dish 4900 no signal on check switch

[moonlight2001]

Here's a question for anyone, My reciever a dish 4900 with the p217 firmware was working great till this morning. Turned it on and nothing. Did a check switch and no signal what so ever. Tried several times and no go. Anyone got a clue what could have happened between last night and this morning. I checked the reciever infor and the reciever had not been hit. any guesses. thanks

[smilingjack]

You don't have a locatin ID of 00001
You don't have a card # S0000000 ?
but you get info ?

[smilingjack]

Curent firmware is P-218 changed March 1, 2005
Try letting it update Charlie is doing some strange stuff with the firmware and nags these days.
Check the IRD cable output for voltage around 12 volts.

[smilingjack]

What kind of card are you using.

It sounds like the TSOP is corrupt, this will not give you a bad location ID but you will not get any signal showing.
Sometimes it will shut off and not come on and sometimes it will stay on and not turn off with a corrupty TSOP.

You may have to put your backup TSOP in it.

Sj

[mopar611]

Did you try reaiming your dish? Who knows.... Maybe something as simple as your cable came loose or your splitter broke?????

You talking to yourself SJ???? LOL

Mopar

[smilingjack]

HAVE TO the place is empty nobody to talk to, answer a question and they never come back. I don't know if they got it working or went to bed.

Hey Mopar don't forget about DST starting tomorrow. Don't want to be late for church.

Sj

[moonlight2001]

Oh, one more thing I am using a rom 3 with the latest blocker. And when I do the check switch it takes about 5 to 7 minutes to complete the check switch.

[moonlight2001]

thanks for the reply SJ, I have changed the firmware to p218 and have changed locations for the signal as well. I have a subbed unit as well and it has no problem with the signal. After reflashing the tsop, I still have the same problem. I have two 4900 irds and both having the same problem. reflashed both of them and still nada. Can I do a check switch without have a card in the ird?

[smilingjack]

Well it usually takes a long time on the 4900 to do the switch check, a lot onger than my 2800 or 301.10 but not quite that long.

I think you got hit with something that corrupted the TSOP. I had that happen and did not have a good back-up it was corrupted I looked around for a couple of months before I found one that would work.

Do you have a back up ? I have mine but it is also at P-217, I have not got around to letting it update yet.

Sj

[moonlight2001]

I just looked at the system info again and I noticed that the location id is 1 on both recievers. does that mean anything. what is the locations id?

[smilingjack]

I just looked at the system info again and I noticed that the location id is 1 on both recievers. does that mean anything. what is the locations id?


Location Id of 00001 means you have been ECM'ed.

Erase sector SA30 three times and restream.

Sj

[smilingjack]

Location ID is a number that is generated based on your cam and ird numbers, plus the current time. It is used by charlie to check on people with a lot of irds on one account, and with them not connected to the phone line. If they are on the phone line, they dial out now and then, and dish makes sure they come from the same phone number, since you're not allowed to "share" in multiple houses. If coming from different numbers, account gets deactivated.

If the irds arent connected to the phone line, then dish does a periodic audit, by calling you up and asking for the location ids from all your irds (that are supposed to be in your house). If you cant give them all of the location ids, off goes your service.

Do a search for "location id" in the dishnet files section, its called "lidcalc" and it generates your location id.

The number has nothing to do with a physical location, just a number that is generated so they can catch people that share one subbed account in multiple physical locations. Normally they only do the audit on people with 4+ ird's subbed to their account.

[smilingjack]

thanks for the reply SJ, I have changed the firmware to p218 and have changed locations for the signal as well. I have a subbed unit as well and it has no problem with the signal. After reflashing the tsop, I still have the same problem. I have two 4900 irds and both having the same problem. reflashed both of them and still nada. Can I do a check switch without have a card in the ird?

You need a better blocker or fewer tiers on your card, the 4900 is nice but it has a small memory chip and cannot handle many channels. The subbed unit is not subject to ECM. Sounds like you either got hit with the new flash right away OR IT IS also ecm'ed. do the ECM fix erase SA30 and put it in again.

NO you can't get anything without a card in it.

What I would do is J-Tag the subbed IRD and use the same IRC # and BOX KEY on all of them, that way you can use any card in any IRD.

I have all of mine that way. 2800, 4900, 301.10 same same numbers.

Sj

[moonlight2001]

thanks sj, will do just as you said. And I am using the same ird number and so on for both my recievers for that purpose. I have one card loaded and the other lot so much. Thanks bro, will let you know a little later what happens. thanks for the help.

[smilingjack]

ok good night, time for bed for me