View Full Version : Penga unlocker responses, am I on the right track?
csalmon
10-07-2004, 04:08 PM
I finished the mod to my mikobu III rev B last night and it seems to be working but I have yet to pop my rom10 A23. I worked with it for a while trying to vary the pot slightly, the VCCStart, and VCCLimit values but have not gotten into my card yet. The typical responses from the card are groups of FFF's with an occasional 6F or RESET. Are these what I am supposed to get while glitching? It seems if I have the VCC numbers lower, I get more RESET's and with higher VCC numbers I get more 6F's. Any help is appreciated.
satmanII
10-07-2004, 04:13 PM
set the pot between 1.8 and 2.5 area - and play with the VCC - I have great success with 16 and 06 for a23 cards.... the a81s are a bit more challenging....
csalmon
10-07-2004, 07:08 PM
Thanks, I will give these a shot tonight also.
access1
10-23-2004, 10:33 PM
30 and 13 worked for me on a modded mikIII. thing is though that the script tells me it open but when i check it in nagra its not.
warrior_joe
10-24-2004, 02:39 AM
havent had any luck with a rom3 yet.....
just :
try to hit 0C bug at 10A7 --
O6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6 FO6FO6FO6FO6F
--- try to hit 0C bug at 10A8 --
O6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6 FO6FO6FO6FO6F
--- try to hit 0C bug at 10A0 --
O6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6 FO6FO6FO6FO6F
--- try to hit 0C bug at 10A1 --
O6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO6FO
for 16 hours...changed the resistor to a trimmer..adjusted vcc and still tryin
u wont uness u get some ffs in there move your vcc down u need about a 60-40 mixtures of 6fs and ffs
coolwind
10-24-2004, 04:12 AM
If your using a T 911 Loader make sure that switch 1 & 5 only are on & you do need a better mix on it the 60 40 is proper No 0 need to be their
Coolwind
warrior_joe
10-24-2004, 04:26 AM
i am using a mik3 and trying to unlock a rom3
farmboy491
10-26-2004, 06:37 PM
Below are results from testing different Switch configurations on the Same Rom10 RevA23 using a Mod'd Absolute1 Premier.
I had tried popping the card for days running suggested swithes 1 & 5 and was getting good mix of 6f's and ff's but never could get the card to pop. I used Anarky's program and did hit a bug twice, but card would not open. I let run using every imaginable Vcc and delay with no go.
So I decided to use Slickvguys Vccanalyzer-2 program and start plotting %6f Versus Vcc and compare with a cards popability. I have looked at other peoples results as well and have came to a pretty clear conclusion.
While it appears that some cards just want to pop, others are stubborn such as the one I show and require a nice smooth Response to Vcc as shown in Green. If you Vcc / %6f response appears as the one in red and you card is Stubborn, you will probably be spending days of glitching with no popping.
If you have one of these stubborn cards, Start by plotting results from VcAnalyzer2 (%6f vs Vcc) and you will see the trend for the card at a given switch setting and Vcc range. Now change your switches (1 at time) and run and plot again) compare your curves. Smoother? less Vcc increments between 100 and 0%6F, steeper slope? Good. You are on the right track. Try the following comb. of swithes (+clk, +clk/2 & +clk&+clk/2 whatever switch no's those are on your loader) Compare all three curves. Now try -clk, -clk/2, and both -clk&-clk/2 together. Compare those curves. Pic the smoothest most uniform curve with the steepest slope and fewest Vcc increments from top to bottom. Now try to pop it. If you can get a response that looks like the one in green. Go Get Em cuz I bet it will pop now.
Each time you change switches, you will have to vary the Vcc start / end of Vcanlyzer script to bracket the 100%6F and 0%-6F.
Once again, Results below are for One Rom10RevA23 Card Using a Mod'd Absolute1 premier. All I have done is change switch configs to achieve a good curve. (Pins 1,4,6 in my case, cuz running pins 1,5 (+clk) would NOT pop this card. It did pop quickly after achieving the green curve.
Hope this helps someone.
Crazy1_79
10-28-2004, 04:29 AM
do you ahve that analyzer program, can't seem to find it.
senator
10-28-2004, 06:11 AM
Below are results from testing different Switch configurations on the Same Rom10 RevA23 using a Mod'd Absolute1 Premier.
I had tried popping the card for days running suggested swithes 1 & 5 and was getting good mix of 6f's and ff's but never could get the card to pop. I used Anarky's program and did hit a bug twice, but card would not open. I let run using every imaginable Vcc and delay with no go.
So I decided to use Slickvguys Vccanalyzer-2 program and start plotting %6f Versus Vcc and compare with a cards popability. I have looked at other peoples results as well and have came to a pretty clear conclusion.
While it appears that some cards just want to pop, others are stubborn such as the one I show and require a nice smooth Response to Vcc as shown in Green. If you Vcc / %6f response appears as the one in red and you card is Stubborn, you will probably be spending days of glitching with no popping.
If you have one of these stubborn cards, Start by plotting results from VcAnalyzer2 (%6f vs Vcc) and you will see the trend for the card at a given switch setting and Vcc range. Now change your switches (1 at time) and run and plot again) compare your curves. Smoother? less Vcc increments between 100 and 0%6F, steeper slope? Good. You are on the right track. Try the following comb. of swithes (+clk, +clk/2 & +clk&+clk/2 whatever switch no's those are on your loader) Compare all three curves. Now try -clk, -clk/2, and both -clk&-clk/2 together. Compare those curves. Pic the smoothest most uniform curve with the steepest slope and fewest Vcc increments from top to bottom. Now try to pop it. If you can get a response that looks like the one in green. Go Get Em cuz I bet it will pop now.
Each time you change switches, you will have to vary the Vcc start / end of Vcanlyzer script to bracket the 100%6F and 0%-6F.
Once again, Results below are for One Rom10RevA23 Card Using a Mod'd Absolute1 premier. All I have done is change switch configs to achieve a good curve. (Pins 1,4,6 in my case, cuz running pins 1,5 (+clk) would NOT pop this card. It did pop quickly after achieving the green curve.
Hope this helps someone.
Farmboy....Im not sure that will ever help this newbie BUT I do like the colors....thanks
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