Problem with 3700 Conversion

[Roadblock376]

OK, a bit of history first. I got this 3700 that had Dish on it. I erased the sa5 a bunch of times and put the IRD into the stream (BEV 91) and let it go. I programmed the card and put it in right from the start. When the receiver powered up it took the update but said "This is a subscription channel, call DISH to order .....", when I hit guide it said "Unable to retrieve Guide". I erased the SA5 again 5 times and still the same stuff so I programmed the card and tried it in my 4700 that was already running fine and it took it no sweat. I then attempted to erase the whole tsop and write a new one from a BEV 2700 receiver with a similar build type(mine was CBSA and I used CBJA) I was told that only the first 2 letters were important to match. I used flashedit to put in my box keys and IRD#. I wrote it to the IRD and put it into the stream. Now it just sits on the "Aquiring Satellite Signal" screen forever(I let it go for 3 hours with power on and 5 hours with power off) and still nothing. I really need help cause I am going to toss it out the window soon. :cry: Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[LuckLarry]

You were mislead, my friend. The first 3 letters MUST match the build config sticker on your motherboard!!!.Find one that matches your sticker, and start over. I have found that receivers that have been sector erased, and stream updated for both providers only do so once, and then you have to reflash tsop to get them to work right. Always do a volatile memory dump after a provider change also.

[Roadblock376]

What is a volatile memory dump?

[LuckLarry]

Using your remote, press menu/6/3/info,right,left within 3 seconds/tv video. A screen will display "volatile memory has been corrupted". Follow the reset proceedure. This will also clear passwrds.

[Roadblock376]

Good to know, thanks. Any idea where I went wrong on my first attempts to just erase the SA5 and stream it??

[LuckLarry]

As I said, it may be that the receiver has been used for both providers, and the sector eras method doesn't always work for them.

[Cid6.7]

I just converted a 3900 to bev...
My build is a CLJA & I put a CODA 2700 build on itrunning just fine...

[LuckLarry]

Thats right, but sector erase and restream will not work.Also, sector erase addy is SA30 for 3800/3900/4700/4900....not that it would have changed anything.lol

[Roadblock376]

So then I need to find a TSOP file with the first "3" letters the same as my build, change the Box Keys and IRD# in Flashedit, then write it to my IRD and I should be good to go after I stream it? Then I should erase the volitile memory. Anything I missed?

[LuckLarry]

So then I need to find a TSOP file with the first "3" letters the same as my build, change the Box Keys and IRD# in Flashedit, then write it to my IRD and I should be good to go after I stream it? Then I should erase the volitile memory. Anything I missed?


That proceedure is fine.

[LuckLarry]

Hey noof, do you think it would fool the IRD into allowing you to erase and restream the IRD multiple times if you just backed up the TSOP before the conversion and used that flash to swap back and forth?

Seems like it would to me.

Kinda weird that you would have that problem anyway...guess Dish and Bev dont write to the exact same sections of the TSOP so dont totally overcome the existing code?



I have converted many receivers back and forth between providers, and I seem to get one dish/evu conversion cycle per unit before the sector erase/restreaming method won't work. I now just save and reload for each unit before and after firmware upgrades, and this works great when Mr. ecm finds me.

[Roadblock376]

OK, it's offical. There are no tsop bins available to me that are BEV, only DISH bins match my build type. Could I load a Dish program back to my receiver and try to erase the sa5 and convert again or will that not work?

[Roadblock376]

All I could find to match my build type was DISH software so I re-wrote the TSOP with the DISH software and erased the SA5 and put it back in the stream. I get the same messages as before where it asks me to call Dish and it cannot access the guide. I did a volatile memory dump and it said that the memory would be purged when either the unit was unplugged or the power buton on the front of the receiver was turned off. I did this and still no luck with it accepting the change. I am 100% convinced that the receiver has taken the update. Should I erase SA3 aswell? Does anyone have the build I need "CBSx" that already contains BEV? If so I would appreciate it very much if someone could send it please.

[Roadblock376]

What kills me is 98 views and only 2 guys have responded.

[DTVismybitch]

Roadblock376, all you need to do is put that first TSOP back on it, then when it comes up and sais that nag about this being a subscription channel go to the installation section on the receiver and do a switch check, once teh switch check is done it will give you a signal and it will be BEV.

[fearlss-1]

This was just what I wanted to post while reading this tread.I do multiple conversions and all I do is erase the relevant sector and restream.Do a switch check and your set to go on the new provider.I hope this helps someone with a similar problem.:)

[DTVismybitch]

I am also having a problem with a 3700 conversion. I have a Dish 3700 that I am trying to convert to a BEV receiver. I used a 2700c TSOP to attempt to convert it, and now I get no signal, I have done a check switch. But no signal, it is not the dish or the cable because I have tested my other receivers with the same setup. So it is the receiver. The build CFG is not the same as the 3700 one was, and I have converted numerous receivers with different ones with no problems at all. I am assuming that I should try a 3700c TSOP but like the Dish 2800 receivers the BEV 3700c receivers sometimes read as BEV 2700c TSOPs in Jkeys. So this shouldn't really matter but is worth a try. The last thing I can think of is that the receiver sat connector is broken, this is because when I got the receiver the front panel was broken off and in a few pieces, there was 3 other receiers in the same box when I got this 3700 it and they were all fine though, so I am not sure what is wrong, any insight will help me, thanks.

[lionman]

need help i make a mistake erase flash sa7 on my 3700 when i did it i found out that i erase the wrong flash it should be sa5 now my 3700 donot want to light up again what can i do to fix this problem

[shoot1]

I have taken many IRDs with bev configs and converted them over to dish config #s with no problems. I wished someone would come up with wether it is ok to change build config #s if your doing a full erase on the tsop or not. I have only done bev to dish build config changes havent tried to change dish to dish build config #s. Think I will just to see what happens. I have several different model #s, from 3000 to 2800 ti 3900 4900 301's of various builds, 501, 510 etc. Someone else post if they know and I will post what I find.