My DVR hard drive... And the Files on it....

[sonofaglitch]

Does anyone have the programs required to pull the recorded stuff onto my c0mputer...

[lefty]

Does anyone have the programs required to pull the recorded stuff onto my c0mputer...

Those files are on the Yahoo Dish pages.

I'm working on a hardware mod/addition to my 501 to make pulling the programs off a PVR onto a computer easy using the software from dishrip. I'll post how-to's if there's any interest. I need to get my notebook setup with a bigger hard drive before going any further with the project.


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[sukh77]

Post the guide or program dude.

[lefty]

Post the guide or program dude.

I'll respect the moderators views at the Yahoo Groups wishes and not post it here.

On Yahoo Groups, search for Dishmod and Dishrip Forums, join up, then head to the files sections.

That's how I found it.

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[sukh77]

I didn't mean the one posted on Dishrip. I was talking about the one you are going to put together.

[lefty]

I didn't mean the one posted on Dishrip. I was talking about the one you are going to put together.

Will do. The project is still in the works. I want to set up both my 501 and my ReplayTV to have either an IDE port or a USB port to plug into to easily connect to a PC or a Notebook in order to write to DVD. There are several hardware hurdles to get over right now. I'll have pics and diagrams for it. The expansion port on the back of these units is useless for anything.

Thanks,

[eddiemiller]

Will do. The project is still in the works. I want to set up both my 501 and my ReplayTV to have either an IDE port or a USB port to plug into to easily connect to a PC or a Notebook in order to write to DVD. There are several hardware hurdles to get over right now. I'll have pics and diagrams for it. The expansion port on the back of these units is useless for anything.

Thanks,

Sounds cool , can't wait for it! I know that expansion port thing piss's me off , what did they orginally intend for it to be used for ? do you know?

[speed]

I found the best to be a capture card in the PC. Actually, I use an ATI ALL_IN_Wonder (AIW) Radeon 32MB video card that I use. I recently just ordered there new AIW 9600 pro 128MB for $162 (I also like playing games, extracting video from my Video camera, etc). THe reason I use the ATI's AIW Bds. is they also support DD (AC3) on the DVD.

For my applciations it is the perfect device and I can record/re-record the movie to my PC. Or write directly from the PVR live directly to DVD. That is a BIG PLUS for me. I'm buring Porn while I'm watching it for the first time. :D :D

Now I'm testing a way to take my PVR output from the TV Out jack on the IRD and run it through the inside RG62 cable in the house using a diplexer to the PC here in my room. This way I can watch what is on in the main room, record it or watch a recorded event on the PVR and write to DVD or save on PC for editing.

WIthout a capture device in your PC and you just want to suck the data off the hard disk you have a few options.

1. remove disk and connect to PC. - Time consuming and dangerous. Like HD Crash
2. Test - Here is something you can try. I have used this in the past and it may work in this applcation. Buy a GWC USB 2.0 to IDE Adapter Cable Accessory from NewEgg for roughly $35. WHat this does is takes a IDE device and converts it to a USB compliant 2.0 or 1.1 device. I have used this to backup a HD so I would'nt have to physically put it in a PC. I have no more IDE ports left in my PC. It makes the HD, CDROM, CD-RW Device, etc. look like it is attached via USB.

Now here is where the fun comes in. Replace the IDE cable in the PVR with Two end connectors, one attach to HD and the other hanging out the IRD or mounted would be nice. THe test would be if you could do this and connect it to your laptop or pc via USB, you would be able to suck the contents of the PVR.

DANGER NOTE: DO this at YOUR own risk!
I do not know if it would work with the HD/IDE still connectdd to the IRD (If you disconnect the IDE cable from the Main Board in the IRD and then attach this device it would work). IF you want it bad enough you can try it. Maybe you can fabricate or buy an IDE A/B switch, if you could this would probably work. SO, it may work and only cost you around $40-50 with cables. Then again a WIN-TV deluxe captrue card is $39-$49 with NERO expressvision II editing SW.

Food for thought.

[Chapster99]

Interesting read and info, speed! Thx for taking the time to write such a 'To The Point' and well written piece of info... ;)

[speed]

Interesting read and info, speed! Thx for taking the time to write such a 'To The Point' and well written piece of info... ;)

Thanks Chapster99, I thought it might be a little long winded.

And Merry Xmas to you and yours.

[lefty]

DANGER NOTE: DO this at YOUR own risk!
I do not know if it would work with the HD/IDE still connectdd to the IRD (If you disconnect the IDE cable from the Main Board in the IRD and then attach this device it would work). IF you want it bad enough you can try it.

This is exactly my project. I have two options right now.

1-a. Use my USB/IDE adaptor (got it fo .99 on Ebay, but the shipping brought it up to $16.00) and mount an extra IDE connector on the back of the IRD.
1-b. Use my USB/IDE adaptor and leave it inside the IRD, putting a USB port on the back of the IRD. Would leaving that device plugged into the IDE cable be a problem? I think not because most USB devices get power from the USB cable.
2. Here's where things get tricky. These USB/IDE adaptors use a 4 pin Molex plug to power the HD. Should the IRD be unplugged or would it be safe with it plugged in and powered off? I think unplugged since the IRD is never truly 'powered' down - it's just idle. Can I just use the USB/IDE power thru a 'Y' cable to the drive? Would doing so hurt an IRD to 'back power' it using this method? How about 1 AMP diodes to control the voltage flow to make sure both devices are safe?

If those items could be easily determined, then it's an easy project.

One big disadvantage is being SURE to remember to unplug the IRD before doing a download of files.

I do have an ATI AIW 8500DV in my computer. That would be easier if I had the cable already run in my house. But hanging more cable would be a pain.

I did see on the Yahoo Groups where one guy mounted the hard drive in a removable drive tray. That would be another neat way of doing it. Then just unplug the IRD, take it to the PC and pop it in. Hmmm.....

Tired....must sleep..........laterness.
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[speed]

This is exactly my project. I have two options right now.

1-a. Use my USB/IDE adaptor (got it fo .99 on Ebay, but the shipping brought it up to $16.00) and mount an extra IDE connector on the back of the IRD.
1-b. Use my USB/IDE adaptor and leave it inside the IRD, putting a USB port on the back of the IRD. Would leaving that device plugged into the IDE cable be a problem? I think not because most USB devices get power from the USB cable.
2. Here's where things get tricky. These USB/IDE adaptors use a 4 pin Molex plug to power the HD. Should the IRD be unplugged or would it be safe with it plugged in and powered off? I think unplugged since the IRD is never truly 'powered' down - it's just idle. Can I just use the USB/IDE power thru a 'Y' cable to the drive? Would doing so hurt an IRD to 'back power' it using this method? How about 1 AMP diodes to control the voltage flow to make sure both devices are safe?

If those items could be easily determined, then it's an easy project.

One big disadvantage is being SURE to remember to unplug the IRD before doing a download of files.

I do have an ATI AIW 8500DV in my computer. That would be easier if I had the cable already run in my house. But hanging more cable would be a pain.

I did see on the Yahoo Groups where one guy mounted the hard drive in a removable drive tray. That would be another neat way of doing it. Then just unplug the IRD, take it to the PC and pop it in. Hmmm.....

Tired....must sleep..........laterness.
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The main obstacle is the IDE end of it, the cable/controller. You would have to disconnect/de-activate the IDE cable from the HD going to the IRD. Also keep in mind that the IRD is always writing to the HD when it is on (That's why you can re-play what you are currently watching even though you did not hit the record button) so disconnecting the IDE cable and powering on the IRD you are going to get an HD Nag/error on the IRD if you leave the pwr attached.

THe best way would be to add an external single USB/FW HD enclosure. (See links below), and connect the IDE (IRD) cable to a USB/FW to IDE bridge. (See link below). This should take IDE output of the IRD and convert it to USB2.0/1394 Firewire. Then just maybe using a USB port expansion device you just should be able to tap into it. But now your talking about a $45 for USB/FW external HD enclosure with power/fans plus $60 IDE to USB/FW bridge and you also need a USB cable.

As I stated previously, the capture device in the PC right now is the easiest and best way to go.

Then again, just for you :), you could order cable for 1 month for less than that that and have them run the RG62 for you to two rooms and then cancel after 30 days. :cool:

Links: Copy from drivecase over and paste into browser address bar.
USB/FW Bridge: drivecase.com/drivecase/usb20firi13t.html
Hd Esternal enclosure: drivecase.com/drivecase/sindriven.html

[geekygizmo]

I just got a virgin 510 to play with, If I am to continue and test it I feel it is imperative to be able to rip recordings at will, I like the idea of the usb to IDE adapter in parallel with the hard drive and pvr, it would be a simple matter to temporarily disable I/O from the PVR so the USB can take over and return control back to the PVR when done. I have done some simple tests to prove this theory. With the 510 playing live I am able to disconnect the IDE cable to the HD with no nags and after a while reconnect it and everything works fine. What can't be done with the HD disconnected is any PVR functions and channel changes, either will cause nags and reboots.

I found "Big boys" schematics of the expansion port on the 5100/5800 and if the 510 holds true to those prints then there are easy points on the board that can be attached to disable the internal IDE buss, it could be as simple as when you plug in the USB, the 5v it applies to the adapter could also trigger the "Disable" point on the PVR board. Just make sure you are watching LIVE, and NOT RECORDING and DON'T CHANGE CHANNELS OR ANY PVR FUNCTIONS DURING PC XFER.

Of course there are gotca's that will be found but I think for the most part this theory may work. If we can USB to the PVR at will it will make a viable source for DVD's etc.

Hope this helps, I will post more when I get more into it.

Geeky!

PS, the expansion port was made to add more HD's to the unit as well as IO to the main processor for those who are still wondering.