Canadian to US Apology

[Chief]

HEEHAW, hell, onehunglow, it's fun to laugh at ourselves sometimes. Show that post to 4x4 and some of those other cold-country dudes- a good heehaw, for sure. I'm still laughing at some of the usernames on these forums- "BinLoadin" is one I just noticed. You gotta love it. And what's the deal about all the gonads? Onehunglow? Cojones? Guess you guys are the only ones around here with any balls :D Chief

[4x4]

Chief , I know we shouldn't get in to polotics, you being a Texan and all but I agree with onehunglow 100%
But allot of Americans like to fight and that they will , the only problem is once the war has started the Iraqi's can see who is attacking them .. You get then towel head fuckers over here and there will be more than 2 buildings going down this time ..
That is why a war has to be prevented but we know that isn't going to happen now that the Moron has spent 12 million to send all the troops over there .. So what is gonn happen , a war ..
You will not be safe anywhere in the states ... Without a U N sanction you willl find yourself in deep shit ...
And I am a firefighter so you know how I felt on 911... Just watch the guy standing next to you in the subway cuz that fucker just might be there to blow the place up and take a few thousand Americans out ...
Ok ,there's my 10 cents 2 cents CDN ...

Peace !!

4x

[4x4]

I opologise if I offended anyone here ..
Those are just my own personal views ..

4x :D

[valenti]

Chief,

Up here in Canada it's "Canoles” We’ve got one chick at work (and she's 100% OK with us referring to her as a chick), she refers to the testes and scrota collectively as "The Winnebago"

I've told her that when referring to mine, she should really use "Prevost" and that would be more fitting in my case. Although she says Not Likely. She is truly a fine Chick.

As for "onehuglow's" post, I agree totally but on different terms. The media in both our countries, are far more interested in sensationalizing anything to sell a fucking newspaper or advertising time (Air as it's referred to in the industry) than they are about serious journalism. Just because some Stupid Fucking Minister or Member of Parliament says something stupid about an American, or vise versa, the media thinks that they need to report that, because we are interested. If some Government Official or any individual can only come up with a mindless piece of shit (like the one in question) I have no desire to listen to it, or read it, because I know if that's the best a person can come up with, they've got nothing. I have no problem with the use of the words fuck or shit, what I have a problem with is Stupid people saying stupid things.

American and Canadian Culture is going to remain different for a very long time. I love and hate things about both our cultures and countries.

You know why Canada's Armed Forces are seen all over the world as peace keepers??? cause that's ALL we can do with our current military resources.

I sure hope that terrorist’s don't ever attack some large downtown Toronto building...you know why? Two reasons. First and Foremost, a lot of innocent people will be killed, and many thousands more affected by loosing loved ones, not to mention the firefighters and cops that would be killed just doing their jobs. Secondly, all these bleeding heart terrorist and dictator lovers are gonna be eating crow like you've never seen, and not only that they'll be screaming at both of our governments "Why the Fuck didn't you do something when you had a chance?" And those will be the stupid people using the word Fuck.

And don't tell me it's about oil. If it was about oil, George W. Bush would NOT be going into Iraq to upset the entire region, which if anything would shorten oil supplies. If it was about oil, why not invade Venuzwala, or Saudi Arabia, or Kuwait. I know there's problems with America foriegn policy but Jesus Christ...come-On.

At least America has The Winnebago's to stand up and defend itself.

4x4 your right and that worries me too, but if you live in fear, the terrorists have won. What a prick I am huh...after all you've done for me.

sorry about this, and ya...sorry about Americas Beer too!

valenti

[valenti]

4x4...There's no need to apologize here from what I've seen, we all seem to be able to respect each others view, we may not agree, and thats OK, we still can accept and respect each others views. THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY Imoprtant here. I to do not like the prospect of War, but I think the ball is in motion and there may be no other way out at this point. I am a liberal, but on this issue, I am in agreement with George Bush, he may be a moron, but he has some very bright people advising him. This is gonna sound crass but if it's my innocent victims that get killed, or his innocent victims that get killed, I'm afraid that I must choose that innocent Iraqi's get killed...whether GW does Something here or not, terrorists are coming to America, and I'm not talking about the USA, I'm talking about ALL western countries.

there... my 2cents, and I am sorry if I've offended anyone.

valenti (A.K.A. Bin Worry'in)

[4x4]

He's going over there to finish up his daddy's business period !
He just thought that the rest of the world would be on the same boat as him !!

4x

p.s. I told ya we shouldn't get into polotics, and yes that is a shame about the beer down there ..

[Chief]

Hope I didn't sound as if I was making light of onehunglow's essay. It did make me laugh at myself, and laugh in general- like the comments about the beer, and the fact that though the US comes on as being perfect and almighty to some, we're not, we're just folks like our Canadian neighbors. If a man can laugh at his mistakes occasionally, he's better off for it and maybe, just maybe, he won't repeat the same mistakes.
I am a proud Texan, and a conservative Republican. But I sometimes wish they'd start a COMMON SENSE party. As to the war in Iraq, fellas, I've been in the middle east, and I've seen how they react to Americans. Most of 'em hate us. Why? It sure as hell ain't because they've been here and seen things for themselves, it's because the government-controlled media spews propaganda at 'em 24/7. And because the United States is the world's only remaining superpower. I don't mean superior, I just mean superior power. We're gonna remain in the world's crosshairs for as long as we have that power. Fanatics like Bin Laden and his goons' only purpose in life is to die as martyrs for allah, to punish anyone who doesn't share their beliefs,and don't forget the 72 virgins. Iraq war or no Iraq war, the terrorism ain't gonna quit. These nuts see the US as the antithesis to everything they believe in, and it'll never quit unless someone knocks us off the top rung and then the new big dog will become the new target of aggression. And the way things are going, if this country destructs, I hope it's not at our own hand.
COMMON SENSE tells me that Iraq should police itself- if 20 million people don't like the way 200-300 goons are running the place, let 'em revolt and run the SOB's off. The US really needs to work on serious problems of its own and quit trying to be the world's watchdog. But REALITY makes it different. 9/11 made it obvious that there are international enemies out there that will stop at nothing to destroy FREEDOM, not just Americans. I am familiar with the Bush family. My Dad was a very active Republican campaign manager years ago, on a local and state level. George Bush Sr. has eaten dinner in our house. They're good people, and they're not morons. George W. took 9/11 and everybody/everything about it personal, as an attack on his people. It don't make a fat rat's ass about Florida and hanging chads, he's the cat at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and he just decided that America has had enough.
Now the REAL moron is that idiot in Iraq. He can stay rich, stay powerful, singlehandedly stop the war and gain at least a little respect all in one package, but the sonofabitch is too big of a self-appointed know-it-all to pull it off.
Now, all of that being said, personally I wish they'd resolve it peacefully. I wish Hussein would just hit the road, start hacking cards or something. I wish his own people would rise up and run him out, or kill him outright. I wish Bush hadn't gone so far that even if he thought it best, it's now almost impossible to back up. I wish a lot of common-sense things, but the reality of it is that war's almost a certainty, and we'll pay a price, no doubt. I damn sure don't like it. But sitting on our asses is even worse. Indifference will cost us even more.
As to our friends in Canada- and not just my dss friends, all of you-your input is valued and appreciated. Sometimes Americans don't see the reality of a situation because we're too closely involved- and I think that applies to almost anything. On the other hand, maybe being on the sidelines as Canadians are to an extent, it's not as deeply personal as it is to us. I'll support this country and what it stands for, although I don't always like or agree with everything it does. I know our northern brothers and sisters feel the same way. Thanks, guys, just an old Texan's way of seeing things.. Chief

[4x4]

Boy , you must be really pissed at me !!

He ate dinner at your house and your hacking DTV , did you have the TV on at the time .. haha
Did you show him the high 590's !!

WOW

He probably just wanted to watch CNN huh !!

4x :D

[Chief]

First off, "at our house" meant my family house when I was growing up, so that was a LONG time ago. Richard Nixon was at the same dinner. No kidding. (No Nixon comments, it wasn't my fault, I was just a kid!!). HEEHAW on the hacking tv.. I'll bet the rascal would watch the 590's if he could leave Barbara at home!
Sorry for the confusion.
4x, that stuff doesn't make me upset in the least. It's obvious that you're an intelligent guy, one who thinks things through. In your line of work your very life depends on it. Same goes for Valenti, and all the others. He's a liberal, you may be as well, and that's WONDERFUL with me. Your intelligent viewpoints are every bit as worthy as mine. What I can't stand are people that don't know goose shit from tapioca that are so far out in left field with their political ideas that they just spout nothing but nonsense. Folks that don't agree with Bush, or those that voted for Al Gore- man, that's great. That's part of what this country was founded on- the 2-party system. But stop involving politics in every crucial decision. Or worse yet, stop making a racial issue out of every crucial decision. (All together now, can you say Jessie Jackson?) Anyway, love these discussions- you can't make me mad, even if you came down here and tried to hustle my wife. Might make her mad- she likes "Male Members". HAHAHA :D
Ya'll are somethin' else. Makes me want to come visit the cold country and have a few of those legendary beers I've been hearin' about. Chief

[4x4]

Valenti doesn't know anything , he is from Winnipeg !!

4x haha :D

[valenti]

4x4 you stupid SOB...why you don't know goose shit from tapioca.

No really....that was all poetry. Winnipeg is the intellectual capital of the world! And don't forget...and Chief will love this one...our Mayor is GAY. Bwaahahahahah hahaha hahah.

I've got a great idea on what to do with our terrorist and dictator buddies out East. I think that all Conservatives, Republicans and Liberals will agree that my plan has some merit. Lets exile Sadam and Bin-Laden and the rest of the goons, to the USA, but here's the kicker...lets put them in one of those jails where everybody takes nice warm showers together. You get where I'm goin here??? Let them feel the love and tenderness that can only be achieved with a size 9 poop chute. If you kill them, they're martyrs, so lets keep them alive.

Have a couple of the big prisoners declare a Ji-Haad on them...and like chief is always saying...it's actually pronounced Yeee-Haaaaw!

valenti:D

[Chief]

Val, if you put 'em in jail, and somebody tries that on 'em, they'll need a protection device. They make a good one down in old Mexico- it's called the Sodamigo. HEEHAW
Instead of bombs, let's drop TRIAL LAWYERS on Iraq. With all the torturing and murdering going on within Iraq ordered by Hussein himself, they'll be so many wrongful-death lawsuits going on that the whole damn place will be tied up in litigation for years, and nobody will give a rat's ass anymore about any WMD...whaddya think? And boy, did i stir 'em up over at hack. Go over to tc, feature files, 3-03-03 bin, and see for yourself...4x chimed in on 'em, too. HAHAHAHA Chief

[Chief]

Sorry for the double P. Val, don't bother lookin' over there-- the admin's zapped our posts. I buzzed 'em pretty good, but with respect and sensible talk. Ol' bigbob just went nuts. Made threats, ranted and raved- anyway, they cut 'em all out. Probably the only smart thing they've done in the last two weeks. Chief

[brummy]

hey cheif
just a little word from the communist left coast of california. It's allways good to hear that some of us americans still have their heads on straight
I'm with you brother

[Chief]

Good mornin, MWC. Yeah, I've got a little "typer's cramp" today. I'm tryin' to challenge 4x4 for his title. With some of the idiots we have here, like the aforementioned BigBob, we may be lookin' for some Canadian help pretty quick... Chief

[Chief]

Haven't seen you in here- but welcome! I've lived in Texas nearly all my life, but I was born right across the street from where they held the O.J.Simpson trial. I understand the hospital was torn down recently. I moved to Texas when I was three weeks old. So, I'm Texan, all right, but technically a California Communist like yourself. If ya'll can put up with Gray Davis, you ought to be able to stand just about anything. Anyway, join the fun- good to hear fresh voices. Chief

[brummy]

No No No
Lets get this straight I'm highly conservative
but I live up in the San Francisco bay area Did not would, not vote for grey davis and having my value in this area is like being a feather in a wind storm its a rough ride

[Chief]

You got Davis AND San Francisco to deal with? :( Somebody lay hands on this man....the last time I heard the name "Brummy", it was the name of one of Jerry Clower's coon dogs. Funniest damn tape I've ever heard in my life. You gotta stick around, buddy- I've got a feelin' I'm going to need a conservative or two- Chief

[valenti]

Chief

I think as you said "but with respect and sensible talk" you did do exactly that.

valenti

[valenti]

4x4...you know I was just fartin around with the

"4x4...you stupid SOB" comment there right.

I love ya like a brother buddy


valenti

[Chief]

Well, hello Valenti, top of the evenin' to ya. Thanks for the support, bud. And I wouldn't worry about ol' 4x4- he knows he's not stupid:D Chief

[4x4]

Now valenti why would you think I was upset ???
I luv ya like a grandson !! GRANDMA

I am even starting to like the old Texan !!

4x :D

[Chief]

.....the land of lawyers and the cheesesteak.. mornin' to ya. Old FA got a little peeved - no, a bunch peeved. He first blabbed that I'd tried to lure him away, which I did by PM, until a few people let me know how worthless he really is. I registered over there only about 2 weeks ago, mainly to browse around and chat with some folks. I've always used Mili's files , have for several months now. Anyway, I didn't know him well, some of his posts looked like he was trying to help out- the bosses weren't telling anybody anything and all their new bins/3m's were giving everybody fits. The newbies that weren't familiar with alternative means to deal with it were freakin' out. I got on there and told 'em how the cow ate the cabbage, in a respectful way, and FA blasted back, threatened to put my PM on the post (and would have if one of the mods hadn't stopped it), told me to shove it up my ass, announced that he told me to shove the invite up my ass which was a lie- I heard that he was actually interested until he had a chance to strut around in front of everybody and flame me.
Then in his next post he got real teary, real martyr-like, "all I've ever done is try to return to the community what it's given to me"..gimme a damn break. One of the members, who I found out is actually a minority partner in the ownership of the site, flamed me pretty good and then someone else got on and insulted him. I got several PM's from folks cheering me for having some nuts, a couple wanted to know where I was hanging, I never told 'em. One of them was randy25- do you know him? I made that mistake with FA, 4x warned me what a goon he is, so I stopped the invites. Like 4x says, we don't need the chaff over here- and he's right. The whole thing looked like a soap opera. But, you know, I'll bet you four dollars to a dog turd that it made some of 'em think! That was the whole point in the first place. I wasn't whining, I sure as hell wasn't trying to get in their good graces, and I'm not interested in hanging out and being everyone's bud over there. I'll stay here, where folks tell it like it is, even if it stings a little on occasion. No BS - only way to go.
Well, hell, I've rambled on again, sorry, but that's what happened, for better or worse- take care, Philadelphia :) Chief

[mili]

I don't like those soap queens one bit myself. A forum should not be a place where you get stressed out, we have much of that shit in everyday life. A forum is to have fun and get help on. No ballerina bullshit here. Fuck spell checkers and censorship. BUT, any asshole who tries a flame war will get sacked so fast he did not know what hit him. That is pretty much all I ask.

mili

[Chief]

Mili, I like your attitude. You're a gruff rascal sometimes, but we all know where you're coming from. Keep it up, bro. As for the spellcheck, I don't need it, they teach Texas kids how to spell in school :D We also learned early how to cuss:D :D
MWC, I like Valenti just fine as a "confused member". Kinda got a good ring to it, doesn't it? Ya'll better be glad I ain't the boss HEEHAW Chief

[Chief]

Like your avatar. Two bucks in Arizona for gas? And us Texans thought 1.60 was bad.. If we do go to war, at least we ought to come away with a few of the oil wells...

[southerner32]

I lived in British Columbia, Vancouver and to the guy in United States with me "That was one kick ass place where I had alot of fun ". I from Southern Louisiana and proud of it , But I have family in Canada ,Holland , & London . I like every place & can't wait to go back & visit.

P.S. , I drunk enough beer in Canada to biuld a beer & wine store over there . One of my buddies use to make his own ,over 6%. :-)

[Chief]

I was wondering if we'd get a "Ragin' Cajun" in here! Oh, boy, 4x4, Valenti, GTG, the rest of you Canucks- now's your chance...Welcome, Southerner32, Hang on... Chief

[4x4]

Chief

You are what Grandpa says " a real piece of work "

4x :D

[Chief]

4x, I'm a real piece of something. I would have liked your Grandpa, If I'd met him years ago I'd probably be up there sippin' on those LaBatts of yours :) Chief

[valenti]

Makin 6% beer...we call that Mother's Milk here in Canada. Hell...the girl guides up here don't even drink beer that weak.

Welcome Southerner32, now you come over here and offer Mama a little comfort. I'll put on a clean diaper for you.

Oh yaaah...I talk big.

CM valenti

[Chief]

Valenti, sweetie, you make us southern boys feel sooooo good..
hope you're ready for Win 5.4. I got a feeling we're gonna have some "splainin" to do :D Chief

[southerner32]

I here you , I just got back from a party on the bayou side . What's happening ya'll ??:-)

[Chief]

Well, plenty. Check out the posts on the new Win 5.4 format- that ought to give you something to stew over for a while :D Chief

[southerner32]

Were going to take to that program like a fish to water . :-) hahaha

[4x4]

It works fine with XP !!

4x

[t160hq]

First off credit where credit is due. The post that started this thread
was from This Hour Has 22 Minutes CBC Television by Rick Mercer. A little over a year ago. Not flaming I just liked the bit and thought he should get credit.

As to the war in my opinion it is necessary. Not for any of
the reasons the media or government is giving us. Weapons of mass destruction and combating terrorism or bringing freedom to the Iraqi people are just being used to justify the invasion.

A quasi believable excuse to gain what we really need to solve
Mid East problems.

We gain several things from this war with little or no downside. We are going up against a force that hasn’t been resupplied in over 12 years. Although any loss of life in war is tragic it will be minimal.

We gain two major bargaining chips and in my opinion these are what we are really going to war for.

First we gain control of the second largest oil reserve in the world. When you control production you control prices. If you have any doubt about that just look up OPEC and the gas shortages of the 70's.

Second we gain a base of operations in the center of the Middle East. We will be able to strike fast anywhere in the region that is giving trouble. The threat alone may be enough to keep the other Middle East nations in line. With military bases in Iraq we will be able to strike at the heart of terrorism. No asking for permission to use airbases, use of airspace. or even permission to carry out the raid.

As a bonus we get an economic boon. After destroying the Iraqi
infrastructure it will need to be rebuilt. With all that oil money and a government friendly to the US just who do you think is going to get all the business.

None of the countries dead set against the war were really upset about war without their approval. They just see the real truth and loss of the best customer they ever had. Especially France (sold billions in military hardware to Iraq for oil) and to a lessor extent Russia and Germany. All three of those countries economies relied on Iraqi oil money to balance the budget. After waiting 12 years for it to start flowing again they are understandable pissed off now that they would never see it.

t160hq
Wars are fought for gain. Moral convictions are how you convince people to fight to achieve those gains.

[Budreaux]

While I agree with you on some of your points, I don't agree totally with your opinion on France. France is just plain scared. Not scared of war, but scared of the info we re gonna get after we are done expelling Saddam. France has dealt with Iraq for years. Not all business was exactly, in the best interest of world peace. For instance, the nuclear reactor they sold Iraq, and said ity was to be used for a power source. 'm sorry, but a country sitting on top of that much oil only has one need fpr a nuclear reactor, an it isn't for energy. France sold them that nuclear reactor with not a care in the world for what they knew they were gonna use it for. However, if they were on Iraq's good side, they pressumaly had no worries. Well, regardless, France is a coward of a country and quite frankly, should shut the fuck up and accept what is gonna fall there way. Integrity should be the number 1 factor in determining a course of action. I fully support what is being done in Iraq. It needs to be done. Noone can truely say they are comfortable with the capabilities at a mad mans figertips. Saddam needs to die along with any humanbeing that is carrying an ounce of his DNA. He is a cancer on society and the world and should be erased. People are against Bush because he is the current president at the time this takes place. Stop and think what he has to loose by doing this. If Saddam somehow manages to stay in control thru all this, Bush's political carreer is over, no doubt about it. He is doing what needs to be done, regardless the consequences that may fall upon him. I am behind the man 110% and would glady go and off the somabitch myself.

Just my thought on the topic. I don't voice it too often, but I be damn if I stand by and let someone slander a man who is doing exactly what needs to be done.

Now back to my hacking.

[t160hq]

Slander? I never ment to slander anyone. I just disagree with the stated reasons for the war. I agree 100% with the war and back Bush in it as well as the troops. Like you I would like to be over there myself. I'd even bring my own gun and ammo. :-)

t160hq

[Chief]

I agree with the both of you..t160hq, I feel you are absolutely correct..but that's not bad, is it? Billions in business for US corporations, a Middle East power base in the event of future Saddams getting out of control, control over skyrocketing oil prices..some will see it as international meddling, I see it as common sense. But the administration sure as hell can't go to congress and the American public and run those ideas up the flagpole...the peaceniks and the Tom Daschles of this country would just go completely bullshit.
George Bush, right or wrong, has many personal reasons for taking out Hussein, and it's not all money-driven. Of course, one of the great things about the democracy of America is your right to disagree and speak out as you see fit. But COMMON SENSE would tell you when 300,000 troops' lives are on the line, we're in the middle of conflict (and it is going very well with minimal casualties) and even the Iraqi people are cheering in the street, that it's time to get behind our leader and behind America, and leave the speeches and partisan politics for another time. Remember, one of your freedoms as an American is to board a jet of your choosing and hit the bricks, if you're so dead set against America.
As to the French..they ain't as dumb as you think..As their leadership sees it, this is a great oppurtunity for them to exert themselves as leaders of the "New World Order". As far as humanitarian reasons for being against the war, they could give a damn less. Economic reasons, of course, but for a long time they've wanted to be at the EU's controls, and by their thinking, here's their shot at glory.....think I'll go slap the shit out of my Freedom Poodle :D

[Cimba]

Wheewie! I'm glad you boys are only funnin' here cause I'd hate to be in the way when your really pissed, glad you are takin' care of those that need someone pissed at them( like our misunderstood Eastern dictator types). Seems like the big issue up here is whether or not the ketchup on the fop fries is Heinz or not. Thanx for bein' good neighbours and ignore the Cretins running the politics here; they sure don't speak for me or most Canadians.
It's amazing here how the fringe elements ie: P.E.T.A.(People Each a Total Asswhole), anti-abortion, anti-meat, anti-gun, anti-sex, and anti-anything they don't understand including free thought, seem to be the centre of attention(sorta like a fart in a large empty bathroom, stinkin' noisy and non-productive).:eek:
Thanx for the brain food and forum for expression too.

[Chief]

Now there's a man (if you're a woman, please forgive) that's after my heart....LOVE the P.E.T.A thing - and thanks to our Canadian friends for being the good neighbors that they are, seriously.

[Cimba]

Did ya ever wonder why most real thinkers were always considered fringe elements and a threat to the state and society as a whole? Or why they are generally found in places like this that tend to gather Freaks(originals) to share ideas or to challenge the big $ that's behind all the monopolies(like Dave or MS)? Or why guys like Saddam and other less obvious wannabe kings hate countries who allow us to exist even if on the fringe?
Their frickin' scared of losin what isn't rightfully theirs, our minds, our hearts, and our GD hard earned $.

Or as Steppenwolf once sang: There's a monster on the loose, he's got our heads all in the noose, and still he keeps watchin' !!!
Nah, I ain't paranoid but I'm sure appreciate the chance to blow off some 60's generation frustration.;)

[t160hq]

There seems to be a small misunderstanding here. I support the war based on the reasons I mentioned. I think that justifies the war more than any reasons given by the government.

t160hq

[Chief]

Readin' ya loud and clear, t160hq.. oh..I see that US troops just raided a 100-acre chemical weapons factory in Iraq. Don't you believe it, Hans Blix said they didn't have any :rolleyes: Along with those scud missles that they didn't have, either :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[t160hq]

How much things have changed in a year.

Ready for the next big conspiracy theroy? lol

Turns out Iraq was in a lot worse shape then we expected. Gonna cost at least twice as much as expected to rebuild.

Plan was to use the oil revenue to rebuild Iraq. Good idea. Well it just was not going to bring in enough money fast enough to rebuild Iraq quickly enough. No problem the Saudi's helped us out at the beginning of the war by increasing production of oil to prevent a large spike in crude oil prices world wide.

But, that's just what we need right now to give us the money needed to rebuild iraq. Suddenly, the Saudi's are annoucing production cutbacks through OPEC.

I just love a good conspiracy theroy. Suppose Bush or Cheny just phoned them up or sent Powell to tell them on the mid east tour?

t160hq

[4x4]

This thread is well over a year old ..
A friend once said to me ( and I will get it right this time )

A dss forum is not the place for Politics, somebody always gets hurt ...

Closed

[Chief]

and I will get it right this time


Uh, Cappy - a year later, you still ain't got it right. :p

Polotics = Politics :rolleyes:

[4x4]

Hahahahahahahahahah !
Fuck Me ! :flipa: