Trouble getting anything with EMU

[colt-45]

I'm new to dish, old to DTV, so still learning. Would appreciate advice on what I'm missing on this!

Here's what I've done.
Made jTag, used jKeys to get box keys and save TSOP
Made one chip emulator, and flashed chip accordingly.
Hard wired emu into my 2700 IRD
Have gotten copies of cemu72c2 and yvousemudish1.4
on cemu, I used YATM to create tiers, then used nagra edit to patch my dish.bin
also changed the box keys, ird #, etc. in NE, then saved the new bin.
For yvousemu I used NE to edit keys, ird #, etc in dish.bin

So on both setups, I only getting 101, 480, 490, and 900's and 6000's music channels. Everything seams to be "working", just no channels available.

So where do I go from here????? I'm now lost......

[BiggerBear]

The Cemu you have is old.I have been using Chinaman Dos emu,but I know there are newer Cemu's out.
The Yvous is old-the newest is Yvous3
Other sites you can go to are dsshelper, maestra and kickinchicken.
You may need to update the software on the receiver(look in the SYS INFO screen
for your software)I am not sure what the 2700 should be running.
Also double check your BoxKeys(your problem is usually BoxKeys)when entering them use the number key not the letter key.
To update the software all you need to do is Erase the SA5 sector(5 times with Jkeys)and let the Date Stream update it.It is the "Easy Ecm Repair"and also will force a software update. I have posted instructions many times

[colt-45]

The Cemu you have is old.I have been using Chinaman Dos emu,but I know there are newer Cemu's out.
The Yvous is old-the newest is Yvous3
Other sites you can go to are dsshelper, maestra and kickinchicken.
You may need to update the software on the receiver(look in the SYS INFO screen
for your software)I am not sure what the 2700 should be running.
Also double check your BoxKeys(your problem is usually BoxKeys)when entering them use the number key not the letter key.
To update the software all you need to do is Erase the SA5 sector(5 times with Jkeys)and let the Date Stream update it.It is the "Easy Ecm Repair"and also will force a software update. I have posted instructions many times
Thanks
I will look for newer version of emu.
On the boxkeys, don't understand what you mean by "use the number key not the letter key"??? It's a hex value so it's going to have A-F in it????
So do you think this IRD has been ECM'ed?
Thanks for all the help!

[BiggerBear]

Mabe not ECM'd but the same procedure is used to both Repair an ECM as to
Force the receiver to update.
Sometimes BoxKeys have 0's in them(then you would use the number key)

[colt-45]

My s/w version is 766PCASv-N
Is that one that needs updating?

[BiggerBear]

It could be-I may be wrong, but the last time I ran a 2800(2700 may be the same) it was at 797.
Do the update and check it to see what you get. Print these instructions and DO IT
This is part of Emulating - If you get ECM'd this is how you FIX IT.

To Update SoftWare follow these steps:It is also used for ECM repair!
Plug receiver into outlet and power off on the receiver itself -
1- Have dummy card in the card slot(leave dummuy card in until the update is finished)and Open JKeys
2- jkeys will detect your box keys and ird number
3- click on flash programming, remove power, reconnect and click on OK in 3 seconds(301-010 receivers do not require the reconnect)
4-(Skip this if you already have a backup of TSOP) in the next screen, in FULL, click READ and save a dump of your tsop
5- click on the arrow near FULL, there you will find the sectors or SA, select the one that correspond to your ird's model:
2700 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
2800 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
3700 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
3800 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
3900 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
4700 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
4900 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
301.010 = address SA3 or SA 8 flash1(2x2 tsops)
301.013 = address SA18 flash2(2x2 tsops)
301.013 = address SA50 (1x4 tsop) jkeys2.9.9b
501/508 = address SA54 or SA52 (2x4 tsops) P168 firmware is SA60 in Flash2
6- click on ERASE 5 times or more
7- close jkeys, connect the ird to the satellite feed with the cam(dummy card) and wait 15 to 20 minutes
8- LED will go out when update is finished.

[colt-45]

Thanks, I'll do the update. When you say dummy card, do you mean anything in the slot so it get power? Or do I need a real cam to place in there? If real, can I use my emu setup for the cam?

Sorry if these are dumb questions!

[BiggerBear]

YES any card turned backward or upside down!!!!
What do you put in when trying to Emulate with the 1 Chip you built?

[colt-45]

YES any card turned backward or upside down!!!!
What do you put in when trying to Emulate with the 1 Chip you built?
Yes I used an old dave card upside down. I figured that was what you meant, so I did the update and now I'm at 797. I'm getting closer! I now see all the channels but when I select one it tells me my smart card does not have authorization.....

I used yatm9m to create my teirs and such, then patched with nagra4.1 So now what?

[BiggerBear]

You should try Yvous3 and don't change the bin at all. Yvous3 uses the INI file
for Tiers. Yvous3 gets most channels the way it is. Just add your setup Information to the INI file(BoxKeys,IRD number,CamID(must be the same Rom as the program Yvous3 is Rom3). You will need to update the PPV string. I have seen PPV strings posted on some sites.
What Emu program are you using now?
Are you pointed at both DishNet Sats?110 and 119.
If you want to make your own Tiers this is what I do-I delete every thing below the dish383.bin that's in the INI File.Then copy the dish383.bin from yvous3 and patch you Tiers to it. When you go to put it in Yvous you will be ask to overwright
the other bin.

[colt-45]

You should try Yvous3 and don't change the bin at all. Yvous3 uses the INI file
for Tiers. Yvous3 gets most channels the way it is. Just add your setup Information to the INI file(BoxKeys,IRD number,CamID(must be the same Rom as the program Yvous3 is Rom3). You will need to update the PPV string. I have seen PPV strings posted on some sites.
What Emu program are you using now?
Are you pointed at both DishNet Sats?110 and 119.
If you want to make your own Tiers this is what I do-I delete every thing below the dish383.bin that's in the INI File.Then copy the dish383.bin from yvous3 and patch you Tiers to it. When you go to put it in Yvous you will be ask to overwright
the other bin.
I'm using cwmu 72c2a
Pointing at 119 only, don't have a 500 or sw21 yet.
I downloaded what was called Yvous3 but inside the zip was 1.3b, is that correct?
I will keep looking for newer versions, thanks

[FreshManDTV]

There's an Yvous3 in the echostar files. I just download it and it works quite well. It's the one that said final version. There's another post with posted all the PPV string in the emulation forum. Read around, you'll see it. Everything works good so far.

[colt-45]

There's an Yvous3 in the echostar files. I just download it and it works quite well. It's the one that said final version. There's another post with posted all the PPV string in the emulation forum. Read around, you'll see it. Everything works good so far.
Guys,

Thanks a million for all the help. Look like everything is working. Now all I need is to get pointing at the 110 sat also! So how often do you need to update the PPV strings, and how is this accomplished - besides just gleening it off these forums
:)

Thanks again for all the help!

[FreshManDTV]

Glad to see it's working for you. Yeah, making your own PPV string is the only way to go. Look at the sticky post in one of the ROM forum title something like "How to make your own PPV string..." It'll help you understand the about the PPV string. Most of the time, you can just use existence string and change the Low and Hi ID. Expiration day, current event are the other two that need to change once a while.

[BiggerBear]

I don't know how old "cemu 72c2a" is, but if you get ECM'd it may that it is one of the older versions that were hit. I looked at that Cemu in the files here and it is from Last November(don't think it's going to last for you.If you get Ecm'd just do the SA sector erase again and try a newer Emu Program.
Where did you get it? Is it a Dos version?

[bOZZ]

I don't know how old "cemu 72c2a" is, but if you get ECM'd it may that it is one of the older versions that were hit. I looked at that Cemu in the files here and it is from Last November(don't think it's going to last for you.If you get Ecm'd just do the SA sector erase again and try a newer Emu Program.
Where did you get it? Is it a Dos version?

Latest for dish ... cemu 9.0 ( Steeledan ) for dos
if you are upgrading there are some changes from 72c2a ...
cemu.ini uses a different format .. ie: port 1 and not the old way port=1
ird# , cam#, zip in dec. and not hex. format ....
settings in the cemu.ini file over-ride the ones in side eeprom.bin (dish.bin)
good for rom3, 10 , 11 emu ( depending on the bin files )

if you patch your dish.bin file with the PK0 fix ... you will be good to go ...

[running cemu9.0 / AVR6-3 / PII 233 / 2700 converted / dish500 ,119.110]

[himeros]

I am hoping Mr. B. B. or someone that knows how, could make an up to date S. B. S on updating and adding strings using the miniRTM and Nagaedit programs. That seems to be two great programs for updating the PPV's and adding strings. Even a fool like myself finally make it through using an outdated "how to" with those two programs. Yes the 2700 and 2800 with the updates will be at 797P, at least mine are. I have used the latest Cemu, works with either boot from Dos or drop to Dos, but using YvousEmu 3 and it's working perfect. Good luck

Himeros :)

[colt-45]

Glad to see it's working for you. Yeah, making your own PPV string is the only way to go. Look at the sticky post in one of the ROM forum title something like "How to make your own PPV string..." It'll help you understand the about the PPV string. Most of the time, you can just use existence string and change the Low and Hi ID. Expiration day, current event are the other two that need to change once a while.
One more thing....does having these PPV stings in your ini file make you more susceptible to ECMs?

[colt-45]

I don't know how old "cemu 72c2a" is, but if you get ECM'd it may that it is one of the older versions that were hit. I looked at that Cemu in the files here and it is from Last November(don't think it's going to last for you.If you get Ecm'd just do the SA sector erase again and try a newer Emu Program.
Where did you get it? Is it a Dos version?
I got it here, and it is DOS. I would prefer a DOS emu rather than the windows course.... just simpler since I am running on a small laptop that I could take the HD out of and just run off a floppy.

[colt-45]

Latest for dish ... cemu 9.0 ( Steeledan ) for dos
if you are upgrading there are some changes from 72c2a ...
cemu.ini uses a different format .. ie: port 1 and not the old way port=1
ird# , cam#, zip in dec. and not hex. format ....
settings in the cemu.ini file over-ride the ones in side eeprom.bin (dish.bin)
good for rom3, 10 , 11 emu ( depending on the bin files )

if you patch your dish.bin file with the PK0 fix ... you will be good to go ...

[running cemu9.0 / AVR6-3 / PII 233 / 2700 converted / dish500 ,119.110]
Thanks, I found Steeledan and will give it a try. I'll also try to figure out how to do the PK0 patch - I'm new to this.

[colt-45]

I have another question. Even thought everything is working, I do get errors pop up on the PC saying something like "...did not receive a response in time..." sorry I can't remember the exact error and I'm not home right now. But doe's anyone know what is causing this. I was suspecting my PC was too slow since it's an old 486 laptop, maybe it's just not fast enoguht to keep up with the requests???

[himeros]

What speed do you have your serial port set to??

Himeros

[BiggerBear]

colt-45
The 486 is borderline. You can get old computers so cheap.
I would buy another computer and load Windows98 on it.
That way you can run Yvous if needed. I use a 166mhz 64ram.
And it runs 2 receivers with Yvous. You can still run Cemu,but
will have the option to try Yvous.

[colt-45]

What speed do you have your serial port set to??

Himeros
115200

[colt-45]

colt-45
The 486 is borderline. You can get old computers so cheap.
I would buy another computer and load Windows98 on it.
That way you can run Yvous if needed. I use a 166mhz 64ram.
And it runs 2 receivers with Yvous. You can still run Cemu,but
will have the option to try Yvous.
I figured. This one was free, it's small, quite and does not create a lot of heat, so it fits in my cabinet real well. I will probably be moving everything to a remote location where I can run emu on my server in the closet. Thanks

[BiggerBear]

I would make sure you put the computer someplace that gets
fresh air. A closet is not a good place, unless it has ventilation.
Also go into the Bios and see if any power saving options are on.
I clean the contacts on the Ram Memory with alcohol pads(rub gently
and make sure they are dry before reinstalling)
A little more Ram Memory may help.

[colt-45]

I would make sure you put the computer someplace that gets
fresh air. A closet is not a good place, unless it has ventilation.
Also go into the Bios and see if any power saving options are on.
I clean the contacts on the Ram Memory with alcohol pads(rub gently
and make sure they are dry before reinstalling)
A little more Ram Memory may help.
Cool. I have a walk-in closet that I'm using for a wiring closet. I have good ventilation in there so that's why I want to move the "hot" equipment in there. I am also running a PC based PVR that cooks my TV/stereo cabinet (I have to leave the doors open cuz my cooling in the cabinet is not adequate). That will be going into the wiring closet also. Thanks again for all your help.