Unable to emulate?? noob with problems

[ampapa]

I'm running internal emulation and have not been able to get this setup working. I'm hoping someone can shed some light and direction.

Stats:
301.10
software version: P155EAED-N
bootstrap: 13EBEAED
6' serial cable
P4 Windows XP
Cemu
ROM10

When running cemu after modifying running the setup the app runs fine and appears to wait for the IRD to get powered up but never progresses. When the IRD powers on and all I get is the information screen then it locks up until rebooted.

I tried downloading Yvous modified the ini and fired it up it also appeaed to wait then I powered up the IRD but got an error message "First byte is not 0x21" but I was never able to recreate that error?

Any help or thoughts would be great.

[dRaNo]

did you build the emu board yourself, or buy it? does a cam id show on the info screen when running cemu?

[ampapa]

I bought it, althought I'm not sure I should reveal the source? Let's say they are very knowledgeable in the emu world.


I'm not sure? Do you mean the ATR --- line?

I've got:

ROM version: 10
ROM file: rom10.bin
EEPROM file:dish.bin = c000 to dfff
ATR --- "series of numbers...."


Got to run to the office I'll check back.

Thanks,

[dRaNo]

the sys info screen on your receiver

[ampapa]

I'm not sure what you want? dRaNo.

[dRaNo]

when you start your emulator and look at the tv screen you will see the system information screen. do you see anything under cam id, or is it all zero's?

[ampapa]

Yes, CAM ID is all zero's except for the "S" prefix. "S0000000000-00"

[dRaNo]

sounds like it's a connection problem. some of the internal emulators require you shove something in the cardslot to hit the switch inside. if you soldered it in yourself double check your connections to your schematic.

[ampapa]

Is 6' to long on the serial cable?

What about software versions is there too old of a version emu won't work on?

[dRaNo]

6 feet is fine. let me double check make sure emu will work on your ird model.

[dRaNo]

emulation is working on the 301.010 but i've been reading that some are having problems using cardslot pin 1 for +5 volts. some same to use c35 to tap off of for the +5 volts.

[ampapa]

Yes, I am using c35 for 5v and gnd. This may sound stupid but my dish has not been aligned yet. Would that cause this problem? I would think that the emu would take place regardless?

Thanks,

[dRaNo]

You are correct, pulled my IRD out of stream and emu still communicated with card, wouldn't be a bad idea to align your dish though. The software on your IRD is old and would probably be good to update. don't quote me I think the 301s are on version 200 something now.

[ampapa]

I've still got a good/ not looped CAM so I'm heitant in using it to align the dish. So, I was hoping to get emu going then do the alignment. I'm kind of in a catch 22...

I read another post about someone getting fixed by upgrading the software ware? Is it possible to J-Tag it with newer software? would that be adviseable?

[dRaNo]

finding a dump with new software might be difficult. if your cam has a good blocker on it go ahead and use it, don't put it in without one or it'll streamlock.

[ampapa]

No, blocker on the card because of no programmer. So, although it's good it's no good to me? What does it get me for having a card not streamlocked?

In the cemu directory what bin files do I need if I'm going ROM10 and hwat should they be named?

[dRaNo]

if the card hasn't been in the stream after 1999 then you can read and write to it without unlocking it. if it's been in the stream after that then you need to send it to a dealer to unlock it (think they charge $10 or so) or get a modded unlooper (kinda pricey) and do it yourself.

[ampapa]

I'm more interested in emu that plastic.

I guess I'm still stuck on a hardware issue? and not sure what to check or test next?

How about the files needed in the cemu directory? aside from the program files which bin files do I need and what's the naming convention?

[dRaNo]

not to sure about cemu, I'm runnin yvous 3.0. Need to get one of the experts to field that one.

[ampapa]

Any ideas on the hardware?

[FreshManDTV]

Remember to put a dummy card in the slot. If you bought the emu board, you may have to flash it. If you have a board with switch (3 chips), you need to connect everything correctly for it to run.

The first thing is to make sure you get the the revision number on the sys info screen. Doesn't matter what you do, you don't get the revision number, you aren't going to get any where.

[ampapa]

By "revision number" which are you refering to?

[FreshManDTV]

It's the 4th line in the sys info screen, right bellow the smart card ID. It should be DNASPXXX.

[ampapa]

Thanks.

Any other thoughts or ideas to try? I tried re-creating a boot disk from the cemu program using a ROM10, CAM#, IRD# with no modification and I get the same problem?

[himeros]

You might want to get more information about the EMU board you have. Has it been flashed with the proper firmware, does it have the chip so you don't need to insert a card?? It probably is not the software, more likely the cable or board is the problem. If you get the message about the first byte, that is telling you the computer is not talking to the IRD properly.


Himeros :)

[ampapa]

Replaced the internal emu from cancom and when powering up the IRD I get insert card error 021. If I place a card upside down in the IRD then power up I get, "acquiring signal" and then cemu pumps out the following message:

<< Unknown input

(followed by a series of numbers in multiple lines)

>> Unknown output 12 91 00 83

Then the error 019 shows up and then the IRD goes to the settings screen with a DNA #

I need somehelp here anyone have any ideas?

[himeros]

What did you replace the internal emu board with, another internal board or ?

Himeros :)

[ampapa]

Yes, I have 2 internal boards.

[Brooklyn18m]

For those having problems getting the card revision to show up in their info screens, it can only be three things usually. The ATMEL on the emulator board is what supplies the DNASPXXX revision to the receiver. The DNASP revision is coded into your flash file which you program onto the ATMEL. If your flash is corrupt, the wiring is wrong, or there is no power, you would not see it. A connection to the computer is not required to see the DNASP revision if your board is flashed, powered, and working correctly.

Those who have the card revision and dont have a CAM ID are not communicating with the PC emulator software, that is, if you have your emulator file is setup correctly. I use Yvous, and when communication occurs, it says RESET on the computer screen. Make sure your COM ports are set correctly. Probably the biggest problem... (aside from receiver wiring) is serial cable wiring. If you bought a emulator, this shouldnt be a problem. For those who built the cable you can use a multimeter to test the pinouts to make sure they are correctly. First, remove the RS232 IC off your emulator board and disconnect the serial cable from the PC. Now use a continuity check and see if the following pins connect:

RS232 IC 13 -> DB9 3
RS232 IC 14 -> DB9 2
RS232 IC 15 -> DB9 5

If they are correct, you cable works and its a software setup/bad flash problem most likely. Hope that helps.

[ampapa]

Brooklyn18m,

Will emulation take place even if you have no signal from the satellite? In essence if my software is setup correctly and my board is working properly would I be able to get past the setup screen and avoid the "error 019" and "error 021"?

[BiggerBear]

ampapa -------
I looked at your first statement and noticed the Software is P155. My 301-010 is running P229. You should Erase the SA3(for 301-010) sector and let the stream update the receiver.

To Update SoftWare follow these steps:It is also used for ECM repair!
Plug receiver into outlet and power off on the receiver itself -
1- Have dummy card in the card slot(leave dummuy card in until the update is finished)and Open JKeys
2- jkeys will detect your box keys and ird number
3- click on flash programming, remove power, reconnect and click on OK in 3 seconds(301-010 receivers do not require the reconnect)
4-(Skip this if you already have a backup of TSOP) in the next screen, in FULL, click READ and save a dump of your tsop
5- click on the arrow near FULL, there you will find the sectors or SA, select the one that correspond to your ird's model:
2700 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
2800 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
3700 = address SA5 (512 k tsop)
3800 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
3900 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
4700 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
4900 = address SA30 (2 meg tsop)
301.010 = address SA3 or SA 8 flash1(2x2 tsops)
301.013 = address SA18 flash2(2x2 tsops)
301.013 = address SA50 (1x4 tsop) jkeys2.9.9b
501/508 = address SA54 or SA52 (2x4 tsops) P168 firmware is SA60 in Flash2
6- click on ERASE 5 times or more
7- close jkeys, connect the ird to the satellite feed with the cam(dummy Card)and wait 15 to 20 minutes
8- LED will go out when update is finished.

[ampapa]

I think that "Have dummy card in the card slot" is my biggest problem. I have an access card that is not streamlocked but don't have another. When you say "dummy card in the slot" is that only to open the contacts on the back of the slot?

The receiver won't let me into the setup menu to align the dish without an accesss card, it goes drectly to the information screen then locks. So, if I use my card to do the update won't it get streamlocked? then it's useless? kind of a catch 22.

Should I even care if it get's streamlocked? would it still allow me to get into the setup menu? If I'm emulating who cares??? Will that impact me being able to use my ROM10 card to run cemu?

One other question biggerbear, In cemu if I create the boot disks directly from the prog and enter my info, IRD, CAM, etc. which files need to be changed or modified? If I am using ROM10? what if I switched toROM3?

Thanks for all the suggestions guy's. I'm certainly learning but doing it the hardway.

[BiggerBear]

I have 2 cards and both are Locked and Looped(I think)
I still use the CamID off one of them. It's the Number on the bottom of the card.
Make sure the Rom version is the same as the Rom Version of the Emu Program.
I have been Emulating over 1.5 years with very few problems.
You are going to need to set the Dish one way or another!!!
I bought a Signal Meter off E-bay and it works great, but it you
doesn't show what Sat you are receiving. So it's trial and Error.

[ampapa]

So, you can still setup your IRD even if the CAM is streamlocked?

Charlie has no way of determining the number on the CAM or what IRD it's in so it's still usable as a CAM just that they can streamlock it, is that correct?

I'm off to lock in the Sat if the above statements are true!!!!

[ampapa]

BigBear,

One other quick question. Can I use my CAM and still have the emu wired but not actualy hooked to cemu?

[BiggerBear]

I have used my Card with the Internal Wired in. Just don't hook it to the Computer.

[Brooklyn18m]

ampapa,

Yes, emulation begins immediately after the dummy card closes the contacts to the ISO7816 socket in the receiver and it begins communications. This will tell the receiver that it is a ROM3 (or whatever your faking) card with such and such CAM ID. If your emulation setup is running correctly, you may use it to point your dish. After that, your receiver will most likely say there is a updated flash available for your receiver. If you dont take it, you are making yourself a target for an ECM. You should be good to go providing everything is correct.

[ampapa]

Brooklyn,

If in fact I can run emu to actively help in the "setup" of my dish and currently all I get is the system info screen I've got to figure there is something wrong with either my board, cable or my cemu? I replaced the cable so I can rule that out. The PC is communicating because of the errors I was posting earlier:

<< Unknown input

(followed by a series of numbers in multiple lines)

>> Unknown output 12 91 00 83

I downloaded cemu v2 and created a new boot disk only entered my info into the ini screen, based on a ROM10. Given the default files in the cemu program should it not emulate given I put in my info correclty? I am going to re jtag and verify my info today.

What software version are you running?

So, systematically I'm eliminating things if my statements above are a logical set of steps...

[ampapa]

Finally got zoned in the SAT and got the software update to P229 without a card installed. Fired up cemu from a clean boot disk and it's stuck on the "ATR----" line on the computer screen, however I am able to get to the menu system now.

Will not having an updated dish.bin and ROM10.bin cause this?

[BiggerBear]

Did you put your setup information in the INI File?BoxKeys, IRD Number and CamID
need to be entered.
If you did and you don't see you CamID in the SYS INFO screen on the TV the Computer is not communicating correctly. Try another Computer to rule out the one you are using now.

[ampapa]

I get the SYSTEM INO screen and it has labeled boxes:

A)
B)
C)
D) DP301
Software P229

E) R0035xxxxxx
S0000000000

So, I'm guessing CAMID? It's in the ini file though?

What's the format for it and the IRDID?

[BiggerBear]

If you see a place for 8 digits it's Hex. If you see aplace for 10 digits it's Dec.
If you don't see the CamID in the SYS INFO screen you are not connected to the computer correctly or you have a com port problem. Try another Computer!!!

[ampapa]

Are you using cemu?

What part of the number is used in the CAMID? there is "S" then 12 digits

How about the IRDID? R0035xxxxxx

[ampapa]

Sorry, I just looked cemu again and it says where to start and end onthenumbers. I'mgoing to rejtag the unit in the morning to make sure I have the correct info from the IRD.

Hopefully it will go well if not I'll post back....

[ampapa]

IRD# checks out.
BoxKey's and CAMID also checks out in the ini file.

There is no CAMID on the Info screen.

"If you don't see the CamID in the SYS INFO screen you are not connected to the computer correctly or you have a com port problem"

So what do I test for a computer issue?

[BiggerBear]

Try another Computer. You should have one for Emulating anyway. I use an old Acer166mhz 64ram Windows98 bought for $50. Runs Yvous Dishnet and Yvous Bev at the same time.
If another computer doesn't work then check you wires on the Emu.
Are you seeing the REV Number you flashed on the Atmel(should show on the SYS INFO screen)

[ampapa]

How can I get the REV#? I don't see it on the SYS INFO screen?

[BiggerBear]

If you pull the Dummy card the SYS INFO screen should come up after the 021 screen. Wait and see.

[ampapa]

I'm standing in front of it right now and only see the "System Info - One" screen and the following:

A)
B)
C)
D) DP301
Software P229

E) R0035xxxxxx
S0000000000

[BiggerBear]

When the SYS INFO screen is up look at the bottom of the screen!!!
You should see { Details Next }
Select Next- Another screen comes up.
Select Next again and you should see DNASP 003 REV383(or what you have flashed)
If you don't see anything after DNASP your Emu is not hooked up correctly or wired correctly.

[ampapa]

DNASP is "blank"....

So, it's an emu problem. If the wiring checks out would it be a flash problem? Is it possible for the flash to not take or get erased?

Thansk,

[FreshManDTV]

That's what I've been telling you a long time ago. You'll never get anywhere without DNASP... That should be the first thing to look for when you connect a new emu board.

Anyway, did you flash it with an image? What did you flash it with? It's possible that the flash didn't take it, got errased or the chip is bad. However if you did flash it and the flash program confirmed it, it's more likely that you connect the emu board wrong.

One thing I notice is people often connect to the wrong pin on the card reader because the pin number and orientation can be confusing. Download more than one diagrams from the download section and compared to make sure you got that part right.

Another thing, what kind of emu board do you have? If you have the one with a switch (the 3 chip design), you got to make sure you connect the cable right for power to go to the atmel chip.

[ampapa]

Freshmandtv, I'm not ignoring you I just thought at one time I had the DNASP??? I must have misread...

"Anyway, did you flash it with an image? What did you flash it with? It's possible that the flash didn't take it, got errased or the chip is bad. "

I bought it flashed from cancom so I've got to think it's been done correctly it's A-1 work. I guess I might have to visit the flashing of the Atmel if I keep coming up blank.

It's a 3 chip design and the IRD has been firing up without a card so now from what I know I should see the DNASP... else I've got something else going on. The computer shouldn't even come into play yet, is that a correct statement?

"One thing I notice is people often connect to the wrong pin on the card reader because the pin number and orientation can be confusing. Download more than one diagrams from the download section and compared to make sure you got that part right. "

I'm going to grab my MM and get to checking pin outs and looking for some other schematics.

"Another thing, what kind of emu board do you have? If you have the one with a switch (the 3 chip design), you got to make sure you connect the cable right for power to go to the atmel chip."

Brooklyn18m, posted some data earlier on the pinouts for the serial connector, is this verified data, no offense Brooklyn18m?

RS232 IC 13 -> DB9 3
RS232 IC 14 -> DB9 2
RS232 IC 15 -> DB9 5

[ampapa]

Do you haveany links to the wiring data? I just looked and don't see any?

[FreshManDTV]

Cancom board should be fine and I am sure it come loaded. Brooklyn RS to DB is correct. The think that most confusing is the EMU to the card reader (I've seen more than one person mess that up). Bellow is the link to many emu schematic, look at the ISO_connection pix, it can't be clearer than that.

http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=YzY0NDczNjU3MnEXPiVvcv/miEeWKIOwUkJAbGqknMjc3kgOlVzz

With the 3 chip design, look at the pix intIRD231Switched.jpg, you'll notice that there's a 4th wire to it. You have to connect it as the picture so that when the board connect to the PC, the 4th is connected to ground. And when you unplug the board from the PC, the board is turned off because of the 4th wire disconnected, just like a switch.

[FreshManDTV]

I just looked at cancom board. From the picture, It's hard to see which is the "switch signal" wire (the 4th wire). You can trace the pin yourself and find one what is the "switch signal".

I looked at them again, I think the black is the one, but trace the board to be sure.

[ampapa]

I just traced all the pin outs on the IC's, checked voltages and grounds and all appear fine using the"intIRD231Switched.jpg" schematic.

So, without the PC plugged in I fired up the IRD and still no DNASPxx? It will work with out the PC correct, I should get a DNASPxx?

If the above statement is correct then I guess I need to flash the atmel chip? Are there newer versions of flash I should use? I recall reading about building your own flasher via a parallel port, anyone have a schema?

Thanks,

Happy Thanksgiving!

[BiggerBear]

If you have the Emu with the switch chip you need the Computer connected to close the switch. That's the reason for the switch - so when you unhook the Computer you can use the Card alone.

[ampapa]

It's definitely a 3 chip design so I will need to have the computer connectd in order to get a DNASPxx?

Is there a way to bypass the switch so I can tell where my problem is? emu or computer? Could I take pin 15 on the max232 to the IRD chassis ground?

BiggerBear any direction for flashing the Atmel?

[ampapa]

By the way here is alink to the emu: http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/attachment.php?attachmentid=2028

[FreshManDTV]

ampapa,

From the direction I see, it really doesn't matter if you connected to the computer or not, the switch already by enable. One way to verify it is hook the emu board to the ird, do not plug the the ird in, and do not connect the emu to the PC. Check for continuity between the ird chasis and pin 13 on the 4066, you should get 0 ohm. Do the same for pin 15 on 232 it should already connected to GND.

[ampapa]

Yes, FReshamnDTV both of those are true statements.

"Check for continuity between the ird chasis and pin 13 on the 4066, you should get 0 ohm. Do the same for pin 15 on 232 it should already connected to GND"

So, I'm going to try and flash the Atmel today. I found a copy of fbprg16image.exe, where do I get the .hex file which one do I need and are there more up to date ones floating around?

Anything I should look out for?

[FreshManDTV]

You can get any revision that available as long as it's for the program fbprg16image.exe and it's not for a one chip design. Or you can get a file call flash maker (or something like that) to make your own bin.

[ampapa]

Here's something odd.

I created a new boot disk using cemu and using ROM3 generated a CAM using scammer2 and I got a DNASPxx, the ATR--- didn't budge but I thought that was a good sign.

Does that mean that the Atmel is running correctly but the computer isn't?

I'm confused.....

[BiggerBear]

I havn't used Cemu for a while, but I think you should see you setup Info after the ATR. If you don't it could be the cable from the Emu to the Computer. It could also be a Computer Problem.
What Computer are you using for Cemu. You said this "DNASPxx" I have DNASP:003 Rev383 on my 301-010(yours should have what you flashed i.e. I flashed the Rev383) You Need To See The Rev. Number Or It's Not Going To Work
If you don't see The Rev. Number It maybe these - the Chip not flashed, In the socket wrong, Emu not wired the the IRD correctly .

[ampapa]

BiggerBear, I should have said earlier that I did NOT flash the Atmel yet, I only created a new boot disk using ROM3 instead of ROM10.

This is on the setup screen "DNASP 003 Rev380" when booting I must use a card then remove it. What's with the different revision numbers? So, I'm gusssing that seeint the revison means that the emu is wired correctly and the Atmel does not need to be flahed would those be correct statements?

I'm trying this on a laptop, I've tried on another laptop and a desktop. I checked the cable to make sure it was a passthrough and not a cross over or something wierd.

[BiggerBear]

What Do You Mean By This? "when booting I must use a card then remove"
My 301-010 starts up with the dummy card in.

"So, I'm gusssing that seeing the revison means that the emu is wired correctly and the Atmel does not need to be flahed would those be correct statements?"

I am no expert, but I think this statement is correct. I have built a few Emu's and
have had them all work once the REV Number is in the SYS INFO screen. My Emu's
are flashed with either 381, 382 or 383 and they all work. I just updated them as they were built. I can't say if the Rev380 is still OK.
I would check the wires from the Emu to the Computer.

[ampapa]

With the card left in all I get is a blank screen. If boot without the card I don't get the Rev # So if I boot with the card then remove after the first blink I get a Rev#?

No word from cancom? So I think I'm going to fah the Atmel tomorrow? Can I use emu_flash?

I've also thought about using yvous, what's the latest version?

Thanks guy's for helping. I'd a been stuck along time ago without the help and suggestions...

[BiggerBear]

When you get Black Screen what is on the Computer screen? Still just ATR.
What happens if you pull the dummy card out and in after the Computer Boots?
The receiver should cycle power(off/on)when you pull the dummy card out and in after the Computer Boots.
Are using a card backwards or upside down?
How did you wire the Emu to the IRD?

[ampapa]

Wow, I just re-read my post from earlier, my typing sucks!

"When you get Black Screen what is on the Computer screen? Still just ATR. "

Yes, no change in the status on PC.


"What happens if you pull the dummy card out and in after the Computer Boots? "

Yes, the reciever does cycle (off/on). If I power on the PC and wait for the ATR then plug in the IRD with the card in, wait for the first flash of the IRD, pull the card then re-insert it I get an error 021. Then the IRD powers off and doesn't power back on. Through all this, no change in the PC.


"Are using a card backwards or upside down? "

Backwards, as just a way to open the switch.


"How did you wire the Emu to the IRD?"

This was an earlier post from cancom with wiring diagram - http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/...tachmentid=2028

[FreshManDTV]

Getting the the revision is a good sign to me. I still have 380 on mine and it works fine.

One way to see if you are okay between the computer and the atmel chip is remove the atmel chip, put a jumper between pin 17 and 19 on the atmel, plug in the IRD, power and all, open hyper terminal program (an accessory program in windows) and set it to the approriate com port. When you type something, you should receive the same.

Also, why don't you try yvous just to eliminate the software problem.

[ampapa]

"Also, why don't you try yvous just to eliminate the software problem."

What's the latest version? when entering info. into the ini CAM,IRD,etc. are they supposed to be in Hex or decimal?

I'm off to give your suggestion a try, removing the Atmel...

Thanks

[ampapa]

I'm seriously considerig trying a "One Chip" design. Anything I should be looking out for or would you guy's suggest against?

[dRaNo]

give yvous 3.0 a try http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=MzBiNmI4ZjdhOCZ2w2fLw1e/c3aBgbdxO8/pPMXKuj1l6IMSEsfW/w==
I'm pretty good with yvous, if you need a hand with it send me a pm.

[BiggerBear]

I use the one chip in my 2800 receiver for BEV and it works great. It's been running for 6 months.
I got all the information off dsshelper in a STICKY thread. Just remember it takes a special flash on the ATMEL
I took me 20 minutes to build.

[ampapa]

Thanks for the reply's guy's. The help is amazing...

Well prior to getting into another design, sigle chip or yvous and after building the Atmel flash utility. I decided to try yet a 4th computer, and it worked! I booted to cemu from the floppy and fired up the IRD with a card and it started downloading the listings... So, communication was and is the issue for my other PC's, why???? I used the same cable by the way...

I noticed a couple of things on the computer after booting it up, the command line still has the ATR and a series of numbers, they didn't change and haven't all along so I think that cemu has been running correctly? I'm using ROM3 instead of ROM10 now which I switched mid-stream I'll switch back later and see what happens.

The 2 computers I've been mainly trying to get rolling are both laptops, one older model and one a newer model. So, something is up with the laptop's serial ports and the communication anybody know what or have any ideas?

Drano, yvous is still in the mix I'll PM when I get a chance to look at it. The PPV appears easier than in cemu, what about ecm's? Thanks.

BiggerBear, I'm still curious about the sigle chip design, do you use emu_flash? If the sigle chip design works then why the 3 chip design? Also I'm confused about the "switch" in the 3 chip design if that functionality is there for plastic testing then why do I need a card to get this to emulate? Is the 3 chip "switch" different than the CAM switch?

[BiggerBear]

I have 2 Computers sitting here that won't run the newer Cemu. They ran older versions, but it's not worth my time since I can buy a Bare Bone(no HD) computer for $20. Plus now I run Yvous3 for both BEV and Dishnet off a 166mhz 64ram Win98.

I don't use the 3 chip,but it is so when you unhook the Computer the EMU is switched off so you can run plastic. I have not tried plastic in a long time, but even with my Internal Emu hooked up the plastic still worked(I always unhooked the Computer)
I think someone over thought the process and was afraid to try the card with the Emu in the receiver(not me - I used to do the same thing with DTV)
What do you mean by " why do I need a card to get this to emulate "
If you are talking about the Dummy Card - It is just to switch the power switch that is on the back of the card slot.

[ampapa]

"Plus now I run Yvous3 for both BEV and Dishnet off a 166mhz 64ram Win98. "

Any idea why a laptop might be a culprit?

"It is just to switch the power switch that is on the back of the card slot."

I didn't realize that was a power sitch, that answers that.

[BiggerBear]

As I said I have a couple Desktop Computers that don't run Cemu either. Try a search on "Laptops"