i love them they are so easy to work on and i make my own jtags non powerd never had a problem which rec are you using
I have a 3900 that I use, I have a 4700 upgraded to a 4900 that a friend of mine uses, and I have a 4900 that another guy uses. Magic cards are their form of testing. so I don't have to run over there if something goes wrong, they are still learning. I have a 301-010 that is suppose to come in the mail today! whohoo!! I can't wait for it to get here. just jtagged the receiver with the softlock bin and am running checkswitch now.

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 06:23 PM
about those jtags you make? buffered, or no? I tried making a simple one and even bought the pogo pins and clips, it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas besides bad soldering joints? I pulled schematics off for the buffered one, thought about giving that one a whirl

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 06:45 PM
about those jtags you make? buffered, or no? I tried making a simple one and even bought the pogo pins and clips, it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas besides bad soldering joints? I pulled schematics off for the buffered one, thought about giving that one a whirl








sounds good ! but dam i wish there was a way to try out the softlock i dont want to wait till i get hitto know but i guess thats part of the fun huh?
hey how long did it take for you to get you mc's after you made the order im assuming you got them from mili i saw where its said 3-5 buisness days thats ok with me i also read where some guys where getting bad units according to them i dont know about that some times people try to use things without reading fully how hard is it to programm the mc's? cant be that hard hey let me tell you what happend to me also i have a dtv rec that was running a hu card when the stream was up i was able to putthe dtv rec with the hu in the dish stream and get dish but that was when the hu was runningi have'nt tryed it since but i want to to see if it wil work i have p4''''''''s also that i want to try what do you think about that have you ever tryed that? about the jtag i solder right to the board and make a tail using db 9 serial connectors male and female i take out the phone jack and use rj45 cable for the wiring im gonna take some pictures of it to show you ok

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 06:52 PM
sounds good ! but dam i wish there was a way to try out the softlock i dont want to wait till i get hitto know but i guess thats part of the fun huh?
hey how long did it take for you to get you mc's after you made the order im assuming you got them from mili i saw where its said 3-5 buisness days thats ok with me i also read where some guys where getting bad units according to them i dont know about that some times people try to use things without reading fully how hard is it to programm the mc's? cant be that hard hey let me tell you what happend to me also i have a dtv rec that was running a hu card when the stream was up i was able to putthe dtv rec with the hu in the dish stream and get dish but that was when the hu was runningi have'nt tryed it since but i want to to see if it wil work i have p4''''''''s also that i want to try what do you think about that have you ever tryed that? about the jtag i solder right to the board and make a tail using db 9 serial connectors male and female i take out the phone jack and use rj45 cable for the wiring im gonna take some pictures of it to show you ok
I'd appreciate the pics, I might do it to the 301. I paid for next day delivery and got them 2 days after I ordered them, I have ordered 3 from MIli. I don't mind the extra $$ for a true offshore site and the support he offers us here. I have not had a problem with any of them, If you can program a rom card the MC will be easy. just read,read,read, you know the story, then if a problem arises, contact me or post a public thread. They are great plug and play. It took me 4 days to get my first one up and running, but I was new to dish, I added atmegas and rom testing later on. I can't believe that worked with the direct tv. But I know direct tv now uses the 110 and 119 sattelites as well, I doubt they are the same ones but maybe. who knows. that could be why you got signal. but I can't believe it was dish programming. That's fucked up. I still have a receiver for direct, I'll hang on to it in case of the miracle p4 hack.

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 07:01 PM
i dont think the p4 is coming and also a friend of mine said he read where dtv already has 15 million p6 cards ready to ship in the event of the p4 hack becoming public but i have about 8 dtv recivers im gonna try it later because it was a accident ther first time i was searching for a satelite signal without a meter and they are so close togeather i thought i had dtv signal but when i went to the guide it was diffrent and i start getting dish channels so i put my dish reciver on it and it came right up but that was about a year and a half ago i dont know whats gonna happen now but im gonna try it im takeinf those pic's for you now

xprezz
07-22-2004, 07:05 PM
[QUOTE=Crazy1_79]about those jtags you make? buffered, or no? I tried making a simple one and even bought the pogo pins and clips, it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas besides bad soldering joints? I pulled schematics off for the buffered one, thought about giving that one a whirl[/QUOTE

I use the simple jtag that I made. I solder a 6wire phone wire or on to the jtag pads then crimp a modular end on it . I used the same wire for my jtag it works every time with no errors. I just leave it hooked up in the receiver at all the time.
I also have a buffered unit with the pogo pins but it is a pain in the ass holding it in place or getting a error half way through with these new receivers that have 2 large tsops. I'll send you a pic if you want just p.m. me?

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 07:12 PM
[QUOTE=Crazy1_79]about those jtags you make? buffered, or no? I tried making a simple one and even bought the pogo pins and clips, it doesn't seem to work. Any ideas besides bad soldering joints? I pulled schematics off for the buffered one, thought about giving that one a whirl[/QUOTE

I use the simple jtag that I made. I solder a 6wire phone wire or on to the jtag pads then crimp a modular end on it . I used the same wire for my jtag it works every time with no errors. I just leave it hooked up in the receiver at all the time.
I also have a buffered unit with the pogo pins but it is a pain in the ass holding it in place or getting a error half way through with these new receivers that have 2 large tsops. I'll send you a pic if you want just p.m. me?
I had a quad mode jtag, just wanted to see if I could make a simple one for something to do. I would like to use the phone jack on this 301 I have coming, but then what do you do, solder a phone jack end on the end of jtag, and just plug n' play, right?

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:23 PM
I had a quad mode jtag, just wanted to see if I could make a simple one for something to do. I would like to use the phone jack on this 301 I have coming, but then what do you do, solder a phone jack end on the end of jtag, and just plug n' play, right?


ifinally got the pics for you

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 08:25 PM
upload them please

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:33 PM
upload them please

im trying to upload them but they are kinda shity cheap as camera you may not be able to view them i hope you can though

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:38 PM
im trying to upload them but they are kinda shity cheap as camera you may not be able to view them i hope you can though

here are some more

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:41 PM
here are some more
this is the last ones

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:46 PM
i never ever had a problem with this set up and its not bufferd at all just resistors and wires and db 25 and db 9 female and male and groung clips and i use rj45 cable

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:49 PM
im gonna get a digital camera and take them again i may just make aschenatic for everybody so it will be asy for them

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 08:51 PM
I may do something like that to that 301, I want to use the phone jack though. No visible alterations so it looks neat and clean. That is cool, I just ain't that steady with a soldering gun. I got great eyesight, just shake to bad. I have a uncle who is a soldering son of a gun, I might take it to him and see what he can do.

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 08:56 PM
I may do something like that to that 301, I want to use the phone jack though. No visible alterations so it looks neat and clean. That is cool, I just ain't that steady with a soldering gun. I got great eyesight, just shake to bad. I have a uncle who is a soldering son of a gun, I might take it to him and see what he can do.

i have one that you cant tell was modde i replaced the phone jack with rj45 socket and i used a rj45 cable and just plug it in when i need to jtag

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 09:05 PM
you just need to open your current saved tsop in flash edit,click on the softlock (highlites green)save as personal dump,,write to your ird

hey mudbug_kid im using 301.013 and 301.10 rec havce you ever tryed the soft lock with one of those units if so what was the result good or bad and is there any way that you know of to test it out or do i just have to wait fora ecm to hit


thanks in advance

alwayswatching
07-22-2004, 09:09 PM
I may do something like that to that 301, I want to use the phone jack though. No visible alterations so it looks neat and clean. That is cool, I just ain't that steady with a soldering gun. I got great eyesight, just shake to bad. I have a uncle who is a soldering son of a gun, I might take it to him and see what he can do.

im using 301.013 and 301.10 rec havce you ever tryed the soft lock with one of those units if so what was the result good or bad and is there any way that you know of to test it out or do i just have to wait fora ecm to hit

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 09:34 PM
well alwayswatchin, softlock just saved my ass. Got ECM'd with 153 serious error nag. Softlock saved tsop. just had to unplug and plug back in.

xprezz
07-22-2004, 10:51 PM
I had a quad mode jtag, just wanted to see if I could make a simple one for something to do. I would like to use the phone jack on this 301 I have coming, but then what do you do, solder a phone jack end on the end of jtag, and just plug n' play, right?

Crazy,get a phone jack crimper from ratshack or homo depot (modular crimp tool). They work great realy clean and eazy . They also will work on cat5 and 3. When you are done all you have is a phone jack witch you can leave inside you receiver case no holes or wires sticking out.

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 10:59 PM
Crazy,get a phone jack crimper from ratshack or homo depot (modular crimp tool). They work great realy clean and eazy . They also will work on cat5 and 3. When you are done all you have is a phone jack witch you can leave inside you receiver case no holes or wires sticking out.
I thought I could wire it to the female connection so I could make a jtag with the male connector on the end instead of pogo pins and then just plug and play brother, is that possible? Well anything is possible, but you know, within the realms of my abilities.

copakeman
07-22-2004, 11:07 PM
hi everyone, i dl the flah edit from this page. i want to try flash edit softlock. i have a 301.010, 2 flashes. which flash goes to u22,u23. ?
is flashedit softlock the most recent softlock or is there a better one ?
is the software lock in the file section good to use ? if yes what prog installs it ?
thanks for any help.
where does charlie live ?
c

xprezz
07-22-2004, 11:31 PM
I thought I could wire it to the female connection so I could make a jtag with the male connector on the end instead of pogo pins and then just plug and play brother, is that possible? Well anything is possible, but you know, within the realms of my abilities.

That is why I use a female to female conector to connect the two male ends on the jtag and the receiver. They sell these connectors at ratshack for around $2.00 . It has to be a 6wire modular connector.

You can use the phone jack on the receiver but, there are some traces on the board you must cut and some wiring you must add witch will make the receiver a testing unit only because you can no longer use the phone jack on the receiver to talk to dish. That is why I like the female to female connector you can just remove the wire when you are done and you have a good receiver that can be subed

This is the easiest set up I have ever come up with( I call it the E.T. you know phone home) and, I have used them all .

Crazy1_79
07-22-2004, 11:33 PM
The 301 just showed up, no jtag port on the bottom, damn it, I was hoping to get lucky, I believe the rom 10 card is streamlocked at A23. Guess it times to start hacking the case!

thehillbilly
07-22-2004, 11:38 PM
im using 301.013 and 301.10 rec havce you ever tryed the soft lock with one of those units if so what was the result good or bad and is there any way that you know of to test it out or do i just have to wait fora ecm to hit
I just now loaded a softlock on a 301.10...We will see how it goes. :D

hillbilly

xprezz
07-22-2004, 11:46 PM
The 301 just showed up, no jtag port on the bottom, damn it, I was hoping to get lucky, I believe the rom 10 card is streamlocked at A23. Guess it times to start hacking the case!

That is why the E.T. Jtag setup is great you just take the receivers board out once solder on the wires or get the top layout for the jtag pads on the receiver and thats it you have a jtag hook up when ever you need it . There is no need for a jtag port on the bottom of the receiver.
The top jtag layout for the 301 is in the download section of this site if you need it.

sukh77
07-23-2004, 12:05 AM
The softlock in flashedit is pretty self-explanatory. You just select it and save the image and apply to your IRD. There is no update for this patch. It either works or it doesn't. Seems like so far it has been working but charlie might get around to that soon by the way you guys keep posting about softlock.

chumlee
07-23-2004, 12:16 AM
I will keep this simple. When I have no softlock installed I get channles. When I add softlock I get 2 channles 101, and congrads you have a dish 500 system. Am I doing something wrong

alwayswatching
07-23-2004, 12:34 AM
I will keep this simple. When I have no softlock installed I get channles. When I add softlock I get 2 channles 101, and congrads you have a dish 500 system. Am I doing something wrong

start from the begining how did you put the softlock on ?

sukh77
07-23-2004, 12:52 AM
Chumlee what card are u using. I had a similar problem when I had softlock on a 301.13, I was able to use the blue card but not the yellow for some reason.

ninerblood
07-23-2004, 01:11 AM
This is the way i did it, i opened flashedit 2.0 from this thread. Then i browse for my backup TSOP bin file. Select write softlock. Select open and it shows system info then cllick on save as and select save personal dump and it gives me the my backup TSOP with the softlock installed in it.

Then i erased my 2800 as a whole then programmed the new file in jkeys and when i hook it up it only gives me 2 channels and a location id of 0000001.

What am i doing wrong or are you guys that have it working doing anything at all different? Is their a step by step instruction on how to do this?

Do i have to know delete the SA5 sector 3 times and restream?

srad750
07-23-2004, 01:22 AM
i'm getting same thing, do we have to check the "fix crc " box?

srad750
07-23-2004, 01:41 AM
ninerblood have you had any luck?

chumlee
07-23-2004, 01:52 AM
I am using flash edit. I have a 301.013 w/vid mod done and using magic card camless rom 3. I took the p203 update, as soon as it updated, out came the jtag and I backed it up three times as I usually do.

This is what I did I open Flash edit, open the file, fix crc so it is green, write softlock, save as personal dump, then write to ird.

Downloads guide displaying channel 101, and congrads you have a dish 500 system (channlel it htin it is 9900 or something like that).

Is their steps or a order to do it. I mean it seems to be just a simple process.

Thanks

ninerblood
07-23-2004, 02:04 AM
ninerblood have you had any luck?

No, still cant get it to work with the softlock.

chumlee
07-23-2004, 02:15 AM
same here did it evere way possible and combination, still nothing!!!

dagowv
07-23-2004, 03:08 AM
i just did a softlock on my 4900 bin and decided to give it a shot !!!

bring it on charlie!

srad750
07-23-2004, 03:12 AM
is it working?

dagowv
07-23-2004, 03:14 AM
working so far. only been 3 minutes soo we will see. i didn't go to the advanced area and click on "Fix CRC" though. What does that do???? Do we have to do that?

srad750
07-23-2004, 03:29 AM
apparently not

defcon5
07-23-2004, 03:48 AM
Hey guys...for the 301/3100 there are 2 bin files needed...for u-23 and u=22...are these the tsop and the eeprom reapectively...the other models only ask for one bin...D5

srad750
07-23-2004, 03:56 AM
were did find this info, is there more to the softlock process other than checking the "softlock" box and hiting save as?

dagowv
07-23-2004, 04:01 AM
got hit after 40 minutes, but i didn't check the "fix crc" box. not sure if i need to but went ahead and did it and trying it again!

wish me luck!

ninerblood
07-23-2004, 04:34 AM
got hit after 40 minutes, but i didn't check the "fix crc" box. not sure if i need to but went ahead and did it and trying it again!

wish me luck!

good luck and keep us updated

Crazy1_79
07-23-2004, 05:20 AM
That is why the E.T. Jtag setup is great you just take the receivers board out once solder on the wires or get the top layout for the jtag pads on the receiver and thats it you have a jtag hook up when ever you need it . There is no need for a jtag port on the bottom of the receiver.
The top jtag layout for the 301 is in the download section of this site if you need it.
I will definately be doing that very soon, my hand free feature on my jtag does not work with the 301 the pins are too long and the magnets won't touch the case and I'll be damned if I am going to grow a third arm to make it easier.

LocoMex
07-23-2004, 05:27 AM
well alwayswatchin, softlock just saved my ass. Got ECM'd with 153 serious error nag. Softlock saved tsop. just had to unplug and plug back in.


Crazy1, is there anyway you can upload the softlock you are using. Can't seem to find a download for softlock anywhere, including files section. Maybe put it on here as an attachment. Thanks. LocoMex

Crazy1_79
07-23-2004, 05:30 AM
eight post down from the top is my post that has flashedit with the softlock feature built into it. click on softlock after loading you tsop image and it does the rest for you , just have to jtag new softlocked tsop into receiver,

pyle
07-23-2004, 05:32 AM
you can't do a softlock anymore on 2700/2800/3700. also the last firmwares for the 301's put the kabash to that as well. hate to be the grinch but that's the way it is. 3900's and 4900's are still good to go but there day is coming also.

pyle
07-23-2004, 05:35 AM
working so far. only been 3 minutes soo we will see. i didn't go to the advanced area and click on "Fix CRC" though. What does that do???? Do we have to do that?

if the fix crc was green you did'nt have to check it anyway.

CRASHER
07-23-2004, 05:35 AM
Crazy1, is there anyway you can upload the softlock you are using. Can't seem to find a download for softlock anywhere, including files section. Maybe put it on here as an attachment. Thanks. LocoMex
Here is the file. It doesnt work with the latest version. If you did not updated your receiver software, only then it does.

alwayswatching
07-23-2004, 05:52 AM
Here is the file. It doesnt work with the latest version. If you did not updated your receiver software, only then it does.


hey CRASHER so the softlock wont work on the 301's huh? dam hey let me ask you have you ever got any locks from oddcircuits im about to order but i dont know if it is safe i hear people talk about it all the time

CRASHER
07-23-2004, 06:02 AM
hey CRASHER so the softlock wont work on the 301's huh? dam hey let me ask you have you ever got any locks from oddcircuits im about to order but i dont know if it is safe i hear people talk about it all the time
Now my friend you are not always watching, you should change your ID to always jtagging ;)
Anyway, I had charlie chaser 4, with wide open PPV on 301.013. no problems till now. I have never tried thoes programmable locks yet.

alwayswatching
07-23-2004, 06:16 AM
Now my friend you are not always watching, you should change your ID to always jtagging ;)
Anyway, I had charlie chaser 4, with wide open PPV on 301.013. no problems till now. I have never tried thoes programmable locks yet.


man you can say that again all day thats all i have been doing well they say it wont work with the new software for the 301's so iwill put the old one in and set it to not download with out my permission and try to use the old software with the softlock what do you think about that this is turnning into a full time job LOL!!!!

CRASHER
07-23-2004, 06:30 AM
I got HIT too, :mad2: Error 153. dont know if it is CAM ID, or PPV tiers. Did reset and everything looks fine for now.

Darkbob
07-23-2004, 04:34 PM
K dudes... I was thinking about loading a softlock but I'm not sure it's a good idea. My TSOP backup is a month old. There was a big update in the stream. If you don't have that update you aren't going to get much TV from what I understand.

I wonder... should you restream your IRD then back it up then apply the softlock then put the softlocked bin back on your receiver? Does softlock work with the new update from the stream?

More details!! I need more details. :)

alwayswatching
07-23-2004, 04:43 PM
K dudes... I was thinking about loading a softlock but I'm not sure it's a good idea. My TSOP backup is a month old. There was a big update in the stream. If you don't have that update you aren't going to get much TV from what I understand.

I wonder... should you restream your IRD then back it up then apply the softlock then put the softlocked bin back on your receiver? Does softlock work with the new update from the stream?

More details!! I need more details. :)

dont bother the softlock will not work on the new software if there was a way to put the old tsop back without it takingthe update then yes the softlock would work ive been up all night trying to trick it into not taking the update it works but youonly get music and fyi ans 450 and 490 it wont download the correct guide info without seeinng the new software if you have the old software working then your fine but make sure you have it set up to ask you befordownloading new software hope that helps and when it asks you say no

Darkbob
07-23-2004, 05:31 PM
Ok... here's my results:

Use old backup of my TSOP, apply soft lock - don't get any TV.

Use backup of my TSOP after it's been restreamed - try to apply soft lock - no luck. Flash Edit says the checksums on my TSOP don't add up and it refuses to add the soft lock.

Conclusion: no soft lock today. Time to get a digital lock going I guess.

-- Darkbob

srad750
07-23-2004, 05:57 PM
I have a 2800 and the last two versions of the software. I have install the 797 software to the flashedit and the softlock, saved as personal dump and got 0000001. I heard this is because of the newer software not tacking with the softlock. what if I use the old software which is 795, his anyone had any success with the older software and softlock sticking.

sukh77
07-24-2004, 12:00 AM
Srad - have u tried to pull the card and reinsert and do a check switch, after the location id went to 0000001. Just because you have a softlock on it doesn't mean that it will not get ecm'd. You will still get hit which turns the loc id to 0000001, you just have to pull the card or the power cable then do check switch to get it going again.

Crazy1_79
07-24-2004, 10:35 PM
Here is my 301.010 with the Jtag I hooked up to it. Alwayswatching, not to bad for a novice solderer!!! lol

bop
07-24-2004, 11:08 PM
K dudes... I was thinking about loading a softlock but I'm not sure it's a good idea. My TSOP backup is a month old. There was a big update in the stream. If you don't have that update you aren't going to get much TV from what I understand.

I wonder... should you restream your IRD then back it up then apply the softlock then put the softlocked bin back on your receiver? Does softlock work with the new update from the stream?

More details!! I need more details. :)

Darkbob,

I have a 4900 IRD. Here was the way I fixed mine and it has worked thru one hit the way it was supposed to.

After hit, erased SA30 3 times. Restreamed and let it take the update. Did a read of my newly updated TSOP and saved. Wrote softlock to this file and saved as personal dump then applied to IRD. When it got hit, just powered down and back up and it was good to go again. But you have to run check switch to get all channels.

I tried the softlock on my original backup at P178 (now at P216) and it didn't work. Hope you have luck with yours. It sure beats having to drag out the old jtag every 30 minutes.

Crazy1_79
07-24-2004, 11:11 PM
It has been brought to our attention the only receiers with current updates that can be softlocked are 3900 and 4900 I locked my 3900 and just have to unplug and plug back in.

sraeg
07-25-2004, 12:01 AM
You will not get Loc 0000001 if you have Softlock you'll get just a nag and then you just pull the card. and you do need to do a check switch. I had a 301 with Softlock that has worked for about a year until 2 days ago. Charlie got around it and got me. Still plan to use it for as long as possible.

sukh77
07-25-2004, 12:40 AM
sraeg - I'm not clear as to what ur saying. First you say the loc id doesn't go to 000001, but you get a nag. What is the NAG, if you get a 153 nag I think the location id is 000001. I have d-lock when I get error 153 the loc id is 000001 but I have to pull card and check switch, so I'm pretty sure soft lock does the same thing. Anyone else with some input on this Probably from Crazy1_79.

Second you say got around the softlock, so how are u planning on using it for as long as possible. Don't get me wrong I just want to get the facts straight we don't want to mislead anyone.

alwayswatching
07-25-2004, 12:51 AM
Here is my 301.010 with the Jtag I hooked up to it. Alwayswatching, not to bad for a novice solderer!!! lol


not bad at all hey my thing is as long as it works hey is there a fix out yet for the plastic rom 10

Crazy1_79
07-25-2004, 01:03 AM
yes, sukh, with the softlock you still get the 153 error when ECM comes down, but your tsop is uncorrupted, your loacation id stays normal, therefore instead of rejtagging all you have to do is unplug and replug your receiver back in, run check switch and you back up in running, no waiting for the IRD to restream. It doesn't solve the problem from ECM's but it does save you from jtagging every 45 minutes.

Crazy1_79
07-25-2004, 01:04 AM
not bad at all hey my thing is as long as it works hey is there a fix out yet for the plastic rom 10
If there is I haven't found it or don't know how to apply it!!! My dish rom programming is just above "newbie" status!@!!! Hey I was pretty proud of myself with that jtag!!

sraeg
07-26-2004, 08:07 AM
Sukh77-
"When ecm's hit, you will still get error 153 but your location id DOESN'T change to 00000001, just pull the ac plug or even just card then plug back in. "
This info came with Software Locker program posted on ID last fall.

Think about it. Once your hit, you have to reflash Tsop right? If not, you stay with loc 000001. Pulling the card can't fix you tsops. But if you just have a nag, it means that your tsop has been hit without dameage thanks to softlock and pulling the card can reset, not fix the tsop.

From what I figure, Charlie does not send the info needed to get around the lock all the time but when you spoof your software ie. P214 or whatever, after awhile it becomes outdated and you get the nag to take update. I believe my software is really an old version as I haven't had to touch the ird since last fall and refused updated several times. Well during this last round of ecm's Charlie must of embedded something to get past the lock for updating old software. Doesn't happen often but it can. So I'll just reapply it a keep running until it happens again. Big deal. I'll probably be safe for awhile and that's great but if not even one save would be great too. I'm running now with Rom11's which seem to be a hell of alot better that 6 Rom3's I have sitting around collecting dust!

Softlock were a big thing a year ago and at many of the now defunct forums, it was discussed alot. Here is something I took from one of the forums.

"Softlocks This portion I am taking from a thread by Mister1000. I feel that it does a good job of describing softlocks. Here is a shortened version of the thread:

First there are three different versions or approaches to softlocks:
The LUTZ Diagram approach (great find by the way kudos to you )
The newest Flashedit approach (Blacks awesome job)
The SatFTA CRC ECM ReViVer(one of the deepest thinkers in this hobby)

We all have read enough about this to understand that Lutz Diagram found that if he read his tsop, searched for the String E6A2FFFFFFFFFF with a hex editor, changed the byte
from A2 to A5 and then saved the new file, he could in effect disable the effects of an ECM on our receivers (i.e. no location ID00000001). You could just reboot , unplug the
card, etc and we are back in business. Thru trial and error probably, Lutz also discovered that he needed to correct the checksums- CRC of the receiver to keep it from going into
update mode and reloading current firmware back to the receiver thus removing any changes to the firmware he had applied. Thus Lutz Diagram needed to go one more step and correct these checksums using Flashedit2 by opening the file, going to advanced mode, and verifying specifically the App Area Checksums. Lutz found that this needed to be corrected, and he did so. Saving the file a second time then writing back to the receiver, all is well and seems to work.

Blacks being the man that he is incorporated into his newest Flashedit 2.0a the softlock
patching process where by his software searched for the string, edited the string, and
corrected the checksums. But why and to what, should be the question we ask ourselves.
Well the why, we know, is to disable the effects of an ecm. The what is to satisfy the
CRC checksums of the receiver and keep it from updating the firmware and removing our changes.
Yes. But did it really? Lets look at the strings a little deeper,
E6 A2 FF FF FF FF FF non ecmed ird
E6 A2 78 88 B4 4F 14 ecmed ird
E6 A5 FF FF FF FF FF LUTZ with flashedit crc app area repair E6 A5 FF C8 30 81 85
flashedit2.0a patch mmm very interesting. A lot of peeps would search for the string a second time
and would come up blank. I think you can see why.

This is where I believe SatFTA being the deep thinker he is said, wait a minute,
how does that work? What is the significance of the A2 byte as well as the FF FF FF FF FF Bytes and the 78 88 B4 4F 14 Bytes lets rip it down and see. So what has changed on an ecmed ird.
E6 no change
A2 no change
78 ecm marker as per SatFTA
88 B4 4F 14 Can you say CRC corrector.
Why is the question of the day. Charlie wouldn’t want to Ecm our receiver and then turn around and fix it for us would he. MMMMMM! Anyone remember I think in march, when other provider sent down there first hit and screwed up a lot of subs, then had to turn around and fix everyone’s receivers. What would it take to accomplish this and get everyone up`again including those fiendish Pirates wearing bandanas. How about changing one byte in the CRC corrector, which causes a corruption in the APP area CRC, and forces the Ird to`reload fresh firmware. Make sense or no???
Now SatFTA, still pondering the A2 to A5 byte change, says wait a minute, what if I disable the marker byte and correct the CRC correction bytes. Marker byte FF to 00,Charlie cant make it 78 now cause its already zero. And if I Fix the CRC corrector 8B B4 4F 14 To 4E 08 BF 4B I kill two birds with one stone, and I didn’t change the E6 A2 they are still stock values, because I still don’t fully understand, what or why it is, what it is. And its pretty hard for Charlie tomake 00 marker byte a 78 now as it was FF to begin with. So SatFTA satisfies the marker and the Crc corrector.

Based on this thread, one can see there are three methods to use. I personally used the last version of the softlocks mentioned on a couple of 3900s at P230 and a couple of 4900s at their current software level. From a testing perspective, I find this a quick and easy method for recouping from an ECM."

Hope this answers questions. BTW. I've been around awhile just spent most my time at a couple other forums that are gone now and only post when I can offer something or desperate for answer.

maqmaqmaq
07-29-2004, 12:52 AM
Does anyone know how to use the xlock softlock program.

JacKaL
07-29-2004, 01:16 AM
well alwayswatchin, softlock just saved my ass. Got ECM'd with 153 serious error nag. Softlock saved tsop. just had to unplug and plug back in.

hey crazy, i'm new to this softlock business. But if I have my tsop softlocked, what do I do if I get ECMd. Do I jes unplug and replug the power cord? or do i have to remove the smartcard+magic card and put them back in. I"m running a married-sub mode.

please help
thanks in advance

Crazy1_79
07-29-2004, 01:19 AM
hey crazy, i'm new to this softlock business. But if I have my tsop softlocked, what do I do if I get ECMd. Do I jes unplug and replug the power cord? or do i have to remove the smartcard+magic card and put them back in. I"m running a married-sub mode.

please help
thanks in advance
Either or will fix it. Since you are running married sub mode, I would recommend just unplugging and plugging it back in. there is no need to take out and reinsert the mc and subbed card when they fit that tight. I think they fit so tight it would be easy to damage the MC or the sub. So I would suggest to unplug it, but if you are comfortabe with taking them out and putting them back in w/o fucking them up you can do that too. After you do one of them you will be required to run check switch again to get all of your channels if you have more than one sattelite hooked up

stealth_315
08-31-2004, 11:02 PM
does flashedit work with 501 IRDS ......