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old school
08-30-2005, 03:47 AM
If I call dish to subscribe and tell them I want to do the install myself...how do you get your equipment? Local retailer, UPS, USPS, etc.?
coppermouse
08-30-2005, 03:36 PM
They may not do that, now most systems require them to install.
You can go on ebay, buy a new in box receiver, and dish(s) and set them up then call them and have them activate.
I believe the new subscriptions, you are only leasing the receiver and do not actually own it.
t160hq
08-31-2005, 02:45 AM
If you are getting the equipment under any of the special offers. eg the free receivers and dish if you agree to sub for a year. Self install is not a option. No idea why they won't let you install yourself just know they won't.
For self installation you have to purchase the equipment from a local retailer. Don't know about other areas, but around here DN sellers are dropping out fast. Try Sears. They used to sell em. Likely still do. You will have to pay full price for the receivers but you can self install with no problem. Radio Shack is another option but the last time I stopped at a rat shack they said they only lease now with no option to buy. In a lease case self install would not be a option. I would look for one of those out of the mainstream rat shacks. Small town type. They are likely to have old stock that they will be more than happy to sell you just to get rid of it.
If you want locals from a superdish get one and install it before calling to sub. Otherwise they want 200.00 bucks and will not let you self install it.
I highly recommend installing yourself. Every DN (charlies hired crap installers not local businesses that sell and install) installed system has been the worst quality install I have ever seen. Seems the rule is poorest quality wire, easiest wire runs, and as long as it works when he leaves that's all that counts.
So far I have reinstalled three systems for friends. If someone did that to my house I would shoot them on the spot on general principle. They treated those nice houses like they were house trailers. I know it takes time and time is money but if they can't do it right then they should allow the option to hire a installer who will do it right. In all three cases Charlie told them that was not a option. All three now wish they told him to go to hell. Especially, after paying to fix the damage to the house caused by the installer.
t160hq
Can't help it I just don't tolerate sloppy work. You wouldn't get away with that kind of work in someplace like japan. Only in america.
t160hq is correct. The dish installers they send out suck ass...at least in every case I've seen. Cheap ass wire, lousy fittings and marginal aiming. I wouldn't let them do an install on my place....but then again, I'd never get one to drive clear out to my place anyway. They'd have to get a topo map of my area just to find my house and then drive two hours one way. I actually saw where one of Dish's mandatory installers mounted the dish directly to the roof. I mean right through the shingles and everything. We had to go up on the roof, move the dish to the soffit where it should have been in the first place, then repair the roof so it wouldn't leak.
t160hq
08-31-2005, 05:15 AM
I actually saw where one of Dish's mandatory installers mounted the dish directly to the roof. I mean right through the shingles and everything. We had to go up on the roof, move the dish to the soffit where it should have been in the first place, then repair the roof so it wouldn't leak.
I'll be dammed. One of those reinstalles I was talking about was mounted the same way. Right to the roof. The guy didn't even make a half hearted attempt to put silcone sealant on the lag bolts prevent leakage. The liability alone for damage from water leakage would scare the hell out of me. I guess no one has nailed them to the wall for said damage yet.
Look for sub increases in future. Sounds like charlie is going to be paying for a lot of water damage in future. Gotta make it up somewhere. Unless us sub's get lucky and charlie shafted the installers and screwed them into footing the repair bills.
t160hq
old school
08-31-2005, 05:17 AM
I already have my house wired and my dish set up. I also have all the receivers I need. My idea was to sub, and use their equipment, like their dvr/hd receiver. I really don't want an installer nosing around my house. (if you know what I mean) You don't have to buy their equipment, do you? Isn't it included in the programming package?
J5063
08-31-2005, 05:31 AM
Can I Hookup Dtv And Dish To A Ten Foot Dish If So Were Are Thay At On The Belt And Are Thay On Ku-band
t160hq
08-31-2005, 05:48 AM
Well in that case old school it's just a matter of calling charlie and saying turn me on.
Any equipment you get that is included with the programming package means a DN installer comes out to install it.
As far as buying there equipment well yes it has to be DN equipment to work on the DN system. But it has the advantage of you buying the equipment mean you also have the responsibility of installing it. So you hire a installer or DIY your choice
If the question is will they turn on my DN equipment I already have installed then several factors come into play.
Short and sweet.
Cams must match receivers. In otherwords if it's the cam that came with the receiver no problem. You mentioned dvr. If it's a dvr and you have the orginal cam that came with it no problem. If it orginally came with a blue rom then they may require buying a new yellow cam. This is a bit up in the air since they may supply the new yellow cams at no charge if subbing two or more receivers. If any sort of testing was done...put all the receivers back to orginal status before calling for a sub. Orginal TSOP, boxkeys, cam ect.
If making all the receivers orginal both cam and TSOP is a problem then that is a real problem. At least the receiver orginal cam and boxkeys must be achieved to create a problem free sub. Even if you have to buy new cams to sub (cheapest solution) the TSOP on the receiver must match the orginal cam and boxkeys to avoid being suspect. Also the orginal cam (if a blue cam) must be available in it's orginal form and programming to pull this off. While this is not totally necessary it would be nice to have if they ask for it back. Unlikely but possiable.
If any of this is even remotely not a option. Then the best bet is to buy all new equipment and go from there. Any corner cutting puts you at risk and should not be attempted based on your level of risk you are willing to live with. The only option I'm willing to say is risk free is all new equipment or recently purchased used equipment for subbing purposes.
t160hq
maxheadroom
08-31-2005, 07:36 AM
If your roof leaks dont forget to sue Dish network and the Installer, let the judge figure out who will pay. The Installer is an independent contractor of Dish Network meaning that Dish is still liable since this was under their direction. Ie the independent contractor was acting as employee and although the installer may have liabitity insurance, a separate claim can be made to Dish network.
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