convert cam id

[lips905]

sup everyone .I use to have a proggy that was supposed to convert the cam id in virgin rom 101.I can't find it anymore.Does anyone know what i'm talking about??
If it worked we could get all of our friends together clone 2700 convert the cam id and box keys to a legit not activated card call dish or bev and subscribe. If everyone is hooked up to the sat feed when the activation was called in everyone could share.Call me crazy but im sure this would work just like a clone.So what no ppv but at least we could get all our friends to pitch in and a $140 activation would cos pennies a month

[lips905]

shit no replies?

[skinerd]

That sounds like an idea....but I have no clue as to a program that would change the camID on a 101....

[blondie]

If we could read and write to the card successfully this discusion would be mute.

[lips905]

it has nothing to do with reading or writing the card.Skinerd remember bd buster?At the time you could actually write public keys ird and box keys to a rom 10.Now I had a proggy in spanish that was suppose to write the cam id but i could be wrongI'm just trying to find out if someone else has it.

It would be good if we could read the card sucessfully but for the time beeing its not going to happen.Blondie think about it if only you could change the cam id to whatever you would like you your neighbour your friends could share until something comes out to fully read and write the card.

[HILLBILLY]

hey lips, good luck with that idea. if u need a "friend" to split the cost, i'm in!
hillbilly

[blondie]

sounds good to me. let us know if this works
I have heard of people writing the tiers but apparently the card fixes the problem later on.

[sukh77]

lips is it borgcube. I don't think it is. I think I used to have it too until my pc crashed.

[lips905]

I know for a fact that it would work all i need is that proggy.I have been going crazy looking for it.but i can't find it

[sukh77]

U think it was something u got from zackyfiles.com. The program I'm talking about came from there. But now they don't have anything plastic related.

[BirdieMod]

The Cam id along with the recievers ird and boxkey numbers would all need to match.
I saw the program somewhere, I'll look some more.

[HITEKREDNK]

Anyone have this program, this is good news. Please share with us.
HITEKREDNK

[lips905]

birdie all virgin cards don't come with box keys just cam id.The proggy was from zackyfiles.So when you get the main card activated and all of the ird's cloned to the main box keys all of the cards will get activated at the same time.What we need to make sure is that all ird's are the same we can't mix.(ex:2700 or 3100).All ird's have to be conected to sat feed upon activation.That's how i used to do my clones.You see when all box keys match and ird's if at any time one chooses to add a package all of the receivers will take the hit therefore everyone will get that extra package.

[lips905]

Birdie can you make this thread a sticky??Maybe more people will look at it and help out

[sirredz]

This sounds like a great idea. Is there not a ZKT check or other routine programmed inside the card to verify it's legitimate.

I assume there is some sort of internal checking routine...

:SrZ:

[sukh77]

Lips- was it called tombraider.

[lips905]

I don't remember sukh but maybe can you upload some proggys.That's what happens when i don't make a back up of files. i had problems with my computer and everything went

[sukh77]

Lips I'm still trying to remeber the name of it. I know it came from Zackyfiles. Like you I lost some programs also. Currupted my PC while back.

[lips905]

k so far this is the most advanced n2 proggy i came across take a look

[WAG]

liips was it mymadtv

[sukh77]

damit shit's in spanish. Seems to give good date for cam.

Here something similar in english. But it will not let you change anything.
If these programs can figure out where the camid, IRD# comes from there is got to be a way to change the numbers there.

[lips905]

K guys post whatever programs you have until we find the right one(lol) we'll get this going with everyone helping.Most of the proggys out there are only able to read certain aspects of the card like cam, ird,tiers,etc.now the proggy i'm talking about is winxplorer based.we need to write a diff cam to a virgin 101 0r 102

[JOE SNUFFY]

I think you got the first real idea yet. Good luck and I and everyone else will be watching.

Joe :)

[lips905]

mili feel free to jump in at any time and give us your input :)

[Crazy1_79]

If virgin cards only contain the cam id and not the box keys and there is a program to change the cam id out there, it should work. you may have to have the etire tsop cloned not just change the boxkeys in my eperience which is brief there is something else in the tsops that make the conenction with the card besides boxkeys and ird nuber. but it very well may work.

[lips905]

yes crazy you got it right if the ird is the same build probably only the box keys need to be cloned but to be on the safe side we should clone the whole thing

[norton]

Now do I get this right? A magic card can be used with rom10x cards as longs as its married sub? If this is right, and this program exists, wouldnt we have everything necessary to get N2 channels? This could be the easiest hack to hold us over until something better ever comes forward.

Magic features:
-ROM10X Married-Sub Blocker support.

[pognog]

Try this link, i found some proggy called T-Rex Nagra2 Tool and Nagra 2 Emulator Analyser, but dunno what to do with it...

http://dvb.lv/index.php?showfilesfordate=2005-4-7

[hhhjr]

You dont think even if you could change the cam id on the cam that it would be activated via sub? Common guys I am not sure but the cams most likely have parity keys in it, That is how the cam is addressed I belive. The cam id is just what it is cam id. Now think about it You go to your local electronics chain and pull out a cam, record the id and you will get a free sub? I dont think so, but on another hand post any utilites you can find.

[sukh77]

HHHjr - We are not just talking about camid you would need to change IRD# and boxkeys on the card. Then you would need to match the whole tsop of a subbed IRD. Not just changing the IRD# and Boxkeys.

[lips905]

hhhjr have you ever cloned??Well i have for the last 5 or 6 years.Trust me this would work.When you clone everything works so we need to clone the cam id from one card to another parity keys are all the same.And no you can't go to your local electronics store and get a cam.The original cam needs to be activated.Lets say you have a nice virgin 101 you clone 4 or 5 cards with your cam id and also clone all receivers.When you call charlie for activation all of them will activate at the same time.Read between the lines.I'm all the way in canada how do you think i get all my friends and some other people watching tv??When i have everything activated.Everyone pays get it??

[lips905]

By the way nice link pognog :) :)

[mikevil]

thought that is problem right now with new 101 102 cards is that we cant get into them to change anything cam id and such to make colones?

[hhhjr]

Well you are right but as we cannot get into the cam yet, and maybe never, that is my point. I read about trying to change the cam ID so the cam id is the same as the cam you are going to sub, I didnt read about cloning and if you have a proggie to read and write to a rom 10X you should post it. Dont take this the wrong way, In my original reply I was under the impression that ppl thought you only had change the cam id

[mikevil]

what iam saying is if there was a poggy toread and write these cards we wouldnt be in this situation

[lips905]

read the whole thread mikevil

[mikevil]

hey i did and all iam saying is if that proggy you were looking for worked iam sure you would see a lot more of it,it would be nice though if true

[lips905]

Well you are right but as we cannot get into the cam yet, and maybe never, that is my point. I read about trying to change the cam ID so the cam id is the same as the cam you are going to sub, I didnt read about cloning and if you have a proggie to read and write to a rom 10X you should post it. Dont take this the wrong way, In my original reply I was under the impression that ppl thought you only had change the cam id


That's no problem i just want people to read the whole thread before they post and i need everyones help on this.more people looking the better the chances are at geting this going.

[lips905]

well i did have such proggy before my computer crashed and some people here already came across it all we are doing is trying to locate it.all it does is convert cam id.Don't know if you noticed but a lot of proggys are able to get into the card like read tiers cam id,ird# date card was activated

[mikevil]

thanks man

[mikevil]

here you go hex caculator now you can covert

[lips905]

y do we have such idiots Man .If i wanted to laugh i would have gone to the circus.Fuckin clown

[JOE SNUFFY]

I noticed when the p3s went down that people get mad as hell and say things that don't make sense to one another. I know your idea will work and thats what is important. The trick to yours is your letting dish program the card all your doing is changing the cam. From the old French saying developed during WWII "Don't let the sons a bitches get you down".


Joe :)

[tony613]

dude ,
this idea of yours will work .fuck those who dont listen .

[mikevil]

hey i hope we can find this program i know it will work also, i looked for a while for it no luck yet, but i have the program called card master it has some good utilitys aswell not sure if this is what your looking for but it says it supports rom 101 and it has a cam cloning thing init for 101 if you need more info let me know

[mikevil]

if you have this program or know where its at go in to it and look in the data space window and you can see that you can pair cards also lota of other good stuff in this program

[tony613]

can you please point to the programm
thanks

[lips905]

hey mikevil can you post the link or upload proggy??

[mikevil]

hey i have never uploaded before but give me some simple directions and i will

[HuSatellite]

First, Zip the file....
Then reply to this thread, Add attachment, Pick the zipped folder on your p.c.

Thats it!

[qwerty5]

this experiment works, i played with cam ids and box keys before on yellow no problem, the card can be married to any receiver, may not need a virgin card, this info can be changed on a locked card, came across many progies that allow changing cam id and/or boxkey many of you may have not even tried while you have the progies, it can be done in a script too, if u r activating a subscription it wont make a difference which firmware level, build or model receiver, in very rare occasions Charlie remembers how these receivers are manufactured and ecms based on model receiver or build, carefull with card Serial should match card type this is a regular ecm target, an ideal situation is same build receiver and card but in extremly rare occasions the recievr build was involved in marking a card or an ECM

[sukh77]

Here is a xvb file haven't tried yet says reads N2 stuff. http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=ZjA4NzNhOTFiNIJ/Ta/hcL58OokDvLu8l84RDmvKZJMJrjHv
Here is the card master program http://www.dssftp.com/filedownload/downloads.php?file=MmU4YzllYzBhOeWUMGp/2/N0Qu73QpsC4a3X6CmZ3jCTEaZu/Q==

[mikevil]

if anybody successfully gets this working post results and what used iam playing with rom102 and card master no luck yet

[qwerty5]

this thread mixed me up, ird information is what we can change sending commands to card but cam serial doesnt, cam serial change is backdoor only, glitching may not do to all 3 cam locations, all nagra cards share same command for card serial reading and i expect almost same cam code routines on all roms nagra1 and nagra2 since they respond to same commands, this applies for both nagra1 and nagra2, its was possible to marry nagra1 cards by changing receiver boxkeys on cam even on locked cams, i used many tools to change cam but if u notice all these proggies that allowed that have an entry for the backdoor these tools use backdoor, to distinguish nagra2 from nagra1 cards nagra1 is currently accesible via backdoor, and we havent managed writing to nagra2 using backdoor, not to consider this project currently dead, card activation using stream commands is possible but not clonning using same cam serials with our current knowledge of Nagra2

[quaff]

I don't know if this is a good idea or not, couldn't we just use an AVR to spoof the CAM ID. I mean we do that now, so why can't we just program the AVR to pass everything through to the cam, and give the IRD the Cloned CAM ID. Just a thought.

[d_testing]

Remember the No 745 boards for direct. maybe a similar divice for echostar could generate the cam ID that coresponds to the cloned IRD and box keys.

[Alabamaone]

lips i'm a newbie but am interested in helping and if you remember any specifics about file name my time on the internet could be well spent. If that is all you have then i'll make do and look anyway