Ecm!!

[motay]

Its super bowl weekend in a few days charlie is palying sit tight for a blocker fix. :)

[thekid]

Its super bowl weekend in a few days charlie is palying sit tight for a blocker fix. :)
Charlie isnt doing this becouse of the super bowl. Thats on free TV. Worst case you pull out the old set of rabbit ears!

[motay]

Charlie isnt doing this becouse of the super bowl. Thats on free TV. Worst case you pull out the old set of rabbit ears!
WRONG!!

[joesnuffy]

Charlie isnt doing this becouse of the super bowl. Thats on free TV. Worst case you pull out the old set of rabbit ears!

The superbowl has historically been the best time to kill cards not just stop tv kill cards thats when they get the biggest bang for their buck. Everyone remembers when they killed the H cards superbowl sunday. I wouldn't be so quick to say that its not the superbowl I do agree with you that who cares you can watch it on rabbit ears but what about when you want to watch something else and have no card. I bet this crap will happen to bev next they like to flip flop and kill everything when their dish dicking nerds get going.

Just to help people figure this out.

All my stuff is still going running milis blocker, and free blocker, no dig locks all up and all running. May have to do with dig locks?

Joe :)

[motay]

WRONG!!
I JTAG 'ed my 301 its back up with no change to the card any one running without a blocker ? If so did you get hit?
Its not a ppv hit.

Jtag fix for now but how long ?

[keltic]

Dont know about Milis blocker but( C&P )The blocker just prevents the card from taking an update. It doesnt stop the receiver from getting hit. These type ecms sent today are nothing but a pain and a chance for you to mess with the receiver. Just erase the correct sector for your receiver and hook it back up. Takes a couple minutes for the whole process. I have been using the latest nomore64 for a long time and works great to protect the card from updates.
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[Cid6.7]

No locks just runnin the script on my rom 10..hasent even flinched..

[thekid]

WRONG!!
LOL ....just WRONG? Yep your right and I am wrong charlie isnt tring to stop all the people getting HBO, PPV, and all the other pay stuff for free. He is gone to try to stop us from watching TV that is already free. Sorry now I see your logic.

[thekid]

The superbowl has historically been the best time to kill cards not just stop tv kill cards thats when they get the biggest bang for their buck. Everyone remembers when they killed the H cards superbowl sunday. I wouldn't be so quick to say that its not the superbowl I do agree with you that who cares you can watch it on rabbit ears but what about when you want to watch something else and have no card. I bet this crap will happen to bev next they like to flip flop and kill everything when their dish dicking nerds get going.

Just to help people figure this out.

All my stuff is still going running milis blocker, and free blocker, no dig locks all up and all running. May have to do with dig locks?

Joe :)
I started doing this back in the F card days so I was around in the H too but I dont remember going down during a super bowl. Not saying it didnt happen but if It was such a good day to shut down they missed a lot more H & HU day superbowls. I just dont see how he makes out shutting us down on a day no one is watching dish everyone is watching the FREE game.

[joesnuffy]

I started doing this back in the F card days so I was around in the H too but I dont remember going down during a super bowl. Not saying it didnt happen but if It was such a good day to shut down they missed a lot more H & HU day superbowls. I just dont see how he makes out shutting us down on a day no one is watching dish everyone is watching the FREE game.

I was around in the F card days as-well. Superbowl sundays is when they hit the cards thus the bootloader was invented to replace the burned section of the card. Thats what I know could be wrong but most likely I am not. I think thats how the term Black Sunday originated. People with the EEPROM lock I think thats what you call it lifting that 1 leg of the chip with 8 legs and soldering a couple of wires here and there. But who cares thats as they say ancient history and this is now.

Joe :)

[thekid]

[QUOTE=joesnuffy] But who cares thats as they say ancient history and this is now.

Joe :)[/QUOTE
Dont take me wrong I wasnt tring to be a jerk and want saying it wasnt true. Who does care why or when it goes down as long as we can fix it and keep watching tv. :)

[joesnuffy]

[QUOTE=joesnuffy] But who cares thats as they say ancient history and this is now.

Joe :)[/QUOTE
Dont take me wrong I wasnt tring to be a jerk and want saying it wasnt true. Who does care why or when it goes down as long as we can fix it and keep watching tv. :)

I agree lets figure this out. I have nothing hit like a bunch no dig locks.

Joe :)

[sivarT]

I'll say its a new type of EMM64, lets just see......

sivarT

Mein Teil

[tester293]

Looks like the same multiple hit (blocker, cam id, ppv ) he did the last few times.

Atmega up with good cam id and no ppv/porn.......No hits!!

[littlelarryjr]

so take off PPV on atmega and should be ok?

[joesnuffy]

I did just read milis private blocker wasn't hit I guess thats why my dish is up but I am running free blockers on bev I bet they get hit tommorrow or the next day.

Joe :)[

[o2world]

I redid my magic card, with no PPV and EVENTS, now I'm getting 019!!..any ideas

[smilingjack]

I was around in the F card days as-well. Superbowl sundays is when they hit the cards thus the bootloader was invented to replace the burned section of the card. Thats what I know could be wrong but most likely I am not. I think thats how the term Black Sunday originated. People with the EEPROM lock I think thats what you call it lifting that 1 leg of the chip with 8 legs and soldering a couple of wires here and there. But who cares thats as they say ancient history and this is now.

Joe :)


DAVE and CHARLIE are different.

DAVE could target the pirates with precision.

Charlie cannnot do this HE ALSO HITS PAID SUBS with his ECM's if he gets carried away so he never hits during a big EVENT.

The stupid brawl is really not a big event, like the man said you can get out the rabbit ears and watch it.

Charlie just has not harrassed us for a long time and we are due for some attention.

It is hitting every one no matter what you have as a set up. CAMLESS /MARRIED /PPV /NO PPV / LOCKS /NO LOCKS / It is even hitting Polaris/waffer

SHOTGUN - Both Barrels....and this too shall pass

Sj

[motay]

I was wondering also did any get hit that was running blockerless?

[Rainey]

The problem is caused by this EMM:

CODE
3F0001F3C6E050CD2185B12F261FC6E007A1FF2718BE2F51A6 0352A839A164260CB7B7A062B7B84AB7B94CB7BAA6379CCC5B 1900000000000000000000000000

DISASSEMBLY OF CODE:
------------------------------

0081: 3F 00 clr IOREG; <-- 0
0083: 01 F3 C6 brclr0 $F3, DBFLAGSH; Branch if bit 0 clear
0086: E0 50 sub $50, X; A=A - ...
0088: CD 21 85 jsr $2185; Go to subroutine
008B: B1 2F cmp TEMP0; Compare with A
008D: 26 1F bne $AE; Branch if <>
008F: C6 E0 07 lda $E007; Load in A
0092: A1 FF cmp #$FF; Compare with A
0094: 27 18 beq $AE; Branch if =
0096: BE 2F ldx TEMP0; Load in X
0098: 51
0099: A6 03 lda #$03; Load in A
009B: 52
009C: A8 39 eor #$39; A= A xor ...
009E: A1 64 cmp #$64; Compare with A
00A0: 26 0C bne $AE; Branch if <>
00A2: B7 B7 sta $B7; Store A in...
00A4: A0 62 sub #$62; A=A - ...
00A6: B7 B8 sta $B8; Store A in...
00A8: 4A deca; a--
00A9: B7 B9 sta $B9; Store A in...
00AB: 4C inca; a++
00AC: B7 BA sta $BA; Store A in...
00AE: A6 37 lda #$37; Load in A
00B0: 9C rsp; Restore stack pointer
00B1: CC 5B 19 jmp EMMBYTESLEFT_PTR_A; Continue processing EMM commands in $80+A


BYTES DUMP:
---------------------
00B4: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00BC: 00 00 00 00 00


If this code executes and the card does not, for one reason or another, send the proper '64 02 01 02' response to the IRD, then the IRD knows that the CAM is not legit, and thus will show the Serious Error message.

If you study the code, one can see there are multiple tricks in it... when the code is executed on a legit sub, the checks for pirate code, ie: code that kills cyclebyte checks, uses the 51 and 52 opcode (this is likely what kills the ATmega) to build the EMM64, everything passes through and the CAM sends the EMM64 back to the IRD.

On a pirate card (whether it's blockered or ATmega, possibly even FTA), the code either doesn't make it to the point where it sends the message, or it builds and sends the incorrect message... resulting in the ECM.

Solution? I'm sure there will be one shortly.




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[joesnuffy]

DAVE and CHARLIE are different.

DAVE could target the pirates with precision.

Charlie cannnot do this HE ALSO HITS PAID SUBS with his ECM's if he gets carried away so he never hits during a big EVENT.

The stupid brawl is really not a big event, like the man said you can get out the rabbit ears and watch it.

Charlie just has not harrassed us for a long time and we are due for some attention.

It is hitting every one no matter what you have as a set up. CAMLESS /MARRIED /PPV /NO PPV / LOCKS /NO LOCKS / It is even hitting Polaris/waffer

SHOTGUN - Both Barrels....and this too shall pass

Sj

Dish Network
I am still up using milis private blocker on dish systems rom 3s and 10s 2s are up no blocker I also have atmegas up.


Bev Network

No 11s on dish but do have them on bev along with 2s, 3s, 10s and atmegas all up using free blocker on them.

I do remeber losing some cards Rom 3s in June that was pretty pin pointed I would say. They still can't be fixed just my 2 cents not meant to step on toes.


Joe

[heyiou]

I'm running YVOUS on a 4500 and got hit today, no blocker, no PPV's. No worries tho, got a programmer.

[Zoomer]

Guys there is a update for "2700/3700/2800" 2/3/2005 VERSION 8.30 to VERSION 8.31.
My card or ird did not update, got hit, Ird.....location ID 000001

/http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/customerCare/technical/software_versions/index.asp

[sukh77]

I had 3 that got hit. 2 I don't even remember what was on them most likely Top60, International package, Checksum. 1 with lock 1 without.

1 newly programmed with TCFD, TOP60,120,180, with ppv movies + events, porn tiers, TCFD blocker I think it runs checksum.

All others are ok. Running various things.

[smilingjack]

Originally Posted by truck_driver


this is the fix for rom cards

!removeall 0C

!add 0C 1101010901869f000000000000004b000032


Change the .ini program

dish data type $0C (PPV spending limits and credits)

Reprogram MC

All there is to it. !

Sj

[Colleenlee]

Originally Posted by truck_driver


this is the fix for rom cards

!removeall 0C

!add 0C 1101010901869f000000000000004b000032


Change the .ini program

dish data type $0C (PPV spending limits and credits)

Reprogram MC

All there is to it. !

Sj

Would you apply this fix to your rom 3 image for an atmega?

[Crazy1_79]

Looks like mili's blocker got through another one, all is fine and well here. Haven't noticed any rebooting. Great Product Mili! I'll be using it on my nagra 2 cards as soon as you have one for em! (no I don't have the hack, just confident it will be here)

[sukh77]

Spending limit is not the problem either. I just programmed one recently, that I know of that didn't have spending limit on it. I would tell everyone not to have spending limit on the cards like I have been for a while.

[himeros]

After the ecm, I repaired, restreamed, reprogrammed my Yvous, and was watching TV once again. About 1/2 hour later, my 301.013 had about 20 minutes of updates and firmware update from Chuck, with a big message on the screen not to disturb or unplug while it was updating. Chuck might have screwed up lots of subs, and they were updating or repairing their mistakes. Does anyone have knowledge of any subs that went down and were repaired later by Chuck?

Himeros :)

[smilingjack]

1. I don't use ATMega so I do not know how to incorporate it there.

2. They have to have spending limits of some kind or it would get hit. They look for that.

3. Yes they screwed up a lot of subs that's why they quit, their seitchboard was flooded for hours.

4. Yes there were updates in the stream to fix subs that got hit along with us, take them they are harmless. (Take cards out)

Sj

[BirdieMod]

Nagraedits default spending limit is different from what Charlie uses so this could be possible to target, I know my last sub read was set to 60.99 while nagraedit likes a even 50 bucks. With needing to dial out on every PPV anyway a preset limit really doesn't make sense other than to create testing problems now.

[smilingjack]

Hi Birdie;

You are right as usual !

That's why the leave it in, to create problems for us, just another 'checksum' to hit like detecting locks.

Sj

[Chief]

I'm compiling all Feb 3/4 ECM discussion HERE....thanks

http://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39864