4700 upgrade to 4900

[berner]

Don't know if this should be in the newbie section or not. How does a person go about upgrading a 4700 to a 4900. Will it stream automatically?

[Crazy1_79]

I believe the Memory of a 4700 is the same size as a 4900, not sure if restreaming on dish will force the upgrade or not but if you goto the tsop bank at www.dssftp.com you can find a 4900 flash, just be sure it matches the build configuration on the receiver you have, the build config will be in the system info screen on your 4700, for instance it will say software version 234XXXX the four x's are your build config, you must match the first three to your receivers software you have now. it might not be 234 either, that is just a example, don't know current software rev of the 4700

[berner]

When I bought my 4900, it was upgraded from a 4700 already. I've since swapped it over to Bev. I saved the dish bin file. I was asking because I've found some tsop bins with different build cfg's, some are for 4700's. If I give the link to people, I want to make sure that they'll have no problems using the old bins and letting them update to 4900's.

[smilingjack]

A 4700 is the original designation of the IRD with UHF, Dolby Digital, etc.
It was built by echostar for Canada (BEV)

When Dish wanted the same features for a DISH IRD they just changed the flash to DISH which made it a 4900. (upgraded)

To convert from Dish to Bev or Bev to Dish just erase the existing flash and put in the new one. (it will just say 4700 when you convert to BEV)(It will say 4900-upgraded when you convert to Dish)

The BEV flashes are the easiest to find since they made so many for BEV. There are a lot in the TSOP Bank.

The Dish flashes are harder to find since they came out later (were more expensive by then in the states) and not many people want to pay as much for a IRD to hack.

47--/4900's can be fussy and you need to buy a Dolby reciever with a optical input for surrond sound but it's great to watch movies on. I hook it to my big screen and boom, just like in a theater.

Enjoy, Sj

[berner]

Thanks SmilingJack. I just check my info and noticed it was a 4700C. Was just going to ask why. Now I know. The Bev bin saved as a 4700...
I used to run Dave through a DRD485RG. I wish the 47/4900's had component video too but DD5.1 is sure nice to listen to. I'm surprised at how many channels Bev broadcasts digital sound in. Way more than Dave used to.

[smilingjack]

Once you hook the IRD to a Dolby receiver you can get whatever they broadcast in some programs are in other formats too besides 5.1

If nothing else the Dolby is a better amp and the speakers are far superior to a TV sets amps & speakers, I run my other IRD's through a regular stereo / speaker sets too, instead of the TV sets. Big differance.

Sj

[berner]

I noticed some programs switch my NAD receiver into Dolby Digital 2.0, which just uses the front speakers. I get no sound out of the center, rears and sub. I can't select a Prologic II Mode when it sees a digital input. Is this just a quirk of NAD receivers? I guess I could pull the optical cable and run through the analogue RCA outputs but that'd be sort of a pain in the ass.

[smilingjack]

I noticed some programs switch my NAD receiver into Dolby Digital 2.0, which just uses the front speakers. I get no sound out of the center, rears and sub. I can't select a Prologic II Mode when it sees a digital input. Is this just a quirk of NAD receivers? I guess I could pull the optical cable and run through the analogue RCA outputs but that'd be sort of a pain in the ass.


The RCA will only give you stero

I am not sure if Dish transmits anything but mono, stero and dolby 5.1 since the IRD is only set up for stero & 5.1

your NAD 2.0 may not be compatable, look in some Pawn Shops, I found 5.1 receivers with optical inputs there for like $ 75 to $ 150

[berner]

My NAD 742 is DD5.1, DTS and has 6 channel analogue inputs for DVD-Audio and SACD. It kicks butt. :) DVD-Audio is just...well....fuckin' A. It cost a fair bit more than $75 and I love it.
The receiver just defaults to digital sound if it sees a digital input. Even if it's DD2.0, which is what some programs are broadcast in. The RCA inputs will allow the receiver to process the sound into 5 channels and sub. It sounds good but it's not DD5.1.
Guess I'll just have to learn to live with the DD2.0 if that's what the show is being broadcast in. I suppose it'll give my Klipsch center and rears and B+W sub a rest.
Thanks for clearing up my questions about the 47/4900's. If you can explain to me why the hell I didn't buy a 6000........ :eek13: but that's a whole other thread in a "What the Fuck did I do?" forum. Merry Christmas!!

[smilingjack]

Right, I got mine for the 4900 at a friends Pawn Shop it was $ 400 0r $500 new, He took it in for $50 and gave it to me for $100.
I use it for TV sound too it spreads mono around and does real good with stero. But 5.1 is the best, DVD's and some PPV's have 5.1

Most likley because you could not get a 6000 for $75 like a 4900.

Hey it's still better than those 2" speakers on the TV.

Merry Christmas, Sj