no more High speed

[fubr]

Seems my perk Broadband which the good news is I wont be around here much because I cant deal with dial up at 14 bps.
the bad news is I have to find away to get a T1 line to my house from the boss,
He kives about 600 to 1000 yards away,
1>what is the longest you can stretch a t1 cat 5 from a hub?
2> what is the longest range wireless router
3> how many repeaters wil I need to drop that far.

I know if the big buildings and companys have that much networking going on.

I think for now I am going to dail into him as a proxy server from one of the machines there, I am gonna go build a server tomorrow.

[tigert422]

Seems my perk Broadband which the good news is I wont be around here much because I cant deal with dial up at 14 bps.
the bad news is I have to find away to get a T1 line to my house from the boss,
He kives about 600 to 1000 yards away,
1>what is the longest you can stretch a t1 cat 5 from a hub?
2> what is the longest range wireless router
3> how many repeaters wil I need to drop that far.

I know if the big buildings and companys have that much networking going on.

I think for now I am going to dail into him as a proxy server from one of the machines there, I am gonna go build a server tomorrow.
Why do that ??Why not go wireless??Let him have the wireless router and you have the card in your computer and wham you're on , just a suggest. Have a Great Day!!

[fubr]

Working on doing just that. Reading about how to make a antenea out of a can for a wireless net card.
to far away for the regular antena to reach and I am down in a hole where he is top of hill thru trees

[normsbro]

fubr i think there is a comany called buffalo? they deal in wireless internet stuff, i remember they have been featured on the screensavers and call for help when it was just techtv, check out the show notes..

[fubr]

ok thank u

[tigert422]

ok thank u
Hey furb check this out http://www.cantenna.com/howtouseit.html
Hope this will help you out, Have a Great Day

[fubr]

found that, They are all over ebay also.
I have the DI-524 here and a DWL-6510 pci Dlink card and am making a pig tail now
gonna use this one here with two old dish 500 or a primestar dish..
If I get time tomorow I am gonna hok the other end up see if I can see me from him. kinda a cool project, reminds me of old cb and ham radio days.
look what this guys did with his prime star. claim a 10 mile reach but I dont belive that!!!
If it does we are gonna hook up the whole neighbor hood thru his T1 line he has 19 ip addresses on his subnet scope. I know of at least 5 people who will jump on this for about 30 bucks a month we will give higher speed internet with there own IP.
Ah hell I am just gonna get me up first then maybe them.
here is the link/
http://www.wwc.edu/%7Efrohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html

[tigert422]

found that, They are all over ebay also.
I have the DI-524 here and a DWL-6510 pci Dlink card and am making a pig tail now
gonna use this one here with two old dish 500 or a primestar dish..
If I get time tomorow I am gonna hok the other end up see if I can see me from him. kinda a cool project, reminds me of old cb and ham radio days.
look what this guys did with his prime star. claim a 10 mile reach but I dont belive that!!!
If it does we are gonna hook up the whole neighbor hood thru his T1 line he has 19 ip addresses on his subnet scope. I know of at least 5 people who will jump on this for about 30 bucks a month we will give higher speed internet with there own IP.
Ah hell I am just gonna get me up first then maybe them.
here is the link/
http://www.wwc.edu/%7Efrohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html

I know you're right .Here is some more info that I came up with

Build Your Own Antenna: Easy Recipe

# 1-inch or 1 1/4 inch PVC Pipe (18-24 inches in length)
# Two PVC End Caps
# Four 4-40x3/4 inch Phillips Screws with Washer and Nut
# One Female Antenna Adapter

Sand the PVC pipe with medium sandpaper; follow up with a fine grain paper. Drill a hole in End Cap using a 5/8" Spade Drill (see photo above). Drill four holes to attach the Antenna Adapter (no bolts required for the Screw Mount Adapter that is included with the Kit). Use copper wire for your antenna either the larger #12 gauge or the smaller #14 gauge. You may use a straight copper wire for good range or to make a fancier OMNI with coils, simply curl the wire around a dowel rod or a pencil works nicely. Start with a 18-inch piece of copper wire and make four curls in the middle. Increase the length of copper wire as you add two-sets of eight curls. Experiment with your own designs.

Now remember, if you are wanting to "capture" Wi-Fi signals in your neighborhood then you need to build yourself an OMNI antenna (your signal is donut shaped; you are able to pick-up Wi-Fi signals in a 360 degree radius). The maximum dBi you can get is about 7-9dBi. If you want to shoot your signal for blocks or miles then build yourself a YAGI antenna. All of the Cantenna builds you see in the links we provide are directional YAGI-type antennas and you can easily build one that has 14-dBi or better. So do this: Build a YAGI and shoot the signal to a friend who has mounted one of your OMNI antennas on his porch (that's why we include two antenna adapters). If it's a clear line of sight, you can shoot it for miles. And now you can use NetStumbler software, which is FREE of course, to see what Wi-Fi signals you are picking up in your area and of course the strength of your signal. See the link below for NetStumbler software FREE download. (You Westerner's out there have it made; not as many trees to contend with or houses either; lots of clear lines of sight!)

We just returned from Monument Valley in Arizona; home of the Navaho Indian Reservation. We were picking up Wi-Fi signals in the middle of nowhere with our Wireless Cards and 7.0dBi OMNI Antenna attached to the roof of the cab. We could see no homes (or hogans), no people, no electric or telephone lines, nothing. So where were these signals coming from? There were no roads so we couldn't trace the signal. What we needed were a couple of horses! Remember, Wi-Fi signals that have a clear line of sight can travel for miles, not just feet. For those not familiar with Monument Valley click on Monument Valley for a view of the landscape. Imagine the possibilites of people living in Monument Valley shooting Wi-Fi signals in this beautiful part of the USA. Also, click on Wi-Fi National Record: 84 Miles for an idea of the range of Wi-Fi signals when you have a clear line of sight. By the way, Weber State University is located in Ogden, Utah, just north of Monument Valley. We wonder if anyone has tried shooting a signal from Colorado Springs to the top of Pikes Peak using a Parabolic or Yagi Directional Antenna. Nice clear line of sight. What fun.

It's up to you on whether to use solder or epoxy. Some like the epoxy because it is very easy to melt the inner plastic ring on the adapters. But a lot of our customers like to use solder in order to get a better connection. CAUTION: When you use epoxy (we like the J-B Kwik Epoxy which comes in two tubes and is very fast drying; see photo) be sure your antenna wire is making a good connection with the tip of the antenna pin on the adapter and then coat the adapter and antenna with the epoxy. Have some fun and experiment with both. You can easily remove the epoxy even though it has hardened. One more point: We like to use the Panel Mount Adapter with the 1 1/4 inch PVC Pipe as you can see in the photos and then with the Screw Mount Adapter (no bolts required) we like to use the 1-inch PVC Pipe for a nice fit. Follow some of the directions below for designing your own antenna. Here are some photo's of our own homemade antennas.

Mount your antenna outside and share your connection with friends and family.

Now for more directions on building your own YAGI/OMNI antennas click on the Making a Cantenna site which has some great pictures for you to follow to make your own Cantenna and Rob Flickenger's Antenna on the Cheap. Of course you have to visit Andrew Clapp who is a great resource for customizing and building your own antenna. There's more: Seattle Wireless Hardware Links is simply delicious (probably the best Wi-Fi resource on the internet; scroll down the page; sort of overwhelming!) with everything you need to know about Wi-Fi including links to all kinds of antenna builds and then there's the fun Homebrew Antenna Shootout with lots of nice photographs of antenna projects. Take a moment to read some of these links; it really is very easy and inexpensive to design your own Pringles/Cantenna/YAGI/OMNI antennas. Also, learn the location of hotspots around the country at Wi-Fi FREE Spot. Also click on J-Wire's Hotspot Finder for Hotspots in the U.S. and Worldwide. These lists are growing fast! Finally, a great source for Wi-Fi News is Wi-Fi Planet.

Now just one more link to go to: Click on the Spider Antenna to see just how easy it is to make your own antenna with the female adapters. Imagine what you might be able to do in terms of designing your own Wi-Fi antenna, for example, adding some length to the antenna wire to increase the range of your antenna. Add a reflector to this antenna (with a peach can or whatever you have around the house) and you have yourself a nice YAGI antenna. Add a magnet and you have a nice Mobile Antenna to attach to your vehicle. Very easy to measure Signal Strength, etc., on your antennas with the NetStumbler software (which is FREE of course and a NEW version has just been released see the link below)! Go have some FUN!

Concerned about antenna cable loss? The difference in antenna loss between the 60" pigtail and the 72" pigtail is very small. So what's the difference you ask? Try a minuscule 0.4dB loss. Here's a FUN calculator for you to measure antenna loss on your different sized antenna cables. Click on Timesmicrowave Calculator and in the Product box scroll down and enter: LMR-100A; in the Frequency (Mhz) box enter: 2400; in the Run Length box enter the length in feet: 5' (60-inches) and 6' (72-inches); now hit the calculator button. Compare the db Loss in the box that reads Total Run Attenuation dB. For each foot of LMR-100A beyond 6'or 72-inches figure a loss of around 0.4dB.

Finally, for those who enjoy wardriving you must click on Jeff Duntemann's Wardriving FAQ and of course NetStumbler.com and NetStumbler.org . Keep up to date on what's going on with Wi-Fi: 802.11 Planet to get the latest news on Wi-Fi Business and Technology. And then the ultimate resource for wardriving is the Wardriving Tools and Utilities site. Click on this link and you are in for a great treat (prepare to spend the day). You'll be surprised at the number of Wi-Fi sniffers on the market. NetStumbler is not the only one, but of course it's a great piece of software and FREE. (Note: NetStumbler version 0.4.0 has just been released (thanks to Marius Milner) and the newer version supports most cards based on the Intersil Prism/Prism2 chipset, not just the cards with the Hermes chipset (Orinoco cards), which means your Linksys, Senao, D-Link Wireless PC cards, USB Wireless Adapters, and PCI Adapters should work with the newer version just fine.

[aid]

Working on doing just that. Reading about how to make a antenea out of a can for a wireless net card.
to far away for the regular antena to reach and I am down in a hole where he is top of hill thru trees

Question: My neighbor has broadband.... he has it encrypted... I call him a selfish bugger.....I asked him for the user name and password... he refused....I said I would share the costs... he told me to get lost.... Now my question is should I take him out to the back forty and kick his arse or figure a way to steal his signal... After all he is bombarding my property with his radio signal.... aid

[Soundguy]

Fubar
If you want to go copper you can get a Cat5 extender / line driver from Black Box or others. They are pretty cheep.
Most of the modems out there most likely wont make the distance you note unless you are out in the country away from any interference. You cant get any real distance in the city at least where I work you cant.
We do a lot of this at work and copper is more dependable I have to say.

[Bandit5906]

Question: My neighbor has broadband.... he has it encrypted... I call him a selfish bugger.....I asked him for the user name and password... he refused....I said I would share the costs... he told me to get lost.... Now my question is should I take him out to the back forty and kick his arse or figure a way to steal his signal... After all he is bombarding my property with his radio signal.... aid

AccessDiver.com for his p/w, etc.

[Ohms]

Fubr old pal. I can't believe you didn't ask me about this :)

You don't need copper. You need fiber or wireless. Either one will do just fine. If you don't have line of site, or a good wireless path, then just run some MultiMode fiber between the two locations, and hang a tranciever on each end. It's like a 1000' ethernet cable. Cat5 copper is only good for about 100', but fiber can go for miles.

message me later and I'll see if I can get you a deal.

[Bandit5906]

found that, They are all over ebay also.
I have the DI-524 here and a DWL-6510 pci Dlink card and am making a pig tail now
gonna use this one here with two old dish 500 or a primestar dish..
If I get time tomorow I am gonna hok the other end up see if I can see me from him. kinda a cool project, reminds me of old cb and ham radio days.
look what this guys did with his prime star. claim a 10 mile reach but I dont belive that!!!
If it does we are gonna hook up the whole neighbor hood thru his T1 line he has 19 ip addresses on his subnet scope. I know of at least 5 people who will jump on this for about 30 bucks a month we will give higher speed internet with there own IP.
Ah hell I am just gonna get me up first then maybe them.
here is the link/
http://www.wwc.edu/%7Efrohro/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html

Have you looked at the new max range pci adaptors? They are now as fast as an ethernet cable and have huge range.

I have a omni hooked up at the boss's house and the combo allow me to dive into his system 300 yds away, through trees, two tractors, and various cars/trucks. Also a friend two driveways further away uses his system.

[neolan]

Seems my perk Broadband which the good news is I wont be around here much because I cant deal with dial up at 14 bps.
the bad news is I have to find away to get a T1 line to my house from the boss,
He kives about 600 to 1000 yards away,
1>what is the longest you can stretch a t1 cat 5 from a hub?
2> what is the longest range wireless router
3> how many repeaters wil I need to drop that far.

I know if the big buildings and companys have that much networking going on.

I think for now I am going to dail into him as a proxy server from one of the machines there, I am gonna go build a server tomorrow.

1- 600 to 1000 yards migh be a bit far to sto stretch teh T1 on CAT5
2- This link will show how you can use CISCO Aironets 1200 or 1100 to creat a bridged wirless hxxp://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps4570/products_configuration_example09186a00805b9b87.sht ml
The distance is ok for Wirless you will need to buy extrenal antennas
3- no need for repeaters all you have to do is setup the Radio int Aironet for max range not throuput.

[fubr]

Fubr old pal. I can't believe you didn't ask me about this :)

You don't need copper. You need fiber or wireless. Either one will do just fine. If you don't have line of site, or a good wireless path, then just run some MultiMode fiber between the two locations, and hang a tranciever on each end. It's like a 1000' ethernet cable. Cat5 copper is only good for about 100', but fiber can go for miles.

message me later and I'll see if I can get you a deal.

Where were you over a year and a half OHMS!!

I would half to run it 7 miles thru the woods for it to work now :)

[Ohms]

HAHAHA 7 miles would still be ok with fiber. I didn't look at the original date.

Catch ya later

[Soundguy]

we run Cat5e 1000' runs every day and they work just fine. every modern stadium in the countrys sound system uses Cat5 runs between DSP boxes sometimes 1500' or longer and we have done some that are 2500' with line drivers and buffers and they work just fine. I have some runs inbetween buildings in DC that are over 4000' linking life safety voice evac systems DSP processors and carrying mulit channel audio, they all work very well (thank God or I would be screwed).
Fiber is my first choice but sometimes its not avaliable and the manhole duct banks are already full of Cat5 and we have no choice.
It will work if you do it right.
If you want to really do it right and dont want to string cable in trees use point to point microwave, its cheeper then you may think and you can build a lot of it yourself if the kits are still on the market?

[Soundguy]

another option may be cable modems in a point to point configuration. if you are going to run cable. that may be the lowest cost option

[aid]

AccessDiver.com for his p/w, etc.

Tks for response Bandit..only one problem... I downloaded AcessDiver and I know diddly squat....

It's a bitch to be challenged ..............need a instruction book on "AccessDiver for Dummies"...........aid