Dish 500 LNB Question

[slac65]

Here is what is puzzling me. When looking at a Dish 500 from the front. The left LNB is labeled as 110 West on the side. The right LNB is labeled 119 West on its side. My question is this. If the 119 West is 10 degees further west and 5 degrees lower in elevation, then why is the dish skewed to the left so that the 110 West LNB is angled lower and to the right? Shouldn't be the other way around? Shouldn't the 119 West be on the left side. The only logical explaination would be that the LNB's are pointed in a criss-cross direction on the dish. In othe words the 110 west on the left is point upwards to the right and the 119 West on the right is pointing down and to the left. Does this make any sense at all. I'm able to find 110 west signal but never the 119? Any clarification of this would help me greatly in finding the other signal.

[Got A BooBoo]

Here is what is puzzling me. When looking at a Dish 500 from the front. The left LNB is labeled as 110 West on the side. The right LNB is labeled 119 West on its side. My question is this. If the 119 West is 10 degees further west and 5 degrees lower in elevation, then why is the dish skewed to the left so that the 110 West LNB is angled lower and to the right? Shouldn't be the other way around? Shouldn't the 119 West be on the left side. The only logical explaination would be that the LNB's are pointed in a criss-cross direction on the dish. In othe words the 110 west on the left is point upwards to the right and the 119 West on the right is pointing down and to the left. Does this make any sense at all. I'm able to find 110 west signal but never the 119? Any clarification of this would help me greatly in finding the other signal.


The angle of the dish reflests the signal from the sat. So the 110 is in the middle stationed, as you skew the dish the 119 raises up on the right side, thus catching the signal from the sat on the bottom left of the pan and bouncing into the 119 LNB. Also make sure you are using transponder 11 to find your signal on both birds.

Hope this shed's some light.

[slac65]

The angle of the dish reflests the signal from the sat. So the 110 is in the middle stationed, as you skew the dish the 119 raises up on the right side, thus catching the signal from the sat on the bottom left of the pan and bouncing into the 119 LNB. Also make sure you are using transponder 11 to find your signal on both birds.

Hope this shed's some light.

Which signal should I find first? If I look for 110 first should I do it without skewing the dish?

[Got A BooBoo]

Which signal should I find first? If I look for 110 first should I do it without skewing the dish?

Yep find the 110 first with the skew set to 90 make sure the transponder is at 11. Once you find the 110, skew the dish so when your facing the dish the 119 starts to rise on the right. I don't now what area you are in so I can't give you the exact angles. go to www.dishkabron.com for an idea. If you are north of the border the skew is around 70 - 65 (locations vary)

Hope it helps. Remember using transponder 11 to measure the signals for both sats.

Let me know the outcome.

[slac65]

Yep find the 110 first with the skew set to 90 make sure the transponder is at 11. Once you find the 110, skew the dish so when your facing the dish the 119 starts to rise on the right. I don't now what area you are in so I can't give you the exact angles. go to www.dishkabron.com for an idea. If you are north of the border the skew is around 70 - 65 (locations vary)

Hope it helps. Remember using transponder 11 to measure the signals for both sats.

Let me know the outcome.

There must some incompatibility with my 2700 receiver and my dish 500 because it is telling me to skew to 119 degrees which is in the oposite direction. I'm in the 48000 zip code area. I've noticed that my receiver does not have a Dish 500 check box on the setup screen like some other receivers do.

[Got A BooBoo]

Okay do you have a dish 300 hundred setting in the menu screen? See I had trouble setting up the 2 I too went skewed the dish that way but after lots of testing I went the other way and viola I got the bird. Also the sats are 9 degrees apart, and yes 5 degrees of on the vertical.
Try setting the guide to a dish 300 setting if you have and skew the dish to somewhere between 85 - 60 see what happens. remember use transponder 11 for both birds.

let me know

[Got A BooBoo]

Sorry the its www.dishkbron.com also your angle should 39 degrees on the vertical for the 110 and 34 for the 119 git it a go and see.

[slac65]

Okay do you have a dish 300 hundred setting in the menu screen? See I had trouble setting up the 2 I too went skewed the dish that way but after lots of testing I went the other way and viola I got the bird. Also the sats are 9 degrees apart, and yes 5 degrees of on the vertical.
Try setting the guide to a dish 300 setting if you have and skew the dish to somewhere between 85 - 60 see what happens. remember use transponder 11 for both birds.

let me know

I know something does not make sense because others that I have seen are skewed to the left and my receiver is telling me to skew right. So, I should find 110 by plugging the cable directly in the receiver without SW21 and find 110. Once I find 110 should I disconnect and plug in 119 into the receiver and try and find 119 then plug both into switch?

[BirdieMod]

It is possible to be off and catch the wrong sat with the wrong lnb, Then never being able to get the second sat. Get sat 119 tuned in first with it set for transponder 11. Then cover the 110 lnb, If you lose signal you are way off yet.

[Got A BooBoo]

Okay first off the ones skewed the other way might be pointing at the BELL birds. Second yes do exactly that find the 110 using transponder 11, then connect the 119 lead and skew the dish till you get it. I know its a lot of work, but worth it.

Let me know

[Got A BooBoo]

Yes that is true BirdieMod I never considered that.
Slac65 make sure the leads from the LNB coinside with the spigets on the SW21. But than again if you are going to do it indiviualy connect the 119 to sat 1 and 110 to sat 2 on the SW21

[BirdieMod]

Good to take a level to the mast first also, Make sure it is plumb, Or all the settings are useless. Remember the lnb's are catching reflections off the dish, So the reflected angles come into play.

[slac65]

Now, let me clarify this. I get 110 first without the SW21. Once I find it disconnect it and plug in 119 to receiver and skew dish and find signal. After both signals are found then plug 110 lnb to number 2 on SW21 and 119 to number 1 on SW21. Is it better to find 119 first?

[Got A BooBoo]

Yep!!! Eazy'er to find 110 then 119.
Talk about hitting the nail on the head.

[slac65]

Yep!!! Eazy'er to find 110 then 119.
Talk about hitting the nail on the head.
Thanks

Can I check back with you if I get it to work?

slac65

[Got A BooBoo]

Thanks

Can I check back with you if I get it to work?

slac65


Yes. I'd like to know just to be informed.

Got A BooBoo

[slac65]

Yes. I'd like to know just to be informed.

Got A BooBoo
One last thing. I can't figure out why using the azimuth and elevation calculator on dish network's site shows a skew of 119 in the 48000 area code. The skew should be in the 70-80 range.

[BirdieMod]

Az 227, elevation 31, skew 119 is correct.

[Got A BooBoo]

I'm not really sure you have 2 scenario's so try them both
I believe it is for the 110
BirdieMod says: AZ 227, Elev 31 skew 119
I say: Az 217, Elev 34-36, skew 70 for the 119 bird

Let us know I'm curious because my mapping was different from the site.

[BirdieMod]

I ran it on the Zipcode 32 program. I never heard of skew 70-80 for dishnet, Always been over 100 in the USA.

[Got A BooBoo]

I'm sorry BirdieMod, I'm not doubting your knowledge far from that.

The dish I have is an oval noname brand that can hook up 3 sats. The print on the back for the skew could be different from yours. I'm just basing it on mine which is skewed at 70. That is why I'd like to know his outcome just to be informed.

[BirdieMod]

Makes sense, Prob a generic dtv type that needs dif settings. Got it.
:)

[slac65]

Makes sense, Prob a generic dtv type that needs dif settings. Got it.
:)
I will try it tonite. However, the few that I have seen in my neighbourhood are slightly skewed to the left. So, the 70 sounds right. If I skew it 119 like it says then it would be skewed far to the right. I'm going by the scale and the notch mark on the back of the Dish 500.

I will let you know tomorrow after I try tonite.

Thanks for all your help.

[Got A BooBoo]

Look forward to the result.