Diffrence Between Dishpro & Legacy LNB

[rayman190]

Hi all,

I have three 3100 recievers that I need to connect off of one dish 500 aimed at 110 & 119 and one dish 300 aimed at 148. Right how I am using the twin LNB's that I came with the dishes and tried to run then through a DP-34 but it did not work. Since I recently bought then are the LNB's Dishpro or do they ship the dishes with legacy LNBS? How can I tell the diffrence between a DishPro & legacy LNB.

Thks
Rayman :cool:

[Crazy1_79]

it will say DP on it somewhere if it is dp

[smilingjack]

The other answer is correct but there is an easy way for newby's

The legacy Dish 500 has two places to connect wires to them, 119 & 110 and you need a external SW21 to make it into 1 wire to the house.

The DP 500 has only 1 wire, the switch is inside the head.

[Crazy1_79]

they do make dp single lnb's smiling jack, very rare but i have seen them. others I have see don't have the DP on the front like this one but they do say DP on the sticker.

[smilingjack]

I did not know that they made Dish 500's with a single LNB.

He seems to have several but he was asking about Dispro 500.

All the LNB's are the same, including Daves old singles, all will work with Charlie, the differance is the internal or external switches, ther eis a place that explains about switches and conversions.

I will look for it for you.

[Crazy1_79]

yes, they made dishpro 500 with single dishpro lnbs. hooked to a dp switch of some sort, perhaps the 34, not sure on the switch.

[Crazy1_79]

It looks like the only switch that will work is an SW-64. It is for legacy dishes and supports 3 satellites and 4 IRDs.
I think I just seen one going pretty resonable on Fleabay if you are in the market for one. The sw64 switch I mean. I can't remember who started this thread right now, but that is who this is directed at.

[smilingjack]

If it's a single LNB what does it need a switch for ?

[Crazy1_79]

when I say single, I mean two single lnb's two seperate lnbs without the switch built in, I usually call the other ones a twin or a quad, sorry for the misinterpretation.

[smilingjack]

NO problem we are all trying to help out.

I was getting confused And I know a little about the things, I can imagine what the newby is thinking

Try this place RAYMAN

THESE GUYS CAN HOOK EVERYTHING TO EVERYTHING

techweenies.com/dss-1.shtml

I think SW64 is the right one though

[Crazy1_79]

Good info, thanks 00 never seen that before over at bell, I didn't know you had to run checkswitch before switching from legacy to pro before hooking up legacy.

[Crazy1_79]

or pro to legacy I guess I meant

[rayman190]

Hi all,

Looked at the links and called Bell ExpressVu. They said that if you buy a dish or dish reciever combo they come with legacy LNB's because the new recievers can run on both. They said that you need to upgrade to the Dishpro LNBs, which in thier way of saying the old ones are cheeper and this way they can leech more $$$$$ out of you.

Since I already bought a DP-34 I cheched on Ecrap and managed to get 1 Quad Dishpro LNB for $65 Canadian. Now I justs need to get either a twin DishPro LNB and I will be able to get 110, 119, 148 on two recievers and just 110 & 119 on the other.

Once again thanks for the help.

Rayman

[JT]

The best one piece lnb you can have is a legacy quad. This lnb has an integrated SW44 switch and receives both 110 and 119 simotaneously. They should run about $50 on fleabay. It can be used with both Legacy and DP receivers. You can then add SW21's after this lnb if you want to add a third dish in a cascade. (one SW21 for each receiver to get the third bird) The descriptions at the links 00 posted are pretty good except they don't include the oldest type of lnb's. When Charlie first came out with a dish that would hit more than one bird at a time he basically just stuck two of his existing lnb's together, and made the pan 2 inches bigger. These lnb's that are stuck together required an external switch and came with two single lnbs or two dual lnb's stuck together; technically called a twin single and twin dual respectively. These are legacy lnb's.

Then Charlie went to the integrated lnb's described in the links above. The integrated Legacy lnb's are 500 Twin (integrated SW42 switch) and 500 Quad (integrated SW44 switch). The integrated Dish Pro lnb's are Pro Twin (integrated DP42 switch) and Pro Quad (integrated DP44 switch). The thing to remember when setting up cascade arrays is that a Pro receiver will work with either lnb type, but a Legacy receiver will only work with Legacy lnb's...unless you buy a Legacy to Pro adaptor for each Legacy receiver you want to run on a Pro lnb.

Are you confused yet? I think one of Charlies objectives was to confuse the issue so bad that if you weren't a professional installer you couldn't figure out which lnb you needed. Don't you? :p

[hick1]

I have found that when looking for switches for legacy lnbfs they will be SW's
And when using DishPro they will be DP's The easiest way to tell what lnbfs you have is to look at switch test. It will say there.If there is only one box showing 119 it is DishPro If it has two boxes showing 119 it is Legacy. Not sure how many irds you are trin to hook up but if it is just 2 you can use 21 switches. (like i said before DP for DishPro, Sw for Legacy)
So if you have a legacy 500 twin with switch built in you can add a sw21 switchfor the other sat.