ROM10 with NOMORE64-7 just got streamlocked

[B_Zarre]

It was in 7200 with mic lock. First PPV died but i didn't have time to put new PPV strings. Yesterday every channel said "No longer Available"
I checked the card and it's it says "BackDoor reported disable - Card may contain update"
How da hell did that happen ?

[gratis]

No problem here on 3 IRDs. Are you sure you applied the blocker? What rev does a NE Reset Card show? Did you try NE Remove Card Lock and enter your password? NOMORE64-7 spoofs rev A23 so that's what NE Reset Card should show.

[B_Zarre]

Yes - it's A23 and i know that Nomore64-7 spoofs revision.
I'm sure i applied the blocker as i usually do, otherwise how could it work for 3 weeks full of ECMs ? ;)
I tried my password as usual but it didn't work. So my guess is - it's streamlocked.
I might be wrong, but i can't get into the card.

[Trapofmind]

Are you using the default password? Cuz, it seems quite likely that Charlie knows it.

[B_Zarre]

No, of course not :)

[CRASHER]

Running strong (rom10+7100) here too, with all PPV

[nttcar]

No problem here on 3 IRDs. Are you sure you applied the blocker? What rev does a NE Reset Card show? Did you try NE Remove Card Lock and enter your password? NOMORE64-7 spoofs rev A23 so that's what NE Reset Card should show.

My card is spoof to A23, I do not know what is the pw to unlock, some one PM me

[Trapofmind]

Yes - it's A23 and i know that Nomore64-7 spoofs revision.
I'm sure i applied the blocker as i usually do, otherwise how could it work for 3 weeks full of ECMs ? ;)
I tried my password as usual but it didn't work. So my guess is - it's streamlocked.
I might be wrong, but i can't get into the card.

That blocker does lie to you when you try to unlock it. It gives you an error, when it really is unlocked. Did you try to clean if after unlocking it?

I have heard of a few people trying to remove the lock, getting the error, then thinking it’s still locked and putting it back into the stream really getting it locked, stream locked.

[OldTex]

Folks,

Just had a 7100 with mic lock, running rom3... get zapped. I have no idea, I was running TCFD's card blocker/locker. This is a locker similiar to checksumblocker, and is part of the nagra patch for the tiers.

I was watching TV and the channel went "You are not subscribed".. Unlocked the card with my password, but the card had it's backdoor disabled.

Looks like Chuck found a way into cards with these blockers... Seriously.

[kctats13]

Just like Trapofmind said this blocker does lie to you. After you unlock card it says bad password. Try to read card after you unlock and see if it works.

[dizmatic]

It was in 7200 with mic lock. First PPV died but i didn't have time to put new PPV strings. Yesterday every channel said "No longer Available"
I checked the card and it's it says "BackDoor reported disable - Card may contain update"
How da hell did that happen ?




Had the same thing happen here. Same blocker and same ird with mic lock. I quit using this blocker since then because i know i did everything right been doing this for 2 yrs. So i advise to stay away from this blocker.

[Trapofmind]

I have been using “this blocker” since July.
I have put it on about a dozen IRDs of all types with various ROM types and revs: It works perfectly.

[OldTex]

Just like Trapofmind said this blocker does lie to you. After you unlock card it says bad password. Try to read card after you unlock and see if it works.

Reread my post - the error message on screen was "You are not subscribed"... which usually means that tier expired.. I had programmed the card only 30 minutes earlier. Then the card was streamlocked. Nothing I do opens it, including giving it my password several times. It won't read. Backdoor is closed.

So - the blocker was bypassed. I did not use the default password.

Anyway - this is why I try not to use plastic at all. Magic Card or Atmega.

[Crazy1_79]

Plastic definately has risks with dish testing. The only way around this is to have backup cards. I know a guy in my town that I've gotten 5 or 6 cards from, (I have been lucky and not have lost one) But I also bought Mili's private blocker and now I sleep easier at night, he guarantees nothing but if you look at his pb track record you will find that he survived the June 10 rom 3 looping. I have 6 people running with mili's private blocker so I split the cost with them and I use it too. I also have a rom 2 that doesn't need a blocker and during this last parity key change, it was the only thing up and running, since it has no blocker it mimics a real card almost too a t. That is the positive side of plastic. I only use my rom 2 for backup however.

[Trapofmind]

I know how this sounds and I don’t mean anything by it:

I have never had a card steam locked on accident. I’ve tested just about every IRD and ROM type combination without any failures by the blocker of this manner.

I am not saying anything about anyone else; I am just saying this is my experience.

[OldTex]

I only know this, after 5 years of testing both systems, nothing happens to a card by accident. Both systems can kill off any card at any time. Dave was always messing with us. Chuck is taking over that honor.

Now - either the blocker wasn't applied corectly, or Chuck found a kink and got into it. This happens. This is also why it's rare to find me using anything but emulation devices (Atmega, MC)

[kctats13]

Same here. Ive used this blocker on several cards without any problems. Ive heard of alot of people getting their cards streamlocked by not properly applying blockers. I always reset ATR in nagra to check the Rev before putting it in the stream. Its easy to forget to apply patch in nagra, then put it in the stream and it locks up.