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sumthing
02-21-2005, 12:40 AM
I screwed up and erased both flashes. I read and follow the resurrection guide using Wall and restoring 60000 bytes to get the flashing green light. First I got a flash of the green light as soon as I plug the receiver in, but the flash is less than 1 second, is that normal? second, when I launch Jkey, it doesn't recognize boxkey or IRD. And I can't get into flash programming, no erase or program option... Anyone got this problem before? I repeated the Wall steps countless times already and still no go in Jkey.

smilingjack
02-21-2005, 12:49 AM
Go back and read the instructions to wall again.

Actually you can't use J-Keys until the entire 223 is back in. Do the whole thing with wall.

The first 60000 is just the fast load or boot sector, all it does is let you load the flash faster than 45 minutes. (2 1/2 min)

You still have to flash the rest of the flash.

Start with the first 60000.

Then load the entire bin 2 or (223) that is where the IRD & Box keys are.

Then load bin 1 or (222)

Then make your EPROM a virgin and load that.

Then you can plug the IRD in.

If you have loaded a current P-XXX set of bins you can put the card in and watch TV.

If your bins are old, let it re-stream without a card until it updates first.

Sj

skinerd
02-21-2005, 01:19 AM
There are times I can't make Wall work and times I can't make jkeys work, and times where writing the first 60000 bytes with Wall as described in the resurrection guide works fine.
Normally tho, I can get them loaded with jkeys alone.

smilingjack
02-21-2005, 01:36 AM
J-Keys has to be able to figure out what kind of IRD/chip it is working with.
If you erase both flashes on a 301.10 you have erased all the identification on the chip.

J-Keys does not know what you are J-Tagging !

The first 60000 is the boot sector, it only gives a vague idea of the chip type and lets wall2 load the .bin(s) faster. Not what kind of IRD it is. 223 does that.

If you use wall2 it does not give a damn what kind of chip it is working with.
It programs it.

You can go full bore with 223 if you want to wait 45 minutes or more.

The best way is;

1. Use wall2 to install the first 60000.
This lets you load the rest of the flash fast.

2. Use wall2 to load .bin 2 (223) 2.5 minutes.

3. Use wall2 to load .bin 1 (222) 2.5 min.

4. Use J-Keys 2.9.11..026 to load a virgin EPROM.

Watch TV

Works for my 8 - 301.10's

Sj

beer bubbler
02-21-2005, 02:24 AM
well the hammer is raised. i have spent 2 days trying , to no avail. i see you have 301-10's. i'll give you the details. i have spent 2 days reading posts and files etc. etc. with absolutely no results . a few days ago i corrected an ecm'd 2700 with no problem. now i have the 301-10 that was ecm'd . i jtagged the receiver , and got all the ird's & box key info. i backed up the tsop. i erased sa3 , 3 times as per instruction , in flash 1 only. that's all i did . i then went and pugged the unit in , to restream , but it would only power up for the 3 or 5 seconds we all know about. then , nothing. the satellite cable was never connected . i tried to reprogram the saved tsop file , but to no avail. i tried wall2 , but i keep getting referred to flash 2 , which was not touched. all the reading i do makes so many assumptions , it always leaves a gap . [ to me , of course ] i have read so much , i am at the overload stage. any help would be appreciated . now i am going to get a good stiff drink and call it a bad weekend! thanks in advance , for any help.

smilingjack
02-21-2005, 02:37 AM
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

If you J-tagged AFTER THE ECM you have SHIT for a back up. Throw them away.

Go to the public download file get my personal 301.10 .bins

# 26 # 27 I am watching TV on them now.

Edit the IRD & Box Key numbers with flashedit to fit your IRD and

Put in 223 then put in 222 then make your EPROM a virgin with flashedit and put it in your IRD too.

Ready to go, watch TV no restreaming.

Sj

sumthing
02-21-2005, 03:12 AM
Sj,
I did what you wrote to the T and the receiver is still not powering up. It does give a quick green light flash (less than 1 second) and nothing after that.

The first 60000 is just the fast load or boot sector, all it does is let you load the flash faster than 45 minutes. (2 1/2 min)

You still have to flash the rest of the flash.

Start with the first 60000.

Then load the entire bin 2 or (223) that is where the IRD & Box keys are.

Then load bin 1 or (222)

Then make your EPROM a virgin and load that.

Then you can plug the IRD in.

Sj
All this without unplugging or restart of Wall, is this correct?
Also, is it normal that the Erase Flash takes less than 1 second?

smilingjack
02-21-2005, 03:34 AM
You should erase at least 3 times for any thing you do.

Did you remember to change the IRD # and Box Key numbers to match your IRD's numbers with flash edit before you used the .bins, they are generic when you download them from the site. ?

Sj

sumthing
02-21-2005, 03:44 AM
You should erase at least 3 times for any thing you do.

Did you remember to change the IRD # and Box Key numbers to match your IRD's numbers with flash edit before you used the .bins, they are generic when you download them from the site. ?

Sj
Right now, I don't really care about the information. I just want Jkey to be able to read the info. and let me into Flash programming. I would love to see Jkey throw the boxkey 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88, but it showing different info. every time I hit Detect.

smilingjack
02-21-2005, 03:47 AM
Delete all, start over with Wall2 as I described in the above post.

Maybe I should have said erase all (both bins), 3 times then start over from scratch.

Make sure you have changed the files from the public download to your numbers.

skinerd
02-21-2005, 06:06 AM
I think if you are getting the quick flash, that you at least have the boot sector loaded and should be able to flash.

I just wish that there was more info on 301.013s with dual chips. Fucking DCU peak error is driving me crazy. Atleast I can still get the Jtag Info....not all hope is lost for me yet.:)Have you tried the R79 ground?? Or pad 1 of the jtag port on bottom??

sumthing
02-21-2005, 10:59 PM
Delete all, start over with Wall2 as I described in the above post.

Maybe I should have said erase all (both bins), 3 times then start over from scratch.

Make sure you have changed the files from the public download to your numbers.

Well, after 1 day, 2 laptops and 1 desktop... I finally got the green light to come on. I don't know why, but I had to use my desktop to load the 60000 bytes and Jkey on one of the laptop to get into flash programming. Now I'm waiting for the flashing green light to go solid. If not, I'll erase Flash 1 and let it update itself.

beer bubbler
02-22-2005, 02:36 AM
I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

If you J-tagged AFTER THE ECM you have SHIT for a back up. Throw them away.

Go to the public download file get my personal 301.10 .bins

# 26 # 27 I am watching TV on them now.

Edit the IRD & Box Key numbers with flashedit to fit your IRD and

Put in 223 then put in 222 then make your EPROM a virgin with flashedit and put it in your IRD too.

Ready to go, watch TV no restreaming.

Sj how do you make your eeprom a virgin ? kinda sounds simple , but i have never done it. so far after 3 days of trying , all i have succeeded in doing is going backwards. i have now lost all power , and the ird and box keys are gone. i guess i now got to start all over , but massive frustration has set in. i will go to wall , and try to start from scratch ...again !
i know where to get the 2 flash files , but unsure how to do the eeprom etc. i know it may seem easy to you , but try to remember your first attempt. kinda wish i had just bought a 2700 and called it a day. this all started because i erased sa3 on flash 1 . then it went downhill. admittedly , i am getting discouraged. thanks for looking.

smilingjack
02-22-2005, 02:46 AM
Use flash edit,

All you have to do is open flash edit, select the EPROM open it then save it.

Thats all flash edit does to EPROM's, makes them virgins.

Then load the .bins you downloaded of mine, you have to change the IRD # and Box Keys from (blank) to your numbers.
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THEN
Open wall delete 223 three times.

Start by loading the first 60000 of 223.

That's the boot sector it will let you load the rest fast instead of slow, that's all it does.

Then load the entire bin 2 or (223) that is where the IRD & Box keys are.

Then delete 222 three times

Then load bin 1 or (222)

Then load your virgin EPROM

Then you can plug the IRD in.

Put your card in.

Do a switch check.

watch TV.

MY bins are current I am still using the same bins I uploaded

Sj

beer bubbler
02-23-2005, 06:58 PM
Use flash edit,

All you have to do is open flash edit, select the EPROM open it then save it.

Thats all flash edit does to EPROM's, makes them virgins.

Then load the .bins you downloaded of mine, you have to change the IRD # and Box Keys from (blank) to your numbers.
--------------------------------------------------------------

THEN
Open wall delete 223 three times.

Start by loading the first 60000 of 223.

That's the boot sector it will let you load the rest fast instead of slow, that's all it does.

Then load the entire bin 2 or (223) that is where the IRD & Box keys are.

Then delete 222 three times

Then load bin 1 or (222)

Then load your virgin EPROM

Then you can plug the IRD in.

Put your card in.

Do a switch check.

watch TV.

MY bins are current I am still using the same bins I uploaded

Sj well , thanks to your help , i have a green light again. i did this at my shop , with no sat. access. now , when i read the ird with j-keys , i get 1 number. with wall , i get another number. where do i change the ird #'s ? the box keys do read the same on both programs. in anticipation of the next step , eeprom ? read , then load ? is this correct ? thanks for your help. i got home , and the only thing [ i hope ] that's left , is to know how and where to change the ird and boxkey info. you have been great help , and patient too !! usually by now , i usually blow the apparatus into the lake ! ]

smilingjack
02-24-2005, 12:18 AM
You make the EPROM a Virgin with flashedit, open it & save it...Thats all you do.

If you are getting two (2) different numbers you have only changed one (1) of the bin files (1) = 222 or (2) = 223 and you will have to change one of them to the number you want to use. You change the IRD & Box Key numbers with flashedit,

On the 301.10 there are two(2).bin's and it will do both at once.
Load your .bin(s) and overwrite the existing numbers with the ones you need.
check the ecm & crc boxes and save as a personal dump

Flash .bin 2 (223) is the one the IRD reads, always erase and program it first if you are changing numbers. DO NOT STOP BETWEEN ERASE & PROGRAM or it may lose the first 60000 and freeze again.

Then do Flash 1 (222), Then do EPROM program with virgin.

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 12:29 AM
You make the EPROM a Virgin with flashedit, open it & save it...Thats all you do.

If you are getting two (2) different numbers you have only changed one (1) of the bin files (1) = 222 or (2) = 223 and you will have to change one of them to the number you want to use. You change the IRD & Box Key numbers with flashedit,

On the 301.10 there are two(2).bin's and it will do both at once.
Load your .bin(s) and overwrite the existing numbers with the ones you need.
check the ecm & crc boxes and save as a personal dump

Flash .bin 2 (223) is the one the IRD reads, always erase and program it first if you are changing numbers. DO NOT STOP BETWEEN ERASE & PROGRAM or it may lose the first 60000 and freeze again.

Then do Flash 1 (222), Then do EPROM program with virgin. i missed seeing you were online. i did try to program an m2 card , with the provided ird and keys as they were , but no luck yet. i am going to bring the receiver back in and check all. thanks.

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 12:56 AM
sorry , but i still can't see where/how to change the ird and box keys , the box keys read 11 22 etc. well , at least the green light is on.

smilingjack
02-24-2005, 01:05 AM
sorry , but i still can't see where/how to change the ird and box keys , the box keys read 11 22 etc. well , at least the green light is on.


Have the files 222/223/eprom handy that you want to change, like in a file that says change me.

Open flashedit, click on the 3 little dots top right hand corner and find the files.
Click on the one that says 1bin (or 222) (this loads both files)
click on advanced
click on open
erase the IRD # 2 at a time and put yours in their place EXACTLY THE SAME WAY
erase the boxkey # 2 at a time and put yours in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY
click the box that says ECM fix
click on the box that says fix CRC
if the chacksum does not turn red......
click on save as ...personal dump
it will write BOTH the files with the new numbers
CLOSE FLASHEDIT
open flaskedit again click the dots and load EPROM
click open
click save as
it will save it as a virgin

Then put then in the ird 2 (erase 3 times then program)
Then 1 (erase 3 times then program)
then load the EPROM

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 01:19 AM
Have the files 222/223/eprom handy that you want to change, like in a file that says change me.

Open flashedit, click on the 3 little dots top right hand corner and find the files.
Click on the one that says 1bin (or 222) (this loads both files)
click on advanced
click on open
erase the IRD # 2 at a time and put yours in their place EXACTLY THE SAME WAY
erase the boxkey # 2 at a time and put yours in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY
click the box that says ECM fix
click on the box that says fix CRC
if the chacksum does not turn red......
click on save as ...personal dump
it will write BOTH the files with the new numbers
CLOSE FLASHEDIT
open flaskedit again click the dots and load EPROM
click open
click save as
it will save it as a virgin

Then put then in the ird 2 (erase 3 times then program)
Then 1 (erase 3 times then program)
then load the EPROM thanks for the details. [ i needed them ] what i was tring to do was edit the numbers in jkeys in the "flash" programming. not gonna work like that. after i figure out unzip , i think i will be somewhere. i am going to give it one more shot before i pay attention to the wife. let you know how it comes out tomorrow. i do thank you for your help muchly.

smilingjack
02-24-2005, 01:24 AM
Just download one or the zip or RAR programs let it install.
After that when you ger a zip or RAR program put it in a empty folder, right click on it and tell it to unzip 'here' it does the rest

Sj

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 01:46 AM
Just download one or the zip or RAR programs let it install.
After that when you ger a zip or RAR program put it in a empty folder, right click on it and tell it to unzip 'here' it does the rest

Sjgreat so far ! i got to close flashedit....then reopened it [ all info is correct , box keys etc. ] click the dots ...all o.k. now open eeprom ...but , i can't see where...sorry ...that should be load eeprom ??? unsure exactly how.

smilingjack
02-24-2005, 01:49 AM
Just re-open flashedit
click the dots and load EPROM
click open
click save as
it will save it as a virgin

That's all you have to do is open and save, there is nothing else to do with a eprom except make it a virgin

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 01:54 AM
Just re-open flashedit
click the dots and load EPROM
click open
click save as
it will save it as a virgin

That's all you have to do is open and save, there is nothing else to do with a eprom except make it a virgin
stupid me !!! back in a jiffy.

beer bubbler
02-24-2005, 02:04 AM
stupid me !!! back in a jiffy. now for the last 3 lines of your FINE instruction. i don't want to screw it up now...........not sure ....am i still in flash edit ?? before i put another dunce cap on , i think i got the answer from one you gave on the 21st. thanks much. final results will be forthcoming.

beer bubbler
02-26-2005, 02:11 AM
the great info i got here , restored my receiver. if i can do it .........well , you know , anyone can. these instructions were great.

smilingjack
02-26-2005, 03:03 AM
Glad to hear it, Make backups this time, Just in case.

Sj

HBSIG
03-25-2005, 10:13 PM
Same problem here. I can't open WALL. When I open it it says "Warning. The ID code is incorrect" What do I do to get into WALL?

indal_98
03-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Same problem here. I can't open WALL. When I open it it says "Warning. The ID code is incorrect" What do I do to get into WALL?

Either JTAG problem or TSOP is not blank or corrupted....

See the Search button on the right hand side ? type in "warning code is incorrect" ...you'll find the answers....

G'L

smilingjack
03-25-2005, 10:23 PM
Sometimes wall will do that the first time you run it.
It has to write a program to the computer so it can use it.
Re-boot the computer and try it again it should work after it has inserted the .dll it needs in the system file.

Worked for me, your spy, bot or registy protect may ask about installling it, just click yes install change.

Sj

seanvan
03-26-2005, 04:20 AM
hi..
i have a 301-010 I try Quick ECM Fix on my receiver, but JKEY BY D2 would not allow me to flash.

smilingjack
03-26-2005, 04:49 AM
Use J-Key 2.9.11.026 on the 301.10
It is in the files section, I use it all the time on mine