How safe is it to buy testing hardware?

[boomhauer]

I remember the panic when dealers were getting raided and customer lists being siezed a few years ago. How safe is it now to buy stuff online? Wheres the safest place to buy locks? Thanks.

[SecurityRisk]

here.

[midwest]

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[SecurityRisk]

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[midwest]

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[boogieman]

I remember the panic when dealers were getting raided and customer lists being siezed a few years ago. How safe is it now to buy stuff online? Wheres the safest place to buy locks? Thanks.

For what it is worth here a scanned article from the Denver Post (pardon the numerous typographical errors, text recognition software is still failing when it comes to shabby newspaper prints).

While the article talks about a DirecTV customer, the overall context applies very well to all 'test equipment".
In a nutshell: you may buy the stuff, you may not use it and the sat company has to catch you red handed stealing their signal before they can win a trial.
In the world of Echostar receivers with different providers (BEV, DishNet,..) it is even more difficult for them to show that you were stealing their specific signals.

Hopefully good news for you.
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Here it goes:

In a court decision that could affect hundreds of TV piracy lawsuits in Colorado,
a federal judge has ruled DirecTV can’t .sue a Colorado Springs man for merely
possessing decoding equipment that can hijack satellite DirecTV signals.
NYSE U.S. District Judge Robert BlackBurn dismissed DirecTV’s illegal possession
clairn.in the case, ruling the federal wiretap law making it illegal to purchase
piracy equipment can’t be used In civil lawsuits.
“Basically, (the judge is saying) you can only go after these people criminally,
and only the U.S. attorney can do that,” said Jason Schultz, an attorney with the
Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group in San Francisco.
The ruling, the first in Colorado on the• issue, represents a big setback for
DirecTV’s mass litigation against Coloradans accused of stealing the satellite
TV company’s programming, said Schultz and an attorney for DirecTV defendant
Basillo Losoya, a Colorado Springs utility,worker.
“It’s huge. We’re ecstatic,” saki Bethany Johnson at Garlin
Driscol & Murray, a Louisville. firm that represents scores of other Colorado
defendants sued by DirectTV in Denver federal court. In the future it will be much
more difficult for DirecTV to prove its piracy claims in court or to negotiate
private settlements ; that typically have been costing defendants about $3,500
each, Johnson said. DirecTV will have to prove someone intercepted its signal
and that’s pretty hard to do,” Joinson said. “What they have is• pretty much all
circumstantial evidence.’
Blackburn, who is overseeing all of the DirecTV litigation in Colorado, didn’t
provide a written opinion in his July21 ruling.
But it mirrors a Florida federal appeals court decision in June that said
possession wasn’t grounds to sue and said the company’s interpretation Of the
law was “constitutiOnally problematic.”
Losoya, the colorado defendant, now has a motion pending to have the remaining
signal interception claim dismissed on groundls of insufficient evidence,
counterclaims against DirecTV, accusing the nation’s leading satelllte-TV
provider of abuse of process and filing a frivolous lawsuit.
DirecTV’s general counsel Chris Murphy insisted Friday the Colorado ruling
will have no practical effect on the company’s court efforts to recover damages.
“It will be harder to sue.. . but we have never filed a single case based solely on
a theory that the person possessed the device,” MUrphy said.
TÔ date, only one.DirecTV defendant Out of more than 200 in Colorado — has gone
to trial. That case ended with .a mixed verdict on July 1 in which both sides
claimed victory.
Nationanally, DirecTV. has suedmore than 24,000 people suspect&1 ~of
intercepting satellite programming without paying for it.DlrecTV sued Losoya
last year,alleging his name showed up on
purchase orders for two devicesat a Califomia mail-order company raided by
federal agents for selling illegal decoding equipment.
Losoya, who testffied in an affidavit thiat he’s never subscribed to satellite-TV,
admitted buying £he devices but said they were never installed.
He said he had intended to use the mall-order devices to boost
DirecTV’s Murphy said the potential ramifications of both theColorado and the Florida
appeals court rulings are beingover stated By defense attorneys. *And, I might add,
it’s stifi a crime to possess these devices,” Murphy said.

[Project2501]

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[BirdieMod]

I remember the panic when dealers were getting raided and customer lists being siezed a few years ago. How safe is it now to buy stuff online? Wheres the safest place to buy locks? Thanks.

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