301 010 signal problem

[expo]

Help

I have a 301 010, with a dish pro dish 500. Just a week ago it started to lose satellite signal constantly looking for signal. The picture would break up and then search for signal, I have done a test switch and it recognizes the switch but not the sat. The Sat have " x x " in the box instead of 110 119, well I tried a new lnb, made no difference, ran new wires, still no difference, brought over a friends receiver, now his has the same problem, brought both receivers to his house and now have the same problem there. I have tried to erase sa03, did not make a difference, but now takes forever to receive updates. Even plugged it a bell to take updates and same problem, signal goes on and off, finds sat and then loses it in 2 sec. I have also reset the receiver, still made no difference. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all in advance

[tbonetom]

Help

I have a 301 010, with a dish pro dish 500. Just a week ago it started to lose satellite signal constantly looking for signal. The picture would break up and then search for signal, I have done a test switch and it recognizes the switch but not the sat. The Sat have " x x " in the box instead of 110 119, well I tried a new lnb, made no difference, ran new wires, still no difference, brought over a friends receiver, now his has the same problem, brought both receivers to his house and now have the same problem there. I have tried to erase sa03, did not make a difference, but now takes forever to receive updates. Even plugged it a bell to take updates and same problem, signal goes on and off, finds sat and then loses it in 2 sec. I have also reset the receiver, still made no difference. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all in advance


Some 301-10's took the 229 update without problems some have your problem, Did you go from 226 to 229? I'm hopeing to stumble on the solution. I hope others will join this thread with their experience.

[Dick Hurts]

Your not alone. My 301-10 is in the same boat. I did the same as you Expo. Changed out everything and still lost signal. I even checked voltage at the rear and have more than is needed. 19.62 volts. The dish and LNB work fine with an older 2800 now, but I want my 301 back up and running. Any fix you come up with would be great. IM new here, but I have been reading for some time. Finding your problem made me register so I could reply.

[skinerd]

Your not alone. My 301-10 is in the same boat. I did the same as you Expo. Changed out everything and still lost signal. I even checked voltage at the rear and have more than is needed. 19.62 volts. The dish and LNB work fine with an older 2800 now, but I want my 301 back up and running. Any fix you come up with would be great. IM new here, but I have been reading for some time. Finding your problem made me register so I could reply.


19.2 volts prolly means the voltage regulator circuit for the lnb power has shorted.
With no sat cable connected to the receiver, it should bounce 13v to 18v.
More probable is the maxum chip inside the sat in box has failed, very common these days.

[expo]

Can you give me the number of the maxum chip and i will try to change it and see if that works

Thanks
Kevin

[muleman]

Do you have a dp (Dish pro lnbf if you do you volts will run that hight if not take volts behine receiver go to cable that go's to the lnbf and take the volts and post

[Dick Hurts]

I only have a dual LNB. I will check the voltage at the coax and get back to you.

[killer b]

was any one able to solve this issue with the 301.10

[Dick Hurts]

Not yet for me anyway. I can't check the voltage at the LNB until the weekend with it being dark before work and after. (I hate winter). The funny thing is with the 301.10 I only get signal loss on 119 and not 110. If I go into setup and change transponder to 11 my signal goes back up on 119.

[bud02]

How close to the LNB is the Sw21? Trouble shot one not long ago had SW21 installed about 30 feet from dish move it closer solved his 119 problem. 301.10 dual LNB

[killer b]

my problem i have two 301.10 woke up one morning 1 have signal the other didn't it's keep searching for signal did a check switch still no signal i took the box without signal and hook it up to the feeed that has signal still same problem no signal every now and then it appears to have signal but dissapears in seconds whats going on are they doing something to receivers now. I saw this sme problem in many posts but no one seem to be able to fix this problem any suggestions.

[muleman]

There is a lot of people that have the same thing , it is some thing that dish done mayable we will no so.

[lousydog]

19.2 volts prolly means the voltage regulator circuit for the lnb power has shorted.
With no sat cable connected to the receiver, it should bounce 13v to 18v.
More probable is the maxum chip inside the sat in box has failed, very common these days.

you just have to heat the max2401 up to resolder the ground under it

[Dick Hurts]

There is a lot of people that have the same thing , it is some thing that dish done mayable we will no so.

I agree, but whay does it only seem to be with the 301. for the most part. I have a 2800 in its place right now witout a problem. Same switch and LNB and coax. IM going to have a look at this ground thing under the chip on the weekend and see if that changes things.

[Dick Hurts]

you just have to heat the max2401 up to resolder the ground under it

How do I find that ? Is it hard to do for a person that has some soldering skills ?

Thanks!

[Dick Hurts]

I found it.... IM not good enough to fix that. It's way to small for my soldering sKills.

[killer b]

I found it.... IM not good enough to fix that. It's way to small for my soldering sKills.
WHERE IS IT EXACTLY CAN'T FIND IT

[Dick Hurts]

WHERE IS IT EXACTLY CAN'T FIND IT

It's in the little tin box in the corner that the coax hooks to. Pop the lid off and you should see it. It will take better soldering skills than mine to fix that.

[SatJumper]

Im having the same problem !! You said to heat up the chip and resolder the ground lead ??

If thats not it...does anyone have a source on where to buy this chip ??

Thanks for the help guys !!

[SatJumper]

you just have to heat the max2401 up to resolder the ground under it


Where is the Ground located under the chip....on the bottom side of the board or right under the chip ?? If directly under the chip...how do you get to it to resolder the ground ??

[smilingjack]

Before you go soldering and unsoldering things how about trying a new, good flash with a working P-229 on it.

I had a lot of problems (similar) with my 4900 and a good flash fixed it right up.

226 to 229 is a big jump a lot of IRD's don't like to go more than 1 or 2 at a time.

Hell, a new flash takes 5 minutes to do and you can do it right now .

Worth a try
Sj

[SatJumper]

im running ver 155....maybe thats it I hope !!! Can you tell me where I can a copy of the newer version flash for my 301-010 build EABD ??

Thanks man !!

[smilingjack]

Try milli's public file section there were some there, It is a popular IRD and it's slow there now should not be any problem.

Make sure you check it for ECM & checksum when you edit it for your numbers, There have been a few bad ones slipping in.

Sj

[SatJumper]

Does anyone have a tsop build for a 301-010 / EABD with the update 226 or 229 ?? I can't seem to find any in the files area !!

Thanks for any help !!

[JCK7]

I have 301-010 / EABA with the update 226 same thing; pm YOUR email i send .JCK7


301-010 / EABD with the update 226 or 229

[smac]

I also had a signal problem with a 301.010 about 8 months ago. Let us know if the software upgrade fixes the problem. At the time, my software was current, and after doing some research found this (see attachment) on the Maxim 2104. Mine fell into the date range, had the furry growth between the legs, etc. I ordered a new chip (not easily available, and took about 2 months to get) and soldered it on (not an easy job). After all that, I had the exact same problem as when I started. If the software doesn't fix your problem, and re-heating the chip to re-attach the solder underneath doesn't help, you are best to just get another ird from e-bay, or somewhere, and start over....more time, and cost efficient.

[smilingjack]

Does anyone have a tsop build for a 301-010 / EABD with the update 226 or 229 ?? I can't seem to find any in the files area !!

Thanks for any help !!

Do you have a single or dual TSOP
1 .bin or 2

[SatJumper]

Do you have a single or dual TSOP
1 .bin or 2

I have a Dual Tsop

[smilingjack]

Have you ever seen the sticker on the IRD motherboard, it has the original build EAEA or whatever.

You do not have to match the XXXX exactly
all 4 is supposed to be best
3 is supposed to be good
2 is supposed to be the minimum.

If you go to other forums there are still one or two that have TSOP banks, I looked at Milli's files too and there are no really good 301-10 TSOP's in there Try to get as new a P-XXX as you can, that is more important than the build XXXX, don't even bother with anything less than 226 and it may not even help.

If all else fails I have a good EAEA P-129 I can post, it just may take a while, we have been underwater here and the line does not work too good sometimes.
Sj

[SatJumper]

Have you ever seen the sticker on the IRD motherboard, it has the original build EAEA or whatever.

You do not have to match the XXXX exactly
all 4 is supposed to be best
3 is supposed to be good
2 is supposed to be the minimum.

If you go to other forums there are still one or two that have TSOP banks, I looked at Milli's files too and there are no really good 301-10 TSOP's in there Try to get as new a P-XXX as you can, that is more important than the build XXXX, don't even bother with anything less than 226 and it may not even help.

If all else fails I have a good EAEA P-129 I can post, it just may take a while, we have been underwater here and the line does not work too good sometimes.
Sj



I found a 214 but thats it !! If you can post the 129 that would be great man !!

Thanks for your help !!

P.S. Mine is a dual tsop !!

[SatJumper]

Have you ever seen the sticker on the IRD motherboard, it has the original build EAEA or whatever.

You do not have to match the XXXX exactly
all 4 is supposed to be best
3 is supposed to be good
2 is supposed to be the minimum.

If you go to other forums there are still one or two that have TSOP banks, I looked at Milli's files too and there are no really good 301-10 TSOP's in there Try to get as new a P-XXX as you can, that is more important than the build XXXX, don't even bother with anything less than 226 and it may not even help.

If all else fails I have a good EAEA P-129 I can post, it just may take a while, we have been underwater here and the line does not work too good sometimes.
Sj

Well I just loaded a tsop that the first two xx were the same, after I loaded it now it will not lock on a signal at all ??

Thanks for any help !!

[smilingjack]

Well I just loaded a tsop that the first two xx were the same, after I loaded it now it will not lock on a signal at all ??

Thanks for any help !!


All I have is EAEA P-129, it good I am using it in 3 IRD's if you want to try that.

[SatJumper]

Cool....is it for a dual tsop ?? if so I would love to try it !!!

Thanks man !!

[smilingjack]

Cool....is it for a dual tsop ?? if so I would love to try it !!!

Thanks man !!


Here's the 2 bins and a virgin eprom, let me know when you have them so I can delete them from the post.

Ok Hope they work for you, like I said they are the ones I am using now.
Dont forget to flashedit your numbers into them.

[SatJumper]

Here's the 2 bins and a virgin eprom, let me know when you have them so I can delete them from the post.

Got em man !!!

Thanks again Buddy !!

[Dick Hurts]

It seems that my receiver has fixed itself. I moved it to anonther room and hooked it up to a single sat on 119 for a week or more. It still had loss of signal and not stable, but now it seems to be working great. I have now moved it back and now have a solid signal on both 119 and 110 at P229. IM not going to ask why, but IM sure it has to do with chuck and his upgrades.

[smilingjack]

P-229 is the latest update for the 301-10.

Most likley had to take the update, magic does not always work right with old P #'s

[trap_at_work]

Hi all Member

I have the same problem on my 301-10 , can't get the signal. I saw this tread. did any fix their yet . Please show me how to fix my.

thank in advance.

Trap.

[smilingjack]

Hi all Member

I have the same problem on my 301-10 , can't get the signal. I saw this tread. did any fix their yet . Please show me how to fix my.

thank in advance.

Trap.

Their problem was just a corrupted flash on the IRD. All they had to do was put a good one in and let it update in the stream.

Do you kow if you have a signal from the dish to the IRD ?

What kind of IRD ?

[skinerd]

If your Maxim chip is bad, (a very common problem), flashing it is not going to help at all.
The maxim chip can fail all at once, or gradually and intermittently.

[mcrob]

My 310 was playing with no problems and all at once "no signal" it's at p229, are their any good way of knowing if the Maxim bad, i see where these chips are pretty expense...Tks

[smilingjack]

That could be caused by a number of things.

Disk fell over on side or off roof.

Full of snow, is it snowing there ?

Dog or rats, chewed wire.

ECM screwed TSOP.

Run switch check.


Best to start at beginning put a working IRD or a sat finder on wire from dish and se if there is still a signal coming in.

Teveral people this week had dish problems with above reasons. None had bad chips in IRD. The two I got going above had corrupted Flashes.

I had a 4900 that saidd no signal for months, everybody said it was junk, I kept trying flashes until the 32nd one made it work again.

Sj

[garvey]

I no this has probly been answered but what ia the correct sat.dish to pick up the most sats with a single dish and what brand and motor do i need.? Thanksundefinedundefined

[smilingjack]

The only dish you use a motor on is a C-Band dish. (with a C-Band IRD.)

If you change the LNA on the dish to a LNB you can use this 6 to 12 foot dish on Dave, Charlie, Bev and in the Carribean on their systems. They come with motors and are available at a lot of places for long distance reception.

If you are talking about standard modern dishes, the dish 500 series(s) can get two sats, there are some new ones that can get 4 sats. Some rube Goldberg home made ones get more.
It is possible to rig a motor to any dish if you want to make a bracket with a hinge that will let it track in a parabolic arc.

If would help if you were more specific what you have and what you want to do with it. OR what reception / channels you want to get.
Sj

[Dick Hurts]

Well it started acting up again..... Oh well, It did work again for a few weeks. Now I just put the 2700 in it's place. The max chip must be done like we first thought. Back to looking for another 301-10 I guess.

[SatJumper]

Has anyone found a source on where to buy a Max Chip for the 301-010 Series ??

Thanks for any help !!

[sandman530]

Has anyone found a source on where to buy a Max Chip for the 301-010 Series ??

Thanks for any help !!

xxx.highontech.com has the Maxim chip for $36.00

(replace xxx with www)

[Bow]

I had the same problem with my 3100. I took one of those small butane torches and heated up the max.chip,I may have gotten it to hot because I kind of scorched it a bit,but it has been working fine now for over a year.I am unsure if it was the solderd ground or if the heat changed the composition of the material that the chip is made of. Either way it worked.Mabey give it a try as a last resort.

[cman]

Ok I'm having problems with the Lost signal as well but with bell..

I've upgraded to the latest firmware and that fixed things for a while.

but once again its fubared..


The weirdthing is the signal on the setup screen jumps around and actually says wrong sat for a sec!! Then back to EV-91..


There has to be something to stop this and I dont buy the bad chip story..

[skinerd]

Ok I'm having problems with the Lost signal as well but with bell..

I've upgraded to the latest firmware and that fixed things for a while.

but once again its fubared..


The weirdthing is the signal on the setup screen jumps around and actually says wrong sat for a sec!! Then back to EV-91..


There has to be something to stop this and I dont buy the bad chip story..


Don't buy it then, but I have seen quite a few 301-010/3100's with that chip shot. And several other have reported fixing it by heating it or changing it, so there is something to that story......

[smilingjack]

I recently uploaded a curent, working set of files (1)(2)EPROM for the 301-10.

It is a public dump of my current set, I am watching TV right now with them.

They are in the public download files / TSOP Bank # 4, # 5, # 6

If they don't get you working get out the soldering Iron.

[cman]

I recently uploaded a curent, working set of files (1)(2)EPROM for the 301-10.

It is a public dump of my current set, I am watching TV right now with them.

They are in the public download files / TSOP Bank # 4, # 5, # 6

If they don't get you working get out the soldering Iron.


Ok How do you heat up the maxum chip to re solder the ground??

I'll give it a try nothing to loose!!

T

[cman]

Ok Its Fixed!!

I heated the maxum chip up with a small butane torch and Viola! it works!!

Seems like a crude fix but it works!!


T

[smilingjack]

A BUTANE TORCH !

Goodness Grasious, great balls of fire.

Hey whatever works.

[Bow]

Ok Its Fixed!!

I heated the maxum chip up with a small butane torch and Viola! it works!!

Seems like a crude fix but it works!!


T
Told you so.

[wasup]

What about a match.
Did you heat the top of the chip or the bottom of the board where the chip is? After you heated the chip, did you mash on it to reseat the chip better?

[cman]

What about a match.
Did you heat the top of the chip or the bottom of the board where the chip is? After you heated the chip, did you mash on it to reseat the chip better?


I just used a small butane torch and heated the top of the chip,, I dont think a match will do it..


I heated it untill I couldnt touch the back side anaymore..

I guess youll just have to JUDGE for yourself,, but it does work if done properly..

T