The Avenger (Update)

[thehillbilly]

Most of you probably read on here about The Avenger threatening to post all of Mili's personal info, bank account, customer info, etc. and making him famous. He was suppose to go live with a website tonight at 6:00 PM.

He contacted me shortly after making that post here and we started talking about the consequences of posting such info. I doubted that he had that kind of info and he gladly furnished me enough to prove he had plenty to post, including my credit card info.. WTF????

Anyway, after a few days of emailing and pm'ing each other back and forth, he agreed not to post the information live on a website. He still has this info none the less, which is a big concern to me. I convinced him that posting that info would not be a strike just against Mili, but everyone of his customers as well which has done nothing to him personally.

He gave his word that the information would not go public. How good his word is I do not know.

Hillbilly

[Dulley]

R O T F L M A O

[Rax]

I find no humor in thehillbilly's post

[bols2dawaLL]

thanks theHillbilly - gotta regain control over all this

and thankyou Avenger for being wise .

[Biggen1]

Hillbilly: Thanks for taking the time, and interest to solve this, and other problems.
Mili, I hope you can take preventive measures, where this can't occur again.
I understand, I could have been a " Victim of Circumstances " but my Family, and friends ,wouldn't have understood. I'm over 21, and know better, and I can say that the light bulb, is glowing brighter now.. Life is a learning experience .... Thank you for your time........

[thehillbilly]

I find no humor in thehillbilly's post
Neither did Mili or myself. That crap was very disturbing and hopefully The Avenger, who ever the hell he is, will go on leave well enough alone.

Hillbilly

[Chief]

Hillbilly, you are to be praised for your efforts. Mili has a pretty good idea who this is, and yes, the guy very well might have carried out his threat. I'm not going to comment on him, who he may or may not be, or what he's done in the past..it's best to just let someone like this alone. Who knows what he really has and hasn't - but why take a chance.

Again, many thanks. :) Chief

[thehillbilly]

Hillbilly, you are to be praised for your efforts. Mili has a pretty good idea who this is, and yes, the guy very well might have carried out his threat. I'm not going to comment on him, who he may or may not be, or what he's done in the past..it's best to just let someone like this alone. Who knows what he really has and hasn't - but why take a chance.

Again, many thanks. :) Chief
No thanks needed...Anyone that has my personal info too, I think I had a selfish motive involved in keeping him from going ape crazy on a website.

Hillbilly

[smilingjack]

These have been sad days to watch.

I hope that everyone has learned something from this.

The next time, if there is ever a next time, I sincerely hope the "support forums" stick with "support" and do not get involved in disputes between other people like they did with the Magician and Louis. Just report, don't get involved.

When you take a side or support a position, right or wrong, you become a target, A principal, whether you are or not. Your support of one side or another indicates to some people you are a principal.

People out there are starting to think that Milli is the magician and thehillbilly is Louis from their accusations and charges against each other.

I admit (and people will attest to it) that when everything is quiet and working nice I like to "stir a little shit" and get things (debates) going but this got way out of hand.

Let it end NOW. I am sure we can find some body else to pick on for a while. Try Trinity, his Super project seems to be stillborn despite months of the Hype.

These forums are supposed to be support for the "End Users" Whether you are also dealers of the products or not. Whether you are the Principals or not. Please Keep the two seperated. Keep the "End Users" informed as to the facts as a neutral party, please do not take sides.

It was the "Side Taking" that caused the problems on these two forums, not the issue or the involved parties themselves. Other forums did not have these problems because they did not take sides. If they dd anything they just reported the issues.

The actual involved parties are not available to slam, slander, flame or blame so you become the target of the peoples wrath when you take sides.

Everyone suffers. No one gains and the problems are not resolved.

In this season of hope and joy, let us see an end to the bickering and fighting here at home and remember......U. S. AIR FORCE, AIM HIGH .....them arabs are sittin on 10 foot high Camels.

You don't want to hurt a Camel, the S.P.C.A. will get on your butt.

Smiling Jack

[myrdog]

Mili, Hillbilly, mods etc.
This post by Avenger (d#$@!t), threatened not only mili's personal info - but his client list & cc info etc. Hillbilly mentioned above "...even had his cc info." Hillbilly did u ever get the charges reversed on your card - and presume your cc company knows who?
What security measures have been put in place to ensure if any of us give you our cc info going forward that it does not fall into the "wrong hands".

Thanks,

[thehillbilly]

Mili, Hillbilly, mods etc.
This post by Avenger (d#$@!t), threatened not only mili's personal info - but his client list & cc info etc. Hillbilly mentioned above "...even had his cc info." Hillbilly did u ever get the charges reversed on your card - and presume your cc company knows who?
What security measures have been put in place to ensure if any of us give you our cc info going forward that it does not fall into the "wrong hands".

Thanks,
Yes, I charged back the amounts of the purchases and had my credit filed as stolen. So, I will eventually get my money back. I will press it as far as I can on finding the person who did it.

Hillbilly

[mili]

Seriously doubt anyone has my current CC info and my customer's info, my bank info is no secret, deposits go in there all the time. I also don't have any illusions about my identity being a secret, four years in the business and 6 years in the hobby has no room for total secrecy. Anyway, there is no need for name calling and posting personal stuff all over, it wont accomplish a thing.

mili

[tazmnaz]

I know I am both curious and paranoid, but there is no question that this is a good day. I am so glad this ended peacefully. Let's keep things as they once were and will be again.
Happy Happy Day!

[Yoshie]

For god's sake why in the world would any1 use there personal (REAL) Credit Cards to buy something ilegal is just beyond my conprehention, I really fell sorry for any1 that has had his (her's) CC or any other personal info stolen somehow.. But Im sure most people should know by now that there is such things as "Prepaid Credit cards" NO real SSN need it, NO real DOB, NO Real Phone Number needed.. The Only thing that has to be real is an address where the credit card(s) will be mailed to...
People I really think is time to be a little more carefull with what we do Online
ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT IS DSS RELATED