2700 IRD JTAG, Help!

[ericf1234]

Hello- I am a newbie at this and am having a problem. I just received one of Mili's Jtag units and a MagicCard2 to convert to another carrier (xpressvu to Dish)- and I can read my IRD's # and box keys, back them up- but when I want to erase the SA5 segment in order to force the unit to download new TSOP from the Dish 110 West satellite I'm aimed at- it keeps telling me "Flash Timeout (DQ5 set)" and then instructs me that there is an "Error Erasing Sector". I also tried erasing the whole TSOP image (I had a backup) and it gave me the same errors. I just can't seem to erase anything in the IRD. I have followed the "How-To" directions for jtagging to the letter- but it's still a no-go. This IRD may have some sort of digital lock on it- it was being used with an Atmega128 and ran for 9 months without being ECM's or locked out.

What can be done to get the SA5 location cleared so I can download a new TSOP image from the network?

[ericf1234]

Update: I took cover off IRD and found a TSOP lock- switched it to "unlock" and erased SA5- now I have real problems.

Hooked unit up to satellite to download new/updated TSOP and it powered up/down for over a hour- I finally gave up and thought I should look at it with jkeys. Jkeys wouldn't read anything from the IRD but the basic unit type (ST-5500i). Apparently I have blown the eeprom and flash settings somehow- but I don't know what file/files I need to get to repair this- I backed up the tsop a couple of days ago- but trying to restore this has generated errors- so I need a "clean" TSOP setup- i.e. both the EEPROM and "Flash" settings. However, I notice that the ones available for download seem to indicate there are different IRD revision numbers (2 letter "codes" of some sort)- where might I find these "codes" so as to get the right files?

Any help would be appreciated- I'm getting to the point where I feel like pulling my hair out.

[dishuser]

Try this first.Remove wire from lock to R259 and jump the 2 pads at R259.
By the way your eeprom build configuration is on the little white sticker of motherboard.
D=eeprom and A=tsop

[smilingjack]

With a 2700 you may have to get a 2800 out of the files section and change the numbers and load that, some of them will not change providers with just a SA5 sector erase.

[ericf1234]

OK, I can jump the R259- is this just for a moment or two- or exactly how long do these stay this way? I have a little sticker attached to a box marked "Build Config" with a small barcode and "COCD" on it- this sound like a valid config. code?

And lastly- which numbers am I changing to get it to work on a 2700? I am completely new to this and have no idea which numbers/where are applicable to what (seems to be quite the learning curve here. ;) ).

[smilingjack]

The COCD is the build confog, it is part of the flash, when you look for a new one look for as close a match as you can find, all 4 COCD is best......COC is fine........CO should work......C would be streaching it you will probably fine 3 or maybe 2 the same.

The numbers on a public file are usuallu gone or say 1234567-89 to protect the donators numbers. The box key numbers same thing.

You use flashedit to give it your numbers, you can get the R001234567-89 from a metal plate on the back of the IRD the box key you will have to read from your card with the programmer and put in with flashedit.

ALL CAPS - NO SPACES - NO 'letter o' just zeros '0'

[ericf1234]

I had the box keys and IRD# recorded- so that was no problem. I removed the R259 wire and shorted the pins- then I got a COCD TSOP file, changed the IRD# and box keys to match my setup.

Then I had more difficulties. I used FlashEdit to modify the public TSOP file and save a "virgin EEPROM" image and the full TSOP- and used Jkeys to try and write it. The eeprom image would write ok- but the ird#, box keys and configuration, bootstap, etc. were still garbled and trying to use the flash programming option always results in "The flash codes returned are not recognized by Jkeys. Mfg/Device codes returned are FA25/2532 (JEDEC) and FA25/2532 (Flashfile). Any idea what is going on here and how I can work around it?

Thanks again for the assistance.

[smilingjack]

Are you using J-Keys 2.0.11.026

[ericf1234]

I am using JKeys 2.9.10

[smilingjack]

change it is i the files section, may get better results

[ericf1234]

The oldest version I can find around here is 2.0.18- is there somewhere I'm missing? (Found 2.0.18 in the Misc. Utilities category).

[smilingjack]

That's no good

here it is

bed time for me have to get up early

good luck

[ericf1234]

Got it- it solved the eeprom/flash writing problem.

So- I put in another TSOP with a wiped SA5- nothing going there- so then I got a copy of a "CAC.." TSOP already setup for dish, changed the IRD# and box keys and loaded that. Plugged IRD in- nothing- so I left it alone all night and this morning I have power and the basic IRD menu's- but the formerly 100% lock on the EchoStar 100 West Satellite is "gone" with the new setup. My dish wasn't moved, the cable wasn't damaged- cannot explain why it says there is no satellite signal now. I think I'll go back and re-load my original ExpressVu TSOP and see if will then see the [wrong] satellite.

Ever hear of something like this happening before?

[smilingjack]

You will only get 110-119 with dish, and you have to do a switch check to change the settings on it.

[ericf1234]

??? I don't follow- when the IRD was setup for xpressvu- I realigned the satellite at Echo 110W (expressvu IRD did recognize it as "wrong satellite" and told me it was EchoStar 100 West. Then after all this fiddling- the re-programmed IRD for use on DishNetwork stated there was no satellite signal at all.

I can do a "switch check" and did this while fiddling but saw nothing special- but there is no switch- I just have one LNB pointing at Echo 110- figured I wasn't going to worry about 119 until I got everything sorted out. If I do another switch check- should it give me some sort of option(s) I haven't seen yet?

[smilingjack]

the IRD is still looking for bev and with a dish flash in it ti can't see it anymore

If you had two dishes before and only 1 now it is really confused it still has two in the memory.

Or none at all.

It should come up, did you changes your card including tonights public key change ? the new key is in my sig below

[ericf1234]

I've only ever had one sat. dish connected to the IRD. How do I override the IRD to stop looking for an Expressvu Dish? Also- when the IRD was setup for expressvu- it could "see" the Dish 110 satellite- but called it "wrong"- doesn't the Dish flash allow it to see "wrong" satellite signals as well? Or would the IRD be "lying" to me when I realigned it and it was seeing something completely different than the Dish 110W satellite?

And being new at this- the new keys- these go on the flash/IRD or on a ROM card (MagicCard2 in my case)?

[smilingjack]

A switch check is something you have to do all the time.
If you put a dish flash in it will look for the dish transponders when you do the check.
the aiming part of the program is not attached to the switch part. it is not saved like switch info in the flash.
now if you look at the aim program it will (or should say) wrog sat when it is cclicked on Bev sats. and give a green strength meter on the dish sats.



The normal way to change over from bev is to

1. move the dish so you get a wrong sat on 110-119 but you tune to a good signal
anyway.

2. erase the SAx and restream to update to dish (some will not do it this way and you have to get a dish flash like you did)

3. change your cards programming from bev to dish, (including the new public keys)

4. watch TV

[smilingjack]

you still have to do a switch check everytine you change anything at all.
Whether you have a switch of not, the guy that uploaded that flshe may have had 3 dishes hooked to it.

running it again will clear that information and set it to see with one eye, if you add a dish and switch you will have to do it again,

[ericf1234]

OK- I'm making progress now. I dumped the original ExpressVu IRD and Card info back in, wiped SA5 and it downloaded the Dish TSOP for the IRD. Seems the root of all my problems was that the R259 board location HAS to be shorted for proper writes to the EEPROM and flash. I also found a trace from R259 with a break- this may have been caused by me or whoever installed the digital lock before I ever got the IRD.

In any event- I used the new public keys on the MagicCard and can watch some channels. Unfortunately, the "Channel Guide" theme search doesn't work- it always runs out of time and dumps me back to the last channel that was being viewed. Problem that is fixable?

However, there are a pile that say "Error- cannot view unless in the designated viewing zone." If I were to change the location ID on the magic card- will this fix this? And if so- which location/id typically gets the greatest number of channels?

Next, another bunch say "Error- You require a new smartcard, please call..."- is this a programming problem, or have these channels already been converted to the N2 format?

Also- no PPV will come in- same message mentioned above. Is this also part of the N2 switchover?

Some channels don't tune in at all and dump me back to channel 102 "Pay Per View Preview"- is this because I only have one satellite dish hooked up or is something else likely causing this?

Then, another pile of channels that will tune in have "Warning- You must obtain a new card by 08/31 to continue watching this channel." Is this also part of the N2 conversion?

And lastly- I really only get about 2 dozen channels with no warning/pausing.

I had thought that Dish wasn't going to N2 fully until January. How can I avoid being wiped clean by 08/31?

Sorry for such a stack of questions- I'm still trying to sort this all out.

[110º]

No....

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Yes....

Yes....

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Nothing you can do about 8/31...

Read around for more info .....

[smilingjack]

OK- I'm making progress now. I dumped the original ExpressVu IRD and Card info back in, wiped SA5 and it downloaded the Dish TSOP for the IRD. Seems the root of all my problems was that the R259 board location HAS to be shorted for proper writes to the EEPROM and flash. I also found a trace from R259 with a break- this may have been caused by me or whoever installed the digital lock before I ever got the IRD.

In any event- I used the new public keys on the MagicCard and can watch some channels. Unfortunately, the "Channel Guide" theme search doesn't work- it always runs out of time and dumps me back to the last channel that was being viewed. Problem that is fixable?

It may be part of the N2 changeover

However, there are a pile that say "Error- cannot view unless in the designated viewing zone." If I were to change the location ID on the magic card- will this fix this? And if so- which location/id typically gets the greatest number of channels?

That is a spotbeam channel. Levae the zip code blank, you may or may not get it that way.

Next, another bunch say "Error- You require a new smartcard, please call..."- is this a programming problem, or have these channels already been converted to the N2 format?

Yes that is a N2 channel, all gone

Also- no PPV will come in- same message mentioned above. Is this also part of the N2 switchover?

They are N2, all gone

Some channels don't tune in at all and dump me back to channel 102 "Pay Per View Preview"- is this because I only have one satellite dish hooked up or is something else likely causing this?

i would say yes

Then, another pile of channels that will tune in have "Warning- You must obtain a new card by 08/31 to continue watching this channel." Is this also part of the N2 conversion?

They will be N1 until the 31st then N2 only

And lastly- I really only get about 2 dozen channels with no warning/pausing.

That's all that is left, it is almost over

I had thought that Dish wasn't going to N2 fully until January. How can I avoid being wiped clean by 08/31?

you can't

Sorry for such a stack of questions- I'm still trying to sort this all out.


OK you waited too long to change over, not much left and it will be gone soon