510 - The right and safest way for testing

[papu]

Since I've already fried one 510, and since there a lot of threads dealing with this issue, I'm confused and I'm sure there're a lot of other pepole in the same boat.
What I'm trying to do is to get a step by step guide, begining to end.
So here it goes:

Note: My assumption is that we are dealing with 510 only, without R331. Another assumption would be that both TSOPs are GT (other TSOP don't need vidmod).

1. First thing would be to get the Boxkey and IRD#. In order to do that we need a jtag and jkey 2.9.9. Since 510 come without jtag we need to follow the guide at http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=YWY1YTk2ODMxMpw3yS6DRPJhT4DI5cL bv1grt38C4sCm4Yb9LstlRvzarxc
This one is having 3 connections at the bottom of the MB. If you prefer to make all connection at the top there's another picture how to do that in one of the threads, just use search. Either wya is fine.
2. What you need to do now is OJ1 which is basically like connecting pin 1 to the ground, It wont let the CPU to load, which mean that there will be no interrupt to the TSOPs. In simple world what that means is that the read write of the flash are more reliable. http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=12954&highlight=jkeys+update
3. Download JKey at :http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=MmU2NGRhMGJhZVkHtQzFIv0cLGqfKVN lOyGXrvb1TebyFbuHWzhfHQ==
4. Now we'll get the information. Unplug the power and disconnect from the stream and take the card out. Connect jtag, close oj1 jumper(or switch). Now plug the power and start Jkey. It will recognize the IRD as 501 and you'll see junk as you BK and IRD#, don't worry that's ok. Just select manually 508 instead. you should now see all you info.
5. My advise is to create a backup dump of your TSOPs (both) and your EEPROM.
6. While you're in flsh programming check the data in address 7FFFFFAC. If it shows 0000 you don't need a vidmod, otherwise you do need vidmod.
7. Unplug the power and disconnect Jtag.
8. At this point if you need a vidmod download the 4 wire vidmod:
http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=ZDMxYTUyNjc5NMmAuE1wllU/XSxL0f6PMPte7nO46JPTSsotOrVN+e38
notice that the pictures are from a 508, and the diff is that it does have R331. Don't worry about that just follow the pics and instruction.
you should also know that there's another vidmod with only 3 wire. some would argue that this one also works works. No metter which one you choose here's my two cents: double and triple check the connection and the trace cuts using a voltmeter.
9. Here's the most important step (in my opinion) in order to save your CPU from being fried. Before you solder the 12v to the switch, using a volmeter make sure that when the switch is in vidmod position the voltage at switch center pin should be 0v. If it show 3.3v then you have mistake in your wiring. If it's ok the you can go ahead and solder 10k resistor to the 12v wire, and the other side of the resistor to the switch, where the 12v should have gone.
10. If everything is ok, you can plug Jtag, close OJ1 jumper, vidmod at CLOSE position. plug in the power and start JKey.
Change to 508, and go to Flash Programming.
11. Now here another important test: put the voltmeter on the switch pin where the resistor connected. Switch quicklly the vidmod to on and look at voltmeter. If it shows about 3v on that side of the resistor and 12v on the other side then imidiatlly turn it on and unplug the power - something is wrong with your wiring.
12. If evrything is ok you should be able to write 0000 to address 7FFFFFAC. After you're done read this address and make sure the write was success. If it is then you can turn the vidmod off.
13. make another dump of Flash2 (U7), so that if in the future you need to restore your TSOP you'll be able to use this one.

That's it you are good to go, just unplug jtag, open OJ1 jumper and make sure vidmod is off (play position). plug the power in and let it stream with the card in. you should now get picture.

Enjoy.

P.S.
I do not claim creadit for any of this information, I just collected what others have already searched and discovered.

I DO NOT TAKE ANY RESPONSIBLITY FOR ANY DAMAGE.
DO IT AT YOU OWN RISK.

[d_hetz]

Skinard - what do you think?
Is that correct?
Is there anything else I should consider?

[skinerd]

Skinard - what do you think?
Is that correct?
Is there anything else I should consider?

I essentially do everything as above, except steps 9 and 11. If you do the wiring right, I use diffferent colored wires so I can see what goes where, and hook everything up correctly, you will be ok. Use the resistor method if you want, won't hurt.
Use one color for wire "c" another color for wires "b" & "c", and a 3rd color for 12v.

What's missing above is the fact that a 510 will need a vidmod, don't matter if 7FFFFFAC is 0000 or not (it won't be), you are going to have to load virgin software, resize the 120 gig HD to 80 gig, and remarry it.

[Smith2619]

papu please add the HDD resize and remarry instructions to your guide, otherwise a good guide.

[Smith2619]

and OJ1...is that the 2 pads right above SB70 writing ? Do you have a pic, that would be greately appreciated...

[sukh77]

Do a search for OJ1 and I think the steps to marry HD are also posted many times.

[d_hetz]

and OJ1...is that the 2 pads right above SB70 writing ? Do you have a pic, that would be greately appreciated...

Here's the pic I have.

[Smith2619]

can someone show me a pics of their vid mod installations and the wiring at the switch ?

[skinerd]

can someone show me a pics of their vid mod installations and the wiring at the switch ?


The pic in the guide is about is clear as you are going to get.....if you don't understand that one.....I don't know what I could show you that would help.
One end 12v...center wire "c"........other end wires "a" & "b".
You want to be able to connect 12v to "c" for vid mod, "a" & "b" to "c" for normal operation.

[Smith2619]

that trace that you need to cut between the two flashes....how can i check continuity to make sure that there isnt any connection ? any points i can test ?

[sukh77]

Did you already cut the trace. There is a vidmod that doesn't require the cut trace and 1 less wire. Check out the 5xx link on my sig.

[Smith2619]

already cut it...i just need to know how to test the continuity so i know im not throwing 12v into the cpu

[skinerd]

Did you already cut the trace. There is a vidmod that doesn't require the cut trace and 1 less wire. Check out the 5xx link on my sig.

That method smokes 510's..I have seen several smoked using that...

[Smith2619]

i know that....how do i check if i cut it good enough..

[bud02]

that trace that you need to cut between the two flashes....how can i check continuity to make sure that there isnt any connection ? any points i can test ?
Set your multimeter on OHMS. Look to the display with out the test leads touching together note your reading my be (1 .) or (0.L) depends on meter, this reading is open no current will pass threw is connection. Touch the test leads together note the reading on display (0000.0) (0) = zero resistance current will pass threw this connection.

[sukh77]

use an ohm meter if you see a short then its not cut, If its open then you cut it.

Skinerd - Why does it smoke the IRD. I would think incorrect wire hookup, But do you think it has to do with the build of the board?

[skinerd]

Set your multimeter on OHMS. Look to the display with out the test leads touching together note your reading my be (1 .) or (0.L) depends on meter, this reading is open no current will pass threw is connection. Touch the test leads together note the reading on display (0000.0) (0) = zero resistance current will pass threw this connection.


He is talking about another trace, the one between the flash chips.

[skinerd]

use an ohm meter if you see a short then its not cut, If its open then you cut it.

Skinerd - Why does it smoke the IRD. I would think incorrect wire hookup, But do you think it has to do with the build of the board?


It back feeds thru the flash 2 chip to the WE line of the cpu, usually causes the cpu to get extremely hot . Cutting the trace between chips and adding the wire to R331 stops that. All we want to do is apply 12v to the "c" connection, "a" & "b" are always together and tie to "c" for normal operation.

[bud02]

He is talking about another trace, the one between the flash chips.

Its just an example he can follow the traces back to solder point to find a good test point.

[skinerd]

Its just an example he can follow the traces back to solder point to find a good test point.

Ok, I see that.......
trouble is where he wants to trace isn't exactly easy to find the ends of those taces.

[Smith2619]

Ah fuck yeah i did it....the processor is not burning....i think the tsop is corrupt...i cant get a RID or BK out of it...and i made sure Jkeys was on 508...this box is subbed...so i need the bks...

[skinerd]

Can't get RID or BK, why not?

[Smith2619]

shits corrupt prolly

[Smith2619]

so im fucked or isthere another way?

[skinerd]

Not knowing your exact error, you say it's a subbed box, did it work before you started on it? If it did, it's prolly not corrupt.
I would stop and evaluate your methods if I were you, you seem to have an extremely difficult time with things we have repeatedly covered.
A 508 mods exactly the same as a 510, some 510's are tougher to jtag, having no jtag port, but other than that they essentially are the same.
How many times have you asked for someone to show you how to wire the vid mod switch...when clear pics are available, and you have those pics?
Unless you want a bigger stack of bad receivers, I'd sure try to learn more about what's going on before I proceeded.

[Smith2619]

for christ sakes, i didnt ask people to rank on me or for any critcism, how about i want to see how other people did it so i can get a second reference so i can DO IT CORRECTLY...fucking arrest me for wanting to make sure shits right.....but anyways...

this is what i get...

[skinerd]

Based on the pics, the jtag is working correctly, if the receiver was working, I don't know what to tell you, cause it looks like the tsop is empty, what error do you get trying to go to flash programming. Are you certain you cut the correct trace between the flash chips, and nothing else there?
Also with the vid mod switch off, make sure you have 3.3v at the "c" point, I know it's, below the board, so just for now check the wire going to it and see if it has 3.3v on it, if it don't you have a problem, if it does, then there still could be a bad connection at the "c" point underneath.
Then check with the vid mod switch on, should have 12v going to "c".
The "a & b" wires on the switch should always be 3.3v.

[Smith2619]

i dont get a flash error...but i think i accidentally cut the trace right above the one i was supposed to cut too...because i made sure i cut that trace i was supposed to...that goes to pin 11 on the 2nd tsop...but im not sure where it goes to on the 1st...cause then i could bridge it..

[skinerd]

You can bridge it right where it is cut, carefully scrape the traces down to bare metal, and solder a strand of very small wire between them. Or if it is a clean cut, with no part of the trace removed, scrape it down and just put a solder bridge there.

[Smith2619]

it wasnt a trace....jkeys detects the flashes perfectly....but im not getting a RID or BK

[Smith2619]

?!

[skinerd]

erase both tsops and reflash #2.....what else can you do.......

[lionman]

i did everything what i was told everything is work but istiil cannot get the blue card to work i did change d500 to 0000 what next should i do

[sukh77]

Lionman - did you do a vidmod.

[lionman]

yes i did a vidmod and change d5oo to oooo program it read and it say 0000

[sukh77]

ah damn I'm totally confused today. Can't read for shit. Ok what do you mean you can't get the blue card to work. Lets get couple of things straight. you have a 510, you did the vidmod, Have you converted the HD to 80 gig?

[lionman]

no i did not do that yet i do know how to do it yes i have a 510 idid vidmod everything work fine only hd and the blue card

[sukh77]

To check if the 510 works with a blue card just unplug the HD connection. Power up the IRD it should work like a regular IRD. If it doesn't you need to do something else before you convert the HD.

[lionman]

i did that already and still did not work it is say i am trying to use the wrong card

[bud02]

i did that already and still did not work it is say i am trying to use the wrong card
excuse me for butting in here you have all the help you need with sukh77. lionman are you trying a proven card? Do you have any other testing methods? Just a thought you might try to let it restream.

[bud02]

What version of of flash is on the TSOPs now If it is still PO70 or whatever it needs to stream but you nead to marry HD before you do that.

[lionman]

when i just 510 idid everything what was right and iwas have the same problem and i did a full erase of the flash and kill it just got it running good agan reflashing it iam useing p080
i am even get new box ira key the yellow card still work in to it idid vidmod it change d500 to 0000

[skinerd]

i did that already and still did not work it is say i am trying to use the wrong card


Wrong card or wrong card type????
Card not vaild for this receiver and card incompatible are two different messages and caused by 2 entirely different problems?
Give the exact error............

[bud02]

It sounds like you have a done a good job on video mode, ect.
You need to make sure you have your PO80 good on U7, U6 needs to erased, reflash your eeprom with matching PO80 or virgin. Now stop don't try to test it you need to do a search and find instructions on zeroing and resizing the HD. So it will remarry. If you stream it before you fix the HD you may have to start over.

Lets talk about this yellow card.
1) Is this the card you get wrong card message with?
2) Has it been use to recieve Dish network TV?
3) Did you change the IRD and box keys on the blue card?
3 questions 3 answers please.

[lionman]

the 510 and card has never use it brand new the card and the box has never been active yet yes i did change ird and key and blue card the the message i got is card that you are trying to use is incompatible

[skinerd]

the 510 and card has never use it brand new the card and the box has never been active yet yes i did change ird and key and blue card the the message i got is card that you are trying to use is incompatible

The incompatible message will be there, even if 7FFFFFAC is 0000, until it updates. Get the hard drive resized and married, then let it stream update with the yellow card, then the blue card will work.

[masterofall]

to do the resistor method from 12v power, can i just use the same resistor from AR105-B lock which protects the eeprom and that will do the job or do i have to buy a new resistor? if yes, what do i need to buy.....also once i will complete the vidmod, can i just get rid of the dpdt switch by fixing the trace or it has to stay there? any help will be much appreciated. thanks

[skinerd]

to do the resistor method from 12v power, can i just use the same resistor from AR105-B lock which protects the eeprom and that will do the job or do i have to buy a new resistor? if yes, what do i need to buy.....also once i will complete the vidmod, can i just get rid of the dpdt switch by fixing the trace or it has to stay there? any help will be much appreciated. thanks


The 510 has 12v available on the board!!!!!

[masterofall]

when i do the whole vidmod, try to flash the sector 7FFFFFAC from D500 to 0000
it gives me: Adress must reside within selected flash range...
do i just erase both flashses and flash with virgin firmware ? how can i check if my vidmod is right?
whats the problem with this now? please help me out here...

[masterofall]

i didn't do 0J1 jumper, whats the procedure with 0J1 jumper or it doesn't matter if i do that?

[speed]

I applaud you both (Skinerd and Sukh77) for providing this forum's excellent on-line support of the 5XX series IRD.

I hope everyone appredciates it. It is extremely difficult to help and trouble shoot when you do not have all the facts and have not seen in person the awe sh$t the exacto slipped. :)

If they think changing a 510 to a 508 is bad, wait until they see the digital lock install on this great IRD. You guys are extremely patient and amazing. Keep up the good work.

[Smith2619]

ah ok...what software do i use with my DCMD 508 ?

[skinerd]

when i do the whole vidmod, try to flash the sector 7FFFFFAC from D500 to 0000
it gives me: Adress must reside within selected flash range...
do i just erase both flashses and flash with virgin firmware ? how can i check if my vidmod is right?
whats the problem with this now? please help me out here...

Need to have flash 2 selected in the drop down window on the left side.

Erase both flashes, reflash 2 only, if the vid mod is right, it will work, the flasheds will erase and program fully.

[skinerd]

i didn't do 0J1 jumper, whats the procedure with 0J1 jumper or it doesn't matter if i do that?


Sometimes it is not needed, but if you keep getting errors it really helps. It must be jumpered before plugging in the receiver,

[skinerd]

ah ok...what software do i use with my DCMD 508 ?

Software for what?
What's wrong with the DCMA(D) that's in it?

[sukh77]

Masterofall -
1. I would not take the switch out. If you get ecm'd you will need again unless you have a lock on the IRD. Its just handy to have.
2. 7FFFFFAC is on flash 2. You are in Flash1 you have to select flash 2.
3. Are u converting the 510 to 508? Make sure u save the flash and eeprom before u delete anything.
4. If you have problems getting into flash programming you might need to jump OJ1. Some Ird's need it Some don't.

ah ok...what software do i use with my DCMD 508 ?
If u are talking about loading DCMD flash then its jkeys. Please do some reading or are u trying to trick me again.

[Smith2619]

its fucked...all 000001...i just need new software to put on it..

[sukh77]

I applaud you both (Skinerd and Sukh77) for providing this forum's excellent on-line support of the 5XX series IRD.

Thanks for the kind words. Don't forget you are the one helped me figure out my HD was messed up. Thanks Speed.

[masterofall]

sukh, its on flash 1 and its not letting me program it as its saying, when i do the whole vidmod, try to flash the sector 7FFFFFAC from D500 to 0000
it gives me: Adress must reside within selected flash range...
i even tried to jumper 0J1...don't know whats happening....help help help!!!!!!!!!!

[skinerd]

sukh, its on flash 1 and its not letting me program it as its saying, when i do the whole vidmod, try to flash the sector 7FFFFFAC from D500 to 0000
it gives me: Adress must reside within selected flash range...
i even tried to jumper 0J1...don't know whats happening....help help help!!!!!!!!!!

I just told you above, you have to select flash 2 on the left hand side of the jkeys screen. 7FFFFFAC is in flash 2.

[Smith2619]

and me? What other software can i use for my build config ?

[masterofall]

ok done that, thanks skinard....now i think i just need to do the hard drive....mine is Maxtor Diamond 120GB ATA...
i just need to fix the sector to 80gb and thats all? what exactly do i need to do with the hard drive to fix that? please help...very much appreciated...Thanks

[sukh77]

do a search for HD downsize.

[masterofall]

i have another question, once i downsize my HD, do i erase both flashes on my ird and then reflash my ird with virgin p080 firmware to marry it with the new downsized HD? if yes, i have edited the p080 flash on flashedit and it gave me bootstrap of yyyy and i manually changed it and matched it with the one jkeys read from my ird along with ird# and bks...am i right? if not, correct me...thanks

[skinerd]

ok done that, thanks skinard....now i think i just need to do the hard drive....mine is Maxtor Diamond 120GB ATA...
i just need to fix the sector to 80gb and thats all? what exactly do i need to do with the hard drive to fix that? please help...very much appreciated...Thanks


Download maxblast3.exe from ther maxtor web site. Set LBA to 160,086,528 , then reboot and do fast zero on it.

[sukh77]

Hey skinerd a question for you. If you save sector 3 and 131071 of HD before you downsize. Then convert the HD to 80gig apply sector 3 and 131071. I think this way you can leave current flash on the IRD and just plug HD back in IRD and you will be set. I think I even used this method recently. I think I am devloping signs of old timers disease. Let me know if you need any info on saving the sectors.

[skinerd]

Hey skinerd a question for you. If you save sector 3 and 131071 of HD before you downsize. Then convert the HD to 80gig apply sector 3 and 131071. I think this way you can leave current flash on the IRD and just plug HD back in IRD and you will be set. I think I even used this method recently. I think I am devloping signs of old timers disease. Let me know if you need any info on saving the sectors.


Seem like I have read about that at dishmod, but have never tried it, resizing, rezeroing, and re-marrying are easy for me to do now....

[skinerd]

i have another question, once i downsize my HD, do i erase both flashes on my ird and then reflash my ird with virgin p080 firmware to marry it with the new downsized HD? if yes, i have edited the p080 flash on flashedit and it gave me bootstrap of yyyy and i manually changed it and matched it with the one jkeys read from my ird along with ird# and bks...am i right? if not, correct me...thanks

For a 510 you MUST get a flash file the will open correctly under the "moved irdinfo" setting, it must give all correct data at that setting, if you get yyyy for anything, it is not correct and will not work even if you correct it. (of course you need to add your receiver number and boxkeys)
Get the correct flash file type. I have uploaded one to the tsop section, use it.

[sukh77]

But I think the steps might be easier to do for newbies rather then flashing the IRD. It seems like a bigger hasel to have people program the flash. Although it is good training.

[masterofall]

ok i got one which open correctly, its only U7, is it good enough or do i also need flash1 aswell or can i just download flash1 by streaming the ird with yellow card? i think i am good to go after this question, thanks for your support :)

[skinerd]

ok i got one which open correctly, its only U7, is it good enough or do i also need flash1 aswell or can i just download flash1 by streaming the ird with yellow card? i think i am good to go after this question, thanks for your support :)


I have repeatedly said, erase both, reflash 2 only...........1 will take care of itself, it is a mirror of sorts and also stores some non-pertainent data, like favorites lists etc. Don't worry about flash1 except to erase it.

Since I don't know your original build config, and I don't know the build config you loaded,I don't know if the virgin flash wil do anything more than marry the hard drive, once married you MAY have to reflash the original flash to get it to update.
This is especially true of newer 510's, as some older flashes, used to marry with, will not allow the receiver to pass switch test, which is not needed to marry the hard drive, but is to allow updates.

[masterofall]

DC8D is my orginal built, i haven't erased the orignal flashes so please tell me what do i need to do, just virgin it with PVR510-23AB-DFEA-10S-P080-U7 or thats not the right one? if you can point me to the right one, that will be great. Also i cannot see the LBA settings in the maxblast 3 as i go under install drives and it asks me to make it primary or additional storage and never asks for LBA settings...need more assistance

[sukh77]

U have to use the Dos version of maxblast not the windows.

[skinerd]

DC8D is my orginal built, i haven't erased the orignal flashes so please tell me what do i need to do, just virgin it with PVR510-23AB-DFEA-10S-P080-U7 or thats not the right one? if you can point me to the right one, that will be great. Also i cannot see the LBA settings in the maxblast 3 as i go under install drives and it asks me to make it primary or additional storage and never asks for LBA settings...need more assistance


DFEA is a later flash build, it don't really matter tho just for marrying the HD. DC8A is an earlier one, Use the DFEA, and if it marrys the HD and passes switch test, just leave it and let it update.

Maxblast3 will make a bootable floppy, install the 120 gig as the only harddrive in your PC, set drive jumper from CS to master. Run maxblast on it and go to utilitlies section, set hard drive size, change the LBA to the number I gave you, reboot the PC and see if the HD is now an 80 gig drive, if it is, run maxblast utility, zero drive, quick fill.

[masterofall]

thanks for everything skinard but i am not lucky enough for everything to go well...
i changed the jumper to master, followed everything you said...when i tried to change the drive LBA, it says, this process has not been completed sucessfully...hit done to exit...
i have no idea what i am doing wrong here....any assistance? please help me out here...
it was the only drive in my computer other than secondry slave which is my cd drive to run maxblast from...

[Smith2619]

ahem....what software can i use to replace my DCMD 508 ?

[skinerd]

ahem....what software can i use to replace my DCMD 508 ?

DC3A(D) in the tsop files should work.

[d_hetz]

DC3A(D) in the tsop files should work.

Skinard, can you please explain what are the build letters mean?
How do you know which build can work on a box?
What is the connection between build and the EEPROM, I mean when you create a virgin eeprom for a specific build how do you know what eeprom version do you need to type?

[Smith2619]

YoSKinerd....I downloaded the P067 software and put my boxkeys and RID in flashedit....fixed the CRC and also made a virgin eeprom, erased flash 1 and 2, and reflashed 2, and eeprom....let it stream update.. to like P203 or whatever the newest one is, it gives me the rid number... R8926616237-27.

[skinerd]

Skinard, can you please explain what are the build letters mean?
How do you know which build can work on a box?
What is the connection between build and the EEPROM, I mean when you create a virgin eeprom for a specific build how do you know what eeprom version do you need to type?


Build config doesn't "mean " anything, its' a progressive number, the larger the number, the later the build, I just have a feel for what works and what don't based on my experience and a lot of trial and error. By no means am I certain when recommending a specific config to replace another, just a best guess. You have to do exactly as I do, load it and try it.

[skinerd]

YoSKinerd....I downloaded the P067 software and put my boxkeys and RID in flashedit....fixed the CRC and also made a virgin eeprom, erased flash 1 and 2, and reflashed 2, and eeprom....let it stream update.. to like P203 or whatever the newest one is, it gives me the rid number... R8926616237-27.


Jkeys gives that number or onscreen system info?
Did HD marry? Does the receiver pass the switch test and function?

[Smith2619]

I guess the HD Married...i didnt touch it or anything....its on the onscreen system info screen

[skinerd]

Know the difference between "moved bootstrap" and "moved ird info" in flashedit?? Find out, it matters when selecting a virgin flash to load.

[Smith2619]

it said moved bootstrap next to it...

[skinerd]

should have been a moved Ird info........I have repeatedly posted that.......

[Smith2619]

ok well it worked and ll....these receivers were using subbed rom10s...is there anyway i can pop them to get the RID and BK off of em and then stick them back into the stream and use them as subbed cards again ?

[bud02]

skinerd I have been playing and I can't figure out how to save TSOP bin so that when you open it in flash edit it opens as move IRD info 5xx. The only file I have found that dose is the one you put in PF dc3a. You have mentioned it may times but I have not heard you go into any detail.

[Smith2619]

bumperoo

[Smith2619]

ive had this god damn 508 in the stream for the last day and its still at P068

[bud02]

ive had this god damn 508 in the stream for the last day and its still at P068
Are you letting it steam with power off with no card? Unless you have a virgin card thats how you have to do it.

[skinerd]

ive had this god damn 508 in the stream for the last day and its still at P068


Did you check how the flash opens in flashedit....cause the wrong flash type will NEVER update.

[skinerd]

YoSKinerd....I downloaded the P067 software and put my boxkeys and RID in flashedit....fixed the CRC and also made a virgin eeprom, erased flash 1 and 2, and reflashed 2, and eeprom....let it stream update.. to like P203 or whatever the newest one is, it gives me the rid number... R8926616237-27.


with that receiver number it ain't never going to work...jkeys and the system info screen and flash edit ALL have to agree on the receiver number....there are 3 flash types for a 508, look at flashedit 3 settings...I have explained it as best as I can.

[Smith2619]

its got the right RID and BK....Im under and programmed in moved IRD info..

[Smith2619]

but when i open it under regular and boostrap....live everything if FFs or XXs with that funky RID

[Smith2619]

eh ?

[bud02]

but when i open it under regular and boostrap....live everything if FFs or XXs with that funky RID
I will rephrase what skinerd is telling you. The flash that has to be used MUST OPEN in flash edit under (5XX moved IRDinfo) for the remarry and box key ect. changes to run.

Look for this file in the downloads (pvr508-20bb-dc3a-10s-p075-u7) and use it. Before you reflash open it in flash edit under Moved IRDinfo and make your changes (IR info box key)
Then save it as a personal dump, then also save virgin eeprom.
erase U6 & U7
flash U7 with the dump you just saved
reflash eeprom with virgin you just made
check location, 7FFFFFAC in flash 2 / = 0000 if not change it
Let it restream :)

[skinerd]

but when i open it under regular and boostrap....live everything if FFs or XXs with that funky RID

That's normal, that's why there are 3 settings in flashedit.........some flashes have the info in different locations,
sometimes trial and error are the only way.

[Smith2619]

ok so why isnt this damn thing updating

[skinerd]

ok so why isnt this damn thing updating


Not knowing what flash types you have or started with, the best option is to flash it up to at least P221......
Some 508's will need a "moved bootstrap" file some will need "moved ird info", you'll just have to try it.

[Smith2619]

Ok well I need some tsop backups for that, would you happen to have any?

[haixs1]

SKINERD question for you. At vidmod off you said c point have 3.3v? I have 0v at c point and 0v at a+b point when vidmod is off.When vidmod is on I have c point at 12v and a+b point have 2.9v. I still have problem with my dvr510 it won't marry with HD.I try everything but still not working.??????

[skinerd]

If a+b is 2.9 with vid mod on, and 0v with it off, you have something hooked wrong or cut wrong. a+b should always be 3.2v, with vid mod off that is what powers c,
now you switch vid mod on and open the connection for a+b to c, and a+b comes up to 2.9v,
so c is pulling a+b down when the vid mod is switched off.

something is not right , better find out before you continue, or you'll smoke something. If you have not already.

[Paul Bunyon]

I followed the above guide and got the jtag and vid mod ok no problem : now when I put in a Rom 10 I get the following: you are atempting to use a version of the smart card that is incompatable with this reciever. Error 349 My software version is P223 and Model Id reads DP 501/508/510. The 7ffffac is at 0000. Any Suggestions as to fixing this problem..

Thanks

[skinerd]

I followed the above guide and got the jtag and vid mod ok no problem : now when I put in a Rom 10 I get the following: you are atempting to use a version of the smart card that is incompatable with this reciever. Error 349 My software version is P223 and Model Id reads DP 501/508/510. The 7ffffac is at 0000. Any Suggestions as to fixing this problem..

Thanks
Is the harddrive resized to 80 gig?? 120gig won't allow blue cards or MC.

[Paul Bunyon]

That was my next step but I have been unable to figure out with maxblast how to change the LBA number .. I thought it would take the card with the HDD out of the system.. Guess not HUH.

[skinerd]

That was my next step but I have been unable to figure out with maxblast how to change the LBA number .. I thought it would take the card with the HDD out of the system.. Guess not HUH.

Yes, it should.......if it is at P223.......
Maxblast is easy......what can't you figure?

[sukh77]

Are u sure you have the power and IDE cable unplugged. You should be able to get the card to work. Unless you didn't get teh 7FFFFFAC to change to 0000. Double check both just in case.

[Paul Bunyon]

I went into maxblast and the only thing I can see is doing a partition change. From what I am reading I should be able to change The Lba number to 160086528 and be good to go.. But I do not see any instructions anyplace to do that..
I do have the HDD completely out and it is At P223 and the 7fffffac is at 0000. I do get a NAG about A serious hard drive problem when it first trys to seek the satalite..
If you just do a repartition what Value do you use.. Just figure 2/3 of the total . and does it have to be exactly 2/3. I have this on my old widows 98 computer maybe it will give me more options on my Windows xp I will try that tomorrow..

[skinerd]

I went into maxblast and the only thing I can see is doing a partition change. From what I am reading I should be able to change The Lba number to 160086528 and be good to go.. But I do not see any instructions anyplace to do that..
I do have the HDD completely out and it is At P223 and the 7fffffac is at 0000. I do get a NAG about A serious hard drive problem when it first trys to seek the satalite..
If you just do a repartition what Value do you use.. Just figure 2/3 of the total . and does it have to be exactly 2/3. I have this on my old widows 98 computer maybe it will give me more options on my Windows xp I will try that tomorrow..

No partitions, no format, LBA resize only, it is in utilities, set harddrive size. Then reboot, make sure LBA indeed changed, and do a quick zero fill.

[sukh77]

Make sure u are using the version that loads of the floppy not the windows version.

[wjukes]

skinerd, Please Help

I have done everything with my 510, vid mod, got the HD to marry, jtaged it and everything looks great but when I turn it off it tries to update the software with the do not disturb or unplug screen and that's where it stops.

It will not update just stays on that screen. I have tryed 3 different flashes and made virgin eeprom's with irdr and as I says it works but the update fails.

Any suggestions?

[skinerd]

See this thread http://www.dssftp.com/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=36973 post #24 and up......

[wjukes]

I would have never guessed that one, I am trying it now, thanks

#24 2 Days Ago
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i just needed to pop anycard in, take it out, then turn it off for an hour... thanks for everything guys....stay tuned for my thread on my 301!!

[wjukes]

I am still waiting but I still have the do not disturb message even without a card. Do you have a latest flash at 2.23? My build number is DFJD.

I will try reloading a latest dump if you have it to see if that works

Thanks

[wjukes]

OK tryed loading a later version 199 and 223 but when I load them all I get is "smart card not inserted correctly"

Please help with my expensive paperweight

[skinerd]

OK tryed loading a later version 199 and 223 but when I load them all I get is "smart card not inserted correctly"

Please help with my expensive paperweight

Then you prolly used a "moved bootstrap" flash, DFJA(D) needs "moved ird info"

[crowbar]

I've done everything. Vidmod, jtag, OJ1, reflashed with dc8a p080. My green light comes on and my hard drive makes noise but nothing appears on the tv. Justa black screen. No acquiring signal no update nothing. My receiver id is correct so I assume my boxkeys are correct. Can someone please help. Should I erase s60 and try to get an update that way?

help...

[sukh77]

The eeprom that you created needs to say DC8D not DC8A. Most likely that is the problem.

[crowbar]

I have tried almost all tsop firmware for 501 and 508. I can't find one that will open under moved ird. I'm using flashedit. Every one I download will open under moved bootstrap and the I select moved ird and nothing works. Green light goes on and the nothing. I even made a mistake once entering the ird number and the same problem happened. I guess I can't seem to get to the booting of the receiver. What should I do?

[skinerd]

I have posted in the fles section flashes to marry the harddrive that open correctly under "moved ird info".