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acvegas
04-15-2005, 05:01 AM
:) As I read various post through out this forum……I keep running across questions regarding …..“Is my FTA Satellite Receiver ready or compatible for Nagra Two". Well read on……

If you open up to view the insides of an actual true Dish Network Satellite Receiver….the latest model. You will find that Dish Network Satellite Receivers use the same identical Microprocessor Chip that most of the FTA Satellite Receivers use…..the Sti5518 – it’s the brain (so-to-speak). So that tells us something. If Dish Network latest/newest Satellite Receivers are using the same identical Microprocessor that most of the Old and New Model FTA Receivers use, having the same part number (Sti5518) – then most (if not all) models of FTA Satellite Receivers are ready for “Nagra Two” – “Nagra Three” – “Nagra Four”, etc., etc., etc. Now it’s just a matter of creating the proper Nagra Two software to install in the FTA Satellite Receivers. Any electronic technician or computer engineer will tell you I am correct….at least “in theory”.

Dish Network’s Satellite Access Card is nothing more than computer software......it’s the software on Dish Network Satellite Access Card which carries Nagra Two data – not the actual receiver. Hence: if we could apply this same identical "Software" to our FTA Microchip, yes we would have "Nagra Two" (so-to-speak) in theory.

The software on Dish Network Card….tells the Microprocessor Chip (Sti5518) what NEW directions to follow. And I repeat…… it is not the actual Dish Network Receiver that is Nagra Two Ready, but the software on the Access Cards. Remember, Dish Network has done a Satellite Card Access Swap/Change, not a Satellite Receiver Swap/Change. And when designing NEW Access Satellite Cards for Dish Network (or Direct TV) – these Computer Encryption Technician Designers – have to remember and keep in mind, that they are limited in design. Meaning that they can only make the NEW Satellite Access Card only do so much, no matter how much technology is out their and currently available. Due to the fact that Dish Network (and Direct TV) customers still have MANY older (nearly obsolete) Satellite Receivers out their. These older Receivers can barely handle the NEW Nagra Two Data. And just because of this reason is Dish Network and Direct TV’s major draw-back.

If Dish Network and Direct TV would make an actual Satellite Receiver swap and release a totally NEW Satellite Receiver's with the latest in Digital Satellite Technology – then ALL of us that are currently using FTA Satellite Receiver’s to view Dish Network Broadcasting would be totally screwed. And YES – we would need an entirely NEW FTA Receiver built with similar electronics and technology as a Dish Network Receiver. Dish Network or Direct TV will not do that, because it is not economical and would cost them two much money to replace each Satellite Receiver and to much time involved, plus at the same time – they may loose some customers due to this Satellite Receiver swap-out and exchange. So as for not upgrading Satellite Receivers – is one of Dish Network and Direct TV’s main drawbacks, and you can ask any satellite technician about that too of what I am saying.

littlelarryjr
04-15-2005, 05:18 AM
Dish Network or Direct TV will not do that, because it is not economical and would cost them two much money to replace each Satellite Receiver and to much time involved.


Are you kidding? And you think a card swap is fucking cheap? Think about how many tens of millions these new cards cost? I bet the technology in the cards cost more to develop than creating a new IRD. Software is where its at, and software licences are the most costly part of any system. Obviously what we can see we can hack, or attemp to, but a card, we cant see whats going on inside it, so we cant map it. It's not a cheaper solution, it's a smarter one

knarf
04-15-2005, 05:58 AM
In theory I think we are SOL

atigrado
04-15-2005, 11:53 AM
Even when some people are triying to give us a negative hope about the future of FTA TV, I try to keep my hope in the good logic of acvegas.

Is the only way to don't break the legs of the guy who sold me the system 2 months ago.

500$ doesn't fall from the sky...


So, I hope that some people like acvegas will keep positive and soon somebody will find the way to crack the freaking Nagra2.

Other wise it won't be fare for so many people...

vmod32
04-15-2005, 04:26 PM
well, I would go break his legs now because a FTA receivers is only worth about $60-200 tops, so you got ripped off, and he promised nagra 2, so you got lied to on top of it. None are going to work with Nargra 2, for mainly the same reasons you never ever saw DTV on FTA. Fair? this hobby was never fair. Just the way it goes.

smilingjack
04-15-2005, 08:17 PM
I think this is in the wrong forum sounds like B. S. to me to sell FTA's

Going UP

bols2dawaLL
04-15-2005, 11:24 PM
Is it bogus and uter bullshit that Europe enjoys Nagra2 hacked tv?


absolutely

Chevy45
04-16-2005, 12:23 AM
what I heared that software needed to run Nagra 2 on FTA is bigger in space that what actual FTA's memory can handle, and that they are now new models with bigger memory chips, so now they can handle nagra 2, well time will tell.

smilingjack
04-16-2005, 12:36 AM
Sounds funny to me, The FTA should have a TSOP big enough to hold a 2700 flash it's only half a flash and N2 works on the 2700

bols2dawaLL
04-16-2005, 12:36 AM
it's kinda like sayin there is a woman out there that can handle a 2 foot long dick , unfortunatly there are no 2 ' long dicks .

- at least i hope not

smilingjack
04-16-2005, 12:38 AM
Yes there is, or was if he is still alive, long dong silver, black porn star, he was tall and it hung down below his knees, used to tie it in a knot

bols2dawaLL
04-16-2005, 12:40 AM
ah , so there is hope - LOL

vmod32
04-16-2005, 12:40 AM
Haha

bols2dawaLL
04-16-2005, 12:45 AM
SJ - your knowledge knows no bounds - lol

smilingjack
04-16-2005, 01:12 AM
Hugh Heffner has her at his mansion

smilingjack
04-16-2005, 01:17 AM
I am an old porno fan, from the days it was illegal and I rented my 8mm movies to people for parties.

Long Dong was quite a star in the old days. People would buy his movies just to see "it"
Now-a-days the 'stars' are just avegrage size, about my size. Texas medium I have worn off 3 inches off over the years.
Once a pirate always a pirate, arrrrr matey

bols2dawaLL
04-16-2005, 01:19 AM
yup i remember ol long dong well (the bastard) . seen many a 8mm at "stags" in the day .

smilingjack
04-16-2005, 01:28 AM
Thall shalt not covet thy neighbors long dong while looking at your short one. hehehe
Few of those movies and I wondered what was wrong with me too. hahaha
we are showing our age again te he

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smilingjack
04-16-2005, 06:58 AM
satscams is on them like stink on shit, their overseas serVer is giving them notice to shut down.

ANOTHER SCAM

rafter94
04-16-2005, 07:02 AM
:) As I read various post through out this forum……I keep running across questions regarding …..“Is my FTA Satellite Receiver ready or compatible for Nagra Two". Well read on……

If you open up to view the insides of an actual true Dish Network Satellite Receiver….the latest model. You will find that Dish Network Satellite Receivers use the same identical Microprocessor Chip that most of the FTA Satellite Receivers use…..the Sti5518 – it’s the brain (so-to-speak). So that tells us something. If Dish Network latest/newest Satellite Receivers are using the same identical Microprocessor that most of the Old and New Model FTA Receivers use, having the same part number (Sti5518) – then most (if not all) models of FTA Satellite Receivers are ready for “Nagra Two” – “Nagra Three” – “Nagra Four”, etc., etc., etc. Now it’s just a matter of creating the proper Nagra Two software to install in the FTA Satellite Receivers. Any electronic technician or computer engineer will tell you I am correct….at least “in theory”.

Dish Network’s Satellite Access Card is nothing more than computer software......it’s the software on Dish Network Satellite Access Card which carries Nagra Two data – not the actual receiver. Hence: if we could apply this same identical "Software" to our FTA Microchip, yes we would have "Nagra Two" (so-to-speak) in theory.

The software on Dish Network Card….tells the Microprocessor Chip (Sti5518) what NEW directions to follow. And I repeat…… it is not the actual Dish Network Receiver that is Nagra Two Ready, but the software on the Access Cards. Remember, Dish Network has done a Satellite Card Access Swap/Change, not a Satellite Receiver Swap/Change. And when designing NEW Access Satellite Cards for Dish Network (or Direct TV) – these Computer Encryption Technician Designers – have to remember and keep in mind, that they are limited in design. Meaning that they can only make the NEW Satellite Access Card only do so much, no matter how much technology is out their and currently available. Due to the fact that Dish Network (and Direct TV) customers still have MANY older (nearly obsolete) Satellite Receivers out their. These older Receivers can barely handle the NEW Nagra Two Data. And just because of this reason is Dish Network and Direct TV’s major draw-back.

If Dish Network and Direct TV would make an actual Satellite Receiver swap and release a totally NEW Satellite Receiver's with the latest in Digital Satellite Technology – then ALL of us that are currently using FTA Satellite Receiver’s to view Dish Network Broadcasting would be totally screwed. And YES – we would need an entirely NEW FTA Receiver built with similar electronics and technology as a Dish Network Receiver. Dish Network or Direct TV will not do that, because it is not economical and would cost them two much money to replace each Satellite Receiver and to much time involved, plus at the same time – they may loose some customers due to this Satellite Receiver swap-out and exchange. So as for not upgrading Satellite Receivers – is one of Dish Network and Direct TV’s main drawbacks, and you can ask any satellite technician about that too of what I am saying.

You forguet something.. DTV and DISH can update the receiver firmware via datastream they not need to replace the IRD's if the tsop's have memery to support the new firmware

general
04-16-2005, 09:02 AM
i posted this in a thread, countrymagic still is getting all channels including porn on a blue sub, they couldnt flash his yellows so they reflashed the old blue 10. can someone clarify
this? i dont believe it but this is the only conclusion,

1. fta recievers will need n2 software (we dont know software yet)

2.old 2700 recivers are reciving n2 right now

3.must be a code issue we cant see on the recivers itself

conclusion-key has to lie in the card it self,before any speculation a hacked card
will have to be there,before we can say ftas will work.

this is what im seeing,anyone else?

Cyborg
04-16-2005, 07:51 PM
Microyal MRX 1200,,,

Darkbob
04-17-2005, 02:09 AM
Ok... I know someone who has a truck full of FTA's he's trying to unload. :)

But what bugs me most about that post is the horrible misuse of the word "two".

> two much money ... and to much time

two = Noun. The number 2. As in I have TWO girlfriends.
to = Preposition. A direction. I went TO blockbuster but they have no porn.
too = Adverb. Means Also. As in I want to see the animal porn TOO.

Now get to work dude and convince everyone to buy your FTA's! :)

--DB

jimmy
04-17-2005, 03:02 AM
i posted this in a thread, countrymagic still is getting all channels including porn on a blue sub, they couldnt flash his yellows so they reflashed the old blue 10.

I really can't believe d*$h did this, and I can't see how it's possible that they "flashed" a rom 10 to do N2...however, if it's true, all we need for a N2 hack is for that rom 10 to be dumped and the information available to us.

tridyman
04-17-2005, 11:26 PM
If we can clone a card we can see what it is subscribe by the ird and box keys on this legit cam id, just clone any ird with later software and insert the card on the clone one and you will get the sub channels. it is a good start.

qwerty5
04-23-2005, 01:46 AM
Hope this boosts optimizm

smilingjack
04-23-2005, 02:01 AM
Hope this boosts optimizm


That picture is from a old scam that went around in August or September, Then they were selling cards for $ 300 to get N2 channels.

Phoney, Phoney Phoney, Don't tell me someone is using that same old picture to try to sell FTA's.

If it is post the information and I will get satscams to shut them down.
The least they could have done was get a different picture.

Sj

fatboy29
04-23-2005, 03:32 AM
lets start here do you get porno if yes do you have right now if you dont i think its a stupid and crazy question don you think dont get pissed off i was just thinking out loud ...............................