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badger213
11-11-2004, 04:52 PM
Can someone direct me to a good source for "how to-emulation testing"
Been searching with no success..... thanx in advance

himeros
11-12-2004, 04:59 AM
Now you are in the right section. What equipment if any do you have, we can start there.

Himeros :)

badger213
11-12-2004, 10:51 AM
first, thanx for your response himeros. What little I have read about this form of testing tells me that the only thing I do have is an extra computer. I'm currently testing w/plastic and want to learn about emulation. Do I need an Atmega card, interface device, ect ect? What software is working? What I'm seeking is some type of guide/sticky to get me started on what I need to purchase and what software is currently working.. As you can tell, I'm a real newbie here and have some pretty dumb questions to ask....

himeros
11-12-2004, 05:12 PM
You have the computer, some kind of receiver, blue card, some kind of ISO programmer? Not sure how much you know, so I will start from the beginning. Make or buy a Jtag if you don't have one, and jtag the receiver you are using now. You will need an interface card for the receiver you will be using, most like the Max\Mel board, you can build one for about $5.0 or buy one ready make for $35.00. You will need a cable from the IRD to the puter so they can take to each other. If you go with the internal emu board, you will still be able to use the card if you want. YvousEmu is one program that runs in win98 or higher for emu. You will need NagraEdit to edit your .bin file used with emu, and for making tiers miniRTM works really well. Read the post from Bear, on how to make your own tiers. Hope this gets you started.

Himeros

badger213
11-12-2004, 07:41 PM
You have the computer, some kind of receiver, blue card, some kind of ISO programmer? Not sure how much you know, so I will start from the beginning. Make or buy a Jtag if you don't have one, and jtag the receiver you are using now. You will need an interface card for the receiver you will be using, most like the Max\Mel board, you can build one for about $5.0 or buy one ready make for $35.00. You will need a cable from the IRD to the puter so they can take to each other. If you go with the internal emu board, you will still be able to use the card if you want. YvousEmu is one program that runs in win98 or higher for emu. You will need NagraEdit to edit your .bin file used with emu, and for making tiers miniRTM works really well. Read the post from Bear, on how to make your own tiers. Hope this gets you started.

Himeros

Thanx again himeros. If you go with the internal emu board, you will still be able to use the card if you want. So is what your saying is there is a choice btwn internal/external? Would that be internal to the puter? What type of cord btwn devices?

brabus
11-24-2004, 09:54 AM
External means you'll have a emu board sticking out of your receiver's card slot...like the good old Dave days. With internal, you solder the card to the board inside your receiver. Either way, you'll have a phone cable connecting the emu board to the computer through a com port...exactly how it was done back in the old days. If you're worried about a card sticking out of your receiver (that's how mine is and it's barely noticeable...you'd have to be looking for it to see it), go w/ the internal. If you're lazy/don't care, just do the external. A good place to look is satemu.xxx (replace with com). They have internal and external max/mel (the standard emu board type thing) setups. You'll need that programmer too (i.e. the package for $45US).

Brabus

FreshManDTV
11-25-2004, 12:41 AM
Just want to add that with internal max/mel, you have to do some soldering. If you don't want or can't do it, then go for the external board.

The good thing about internal board is there's less EMI and everything is hidden away.

himeros
11-25-2004, 03:48 AM
I like the internal, but for me soldering is not a problem. If you are not adept at soldering small wires onto small contacts, then the external is the way to go. The external should come with the wiring from the IRD to the puter. I am at a disavantage about the external one, and don't know if it has to be flashed or not, the internal does not need anything except to be installed. Some of the ones that are using the external Mel/Max would know about this. The good internal ones you can still use a card when you want, and of course the external ones you just unplug and use a card. When you get your EMU set up, you won't want to ever program or fool with a card again. Learn how to make tiers for YvousEmu, and watch several hundred channels, including PPV's XXX, all the sporting events without having to worry about stream locking your card or any of the other things Chuck likes to do with cards. Good luck and happy viewing.

Himeros :)

chumlee
11-25-2004, 04:40 AM
I have been using magic card but I need to have a back-up plan. Looks like it is EMU.Does anyone have a schematic or plans for a internal board that works best. I saw several and I do have one for a external. But would like to try a internal one.

Thanks Guys!!
Happy Thanksgiving All

Chumlee

badger213
11-25-2004, 07:22 AM
Thanx for the responses on EMU. I started testing about 2 &1/2 yrs ago with Dave. After about 3 months of being down every couple days, I subscribed to private scripts. I'm out of town alot and got tired of the old Lady calling me out of town and bitching bout "the tv's out again". So I started paying for scripts as I didn't have time to spend 2-3 hours a day looking for new fixes. These scripts were good for 30-40 days. Well, Dave is down so I started with dishnet and MC"s. Two &1/2 months and many,many hours later, and no TV for more than a couple days, so ,I started back again with private scripts/programming of Rom 3 & rom 10 cards (i know, I'm being lazy, but the truth is I don't have the time to keep up with MC's and the Bullshit with clone cards, locked cards, error 19's, programming alternatives, ect, ect). Well anyway, I'm subscribing to a service that has been up for the last month without any bullshit and want a backup in case they start goin down. From everything Iv'e read, EMU is the way to go and the least likely to get ECM'D. Have been reading everything I can and will eventually go this route. HOPEFULLY. Until then, I'm up and running with an old Mikobu III M6.2 programmer and no hassles. For the time I spend in the forums looking for fixes, it's cheap. PM me if your interested. NO, I'm not affiliated with them and this isn't advertising. Just an Alternative!!! This is the best forum out there and You Folks are Great..........

brabus
11-26-2004, 11:10 PM
You DO have to flash the chip on the external boards. That's what the programmer is for...it's very easy though, anyone could do it.

Brabus