3 dish setup w/legacy ird?

[BirdieMod]

You can only run 1 of each type switch model.
121 has a weaker signal so harder to receive.
Options are
Dish 500 legecy( Non DP) with built in sw, Then tie in 121 with your sw21
Or a sw64, This requires all lnb's to be dual output. It will drive 4 receivers though.

[Crazy1_79]

There is also a switch called the sw21x switch. Do a search for them on ebay and you will find several for under 20 bucks and that includes shipping. These are used to add a third bird to a existing sw21 switch. A diagram was included with the one I got. Then if you decide you don't want to use three birds, you can also use the 21x as a regular sw21 too.

[Crazy1_79]

Whoa! This is exactly what I'm looking for.. Now, I won't need that funky Dishpro adapter right ... or will I?
no, you will not, the sw 21 and sw 21x switch are both legacy and should work just fine with your 18 inch dishes. But like birdie said the 121 is a harder bird to hit and I hope your 18 inch dish will give you the reception you will need on that bird. a larger dish (old primestar dish) may be required. Or the super dish.

[BirdieMod]

You got it, Just make sure the dish 500 is the one piece lnb head non dp series and hook it up like you posted, Check switch will say sw21 3 sat location then. I run a bunch like this and it works good. For the single 121 if you only want 1 ird a single output lnb works fine. If you want to add a second ird then a second sw21 with the second output from 121 dish would add it in.

[Crazy1_79]

The diagram looks something like that. I am not very good with schematics but I hope you get the picture. your two dish 300's (110,119) go into the sw21 switch, the sw21 switch to receiver connection goes to dish two on the sw 21x swich why the 121 sattelite goes into dish one of the sw 21x swich, then the out to receiver connection on the sw 21x goes to the receiver.

[normsbro]

doesn't it go signal from 119 and 110 combined with the sw21 switch and then the output from that combined with the 18" dish pointed at 121 with the sw21x then into your ird?????

[Crazy1_79]

shit that is not how that diagram looked when I made it for you. Sorry bro, first time I ever tried to make a diagram,, it wrapped my text or parsed it or something.

[Crazy1_79]

no problem, never actually got around around to adding the third dish after I got the damn switch, just thought that someway I may need one or want to play around. do I ran across one and learned alittle bit about them. Hope all goes well for you.

[Crazy1_79]

maybe it won't work for the 121, sorry to waste your time, I thought it would. Birdie, do you have any idea why this won't work for the 121? What could be the difference in reference to the switch detecting signal from the IRD in accordance with what sattelite it would be on?

[Crazy1_79]

I ran into birdie in another section of the forum, we are discussing it right now. He says that you will probally need a bigger dish becuase the 121 is a weak signal to start with. But I am still waiting for him to get back to me on whether or not the switch will work.

[iwantfreetv]

I was just trying to set up 121 today. It is a very weak signal. You need a FSS type LNB and in Canada you need a 30" dish. The sw21x will work with it.

[iwantfreetv]

The super dish is a great way to go, if you are far enough south. As I and others have said, 121 is a very weak signal. You wont get it in Canada without a 30" dish. I believe FSS is a linear LNB, similar to FTA and Starchoice.

[iwantfreetv]

NY is pretty far north I think. The superdish is also for the 105 satellite. Make sure you get the right one. I live on the Canada US border in the west and I know we need a 30" dish here. The east coast may be different, but I doubt it. if it is the international channels you are looking for, I would go for the 61.5 or the 148. far better signal. Not trying to talk you out of anything, just trying to talk you into a good alternative. I install alot of dishes and this isnt something I deal with alot. Most just want the 2 sats.

[t160hq]

You need a superdish for the simplest installation. For 121 you have to get a 121 superdish. There are two types and they are not interchangable. Yes as mentioned 121 uses a FSS type lnb. Basically the bird your getting 121 from uses different freq's then standard dish fare.

You next problem is the switch. Superdish's come with a DP34 switch. It won't work without a legacy adaptor for each legacy receiver hooked up. The DP34 can be hooked up to 4 receivers.

I can't confirm as I haven't tried it but you should be able to cascade two SW21's (one 21 one a 21X) to make it work. As in a standard three sat hookup for 61.5 or 148 as the third sat.

Also if you can find a old primestar dish they used the FSS LNB and should work for the 121 sat. It was a 30" dish as well so will give enough signal.

t160hq

[iwantfreetv]

Hmm.. No, I'm not looking for international, I'd really like to pick up my locals which are on 121. Maybe to be safe I should get a 30" dish with the sw21x?

EDIT::
Is THIS (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61386&item=5720697313&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) the dish I would need?

I am not an expert on the FTA dishes. I think that is the right LNB, but I wont say "yes" unless I am 100%. in response to the last post, Yes, you can cascade a SW21 as long as 1 or both are SW21X. The check switch will come up as "unknown" or "sw21" but you will have the channels. Just check the "superdish3" box. If you want a 30" dish, PM me and I will set you up with the right one.

[SatJumper]

Can anyone tell me if the 105 deg Sat is east or west of 110 Deg Sat ??

Im using a Dish 500 D/P running it into a Dish Pro Adaptor then splitting off to a SW-21 going into a 3900 Receiver....but just can't seem to find the bloody 105 BIRD !!!!

Any help would be GREAT !!

Thanks Guys !!