which dish, again

[chuckb01]

I just got a 3700 and when I jtag it, it says it is a 2800. What gives? Also not unlike the 2700, this one also will not work with a dish500. It seems to only pick up one satellit and I don't think it even picks up all the transponders on that one. What type of dish would I need to pick up both 119 and 110 satellites and would I need any type of switch? Also would the 3700 pick up both satellites with a dishpro adapter on my dish500? Thanks.

[skinerd]

2800, 3700, both use the exact same flash file.
Your Dish 500, is it a DP500? If so you need a DP adapter for your 3700.

[JT]

I just got a 3700 and when I jtag it, it says it is a 2800. What gives? Also not unlike the 2700, this one also will not work with a dish500. It seems to only pick up one satellit and I don't think it even picks up all the transponders on that one. What type of dish would I need to pick up both 119 and 110 satellites and would I need any type of switch? Also would the 3700 pick up both satellites with a dishpro adapter on my dish500? Thanks.

Go to www.bellexpress.vu and on the left you will see a link to how to's. Under receivers and dishes there is a complete explanation of the difference between DP and Legacy receivers and dishes. Most of the other newbie questions are addressed in that same section as well. Aiming can be tricky. I use a sat beeper to get it exactly right with the least effort.

[chuckb01]

Go to www.bellexpress.vu and on the left you will see a link to how to's. Under receivers and dishes there is a complete explanation of the difference between DP and Legacy receivers and dishes. Most of the other newbie questions are addressed in that same section as well. Aiming can be tricky. I use a sat beeper to get it exactly right with the least effort.

Thanks, I'll go there and have a look. I have no problem aiming the dish. That's easy actually. I'm also using the 500 dish for a 301.010 receiver I have and it works great for that and I get both satellites with no problem. Thanks.

[chuckb01]

2800, 3700, both use the exact same flash file.
Your Dish 500, is it a DP500? If so you need a DP adapter for your 3700.

You know, I've been asked that before and I really don't know. I looked the dish over very carefully and all it says on the dish is dish 500. On the lnb, it says 110W on one side and 119W on the other side. On a little aluminum tag in the middle of the lnb it says Dish digital lnb, made in Japan. And that's about it. But actually what I wanted to know really was what kind of dish would I need to use with a 3700, which I now understand is close to a 2700,2800 and a few others. If I were going to use it here, I would probably get the adapter you mentioned, but it's for someone else. Thanks fo the help

[derick881]

If it's a DishPro it will say DP in black letters on the front. If it isn't black then it's a Legacy lnb. Sounds like it is DP. You will need a DP adapter. You can buy a DP lnb on flea bay probably cheaper than a DP adapter.

[chuckb01]

If it's a DishPro it will say DP in black letters on the front. If it isn't black then it's a Legacy lnb. Sounds like it is DP. You will need a DP adapter. You can buy a DP lnb on flea bay probably cheaper than a DP adapter.

I think there is a place on the front where a sticker might have been that is now gone. Anyhow it works good with a 301.010 ird, no switch needed and it only picks up 119 with a 2700 ird. So it's probably a dp, right? What a bunch of confusing crap, gees. Thanks for the help

[Jamr1]

yes

[chuckb01]

Go to www.bellexpress.vu and on the left you will see a link to how to's. Under receivers and dishes there is a complete explanation of the difference between DP and Legacy receivers and dishes. Most of the other newbie questions are addressed in that same section as well. Aiming can be tricky. I use a sat beeper to get it exactly right with the least effort.

I'm still some what confused, so one simple question. If I have a 3700 or 2700, ird, what dish would I want to buy to receive all the main channels for dish? With 2 lnbs.
I don't know who thought all these terms up but I checked out the site you mentioned and it's real nice and very informative. But a dual lnb or double lnb should refer to a dish with 2 lnbs, I think. One that has 2 outputs for 2 irds should be refered to as a lnb with 2 outputs. Simple. But as it is, it's difficult to understand, and I was an electronic tech for over 15 years, closer to 20. Thanks for the help.

[JT]

I agree that Charlie sure confused the crap out of things by coming up with so many lnb's and switches. Basically you have four integrated lnb types. You can have a Legacy twin (110 & 119, two receivers), a legacy quad (110 & 119, four receivers), Dish Pro twin (110 & 119, two receivers) and Dish Pro quad (110 & 119, four receivers). Legacy receivers will not push a DP lnb, but a Dish Pro receiver will push a Legacy lnb. There are also the really old types of lnb's that are Legacy single or dual. The dual is just two singles stuck together and using the same pan to receiver 110 and 119. The really old types of lnb's did not have the integrated switch in the lnb, so you had to mount the switches externally and buy them seperately. Confused yet? You can have legacy and DP switches too, and there is an adaptor so you can use legacy receivers with a DP lnb.

[chuckb01]

I agree that Charlie sure confused the crap out of things by coming up with so many lnb's and switches. Basically you have four integrated lnb types. You can have a Legacy twin (110 & 119, two receivers), a legacy quad (110 & 119, four receivers), Dish Pro twin (110 & 119, two receivers) and Dish Pro quad (110 & 119, four receivers). Legacy receivers will not push a DP lnb, but a Dish Pro receiver will push a Legacy lnb. There are also the really old types of lnb's that are Legacy single or dual. The dual is just two singles stuck together and using the same pan to receiver 110 and 119. The really old types of lnb's did not have the integrated switch in the lnb, so you had to mount the switches externally and buy them seperately. Confused yet? You can have legacy and DP switches too, and there is an adaptor so you can use legacy receivers with a DP lnb.


I got a headache!
Has anyone ever tried using a DTV dish at all? Just to experiment with. I know they usually only have one lnb.

[chuckb01]

Yeah, after doing some reading, I have it figured out.

I have a Legacy Dual/Dual. It has two dual LNBs connected to a Y. Now I know I can connect the x000 to just one LNB and have my 301 connected to both with the SW-21. When it warms up, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

I didn't know that Mili had this info on bellexpress.vu otherwise I would have already read up on it. And I was just to lazy to search the net.:D

Yeah, it's good stuff but between the different setups dish has, and the way it is written, it can confuse the hell out of you. I know I still don't have the answers but I'm going over all the information I'm accumalating.

[JT]

Yeah, after doing some reading, I have it figured out.

I have a Legacy Dual/Dual. It has two dual LNBs connected to a Y. Now I know I can connect the x000 to just one LNB and have my 301 connected to both with the SW-21. When it warms up, I'll give it a try and see what happens.

I didn't know that Mili had this info on bellexpress.vu otherwise I would have already read up on it. And I was just to lazy to search the net.:D

It sounds like you have a twin dual lnb....as opposed to a twin single lnb which would only have one out for each lnb, and only run one IRD after combined with SW21 switch.

[JT]

I got a headache!
Has anyone ever tried using a DTV dish at all? Just to experiment with. I know they usually only have one lnb.

Sure. I've set up a few systems with DTV dishes. You just aim each dish at each bird and then combine the signal with an external SW21 switch. This is essentially the same thing as the twin single or dual Charlie set ups like 00 is using, but each lnb has it's own pan. This actually works pretty good because you don't compromise your aiming to accomodate two different satellites at once. You can aim each dish perfectly and end up with better signal strength. The only lnb that's not interchangeable is the satC lnb for Dave's 110. That lnb is an oddball and can only be used for Dave 110.

[chuckb01]

It sounds like you have a twin dual lnb....as opposed to a twin single lnb which would only have one out for each lnb, and only run one IRD after combined with SW21 switch.

WHAT??? That sounds better backwards. LOLOL