I can’t get 110 with the DiSEqC switch

[scorps]

I hope someone can tell me what I’m doing wrong. I have the Fortec lifetime Ultra and I can’t get 110 with the DiSEqC switch. I get the 119 but not 110. When I run the 110 directly with no switch I get all the channels as soon as the switch is connected I get nothing just 119. I don’t think it is the switch itself because I bought a new one and I still have this problem. I also hooked up my friend’s ultra and I have the same problem with his receiver. I’m sure that my settings on the receiver are right I’m just not sure. Dose anyone know what might be wrong?
Thanks

[sukh77]

Is there a way to setup the ports for diseqc switch with your fta reciever. I know I have to do that with dvb card I'm pretty sure you have to do something similar. Slecet which lnb is connected on which port.

[scorps]

Yes, I've tried that with no luck.
Thanks.

[sukh77]

Well so much for that IDEA.

[t160hq]

How bout the wire from the 110 LNB to the switch. Swap it with the 119 wire and see if you lose 119.

This assumes you hooked the wire from the receiver direct to the 110 LNB when troubleshooting. If you used on of those screw on cable spilces for the connection the wire is not the problem.

t160hq

[scorps]

I'm watching 110 right now with no switch and it works great so I don't think it's the wire.

[bintryin123]

scorps, you wrote:
"I’m sure that my settings on the receiver are right I’m just not sure."

I would suggest you post the settings you chose for both 110 and 119 in your receiver setup. Also, post which satelites are connected to which hubs on your switch. From there, I'm pretty sure we can fix you up.

[spanky macdouga]

I hope someone can tell me what I’m doing wrong. I have the Fortec lifetime Ultra and I can’t get 110 with the DiSEqC switch. I get the 119 but not 110. When I run the 110 directly with no switch I get all the channels as soon as the switch is connected I get nothing just 119. I don’t think it is the switch itself because I bought a new one and I still have this problem. I also hooked up my friend’s ultra and I have the same problem with his receiver. I’m sure that my settings on the receiver are right I’m just not sure. Dose anyone know what might be wrong?
Thanks

Here is a C&P but I can't remeber who originally posted it (crow???):



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Dishpro how to:

1. Install and align the dish using the AZ, EL, and SKEW settings
for your location

2. Connect a rg6 coaxial cable from one of the outputs of your dishpro
twin or quad lnbf to the IF input on your receiver. You need no switch
to receive 110-119. (If you wish to receive additional sats see below)

3. Download a Dishpro channel list such as "Working 3" by Wingnut or
create your own(see below)

4. Open the installation menu of your receiver and setup as follows:
Lnbf-Standard
Freq-11250
22khz-Off
119-Diseqc1
110-Diseqc2

5. Enable keys

6. Watch TV

NOTES:

If you should wish to add additional dishes to receive a third and even a fourth sat you must add a external 4x1 Diseqc switch or DP 34 switch. you must feed both port 1 and 2 with both(or in case of a quad,2) outputs from the lnbf. you can then add a third dish to port 3 and even a fourth to port 4. If using a diseqc switch, the additional dish or dishes do not have to have "Pro" lnbfs. If using a DP34 switch the additional dishes must also have D/P lnbfs(Thanks to AC Radio for this info).

You can make your own Dishpro channel list by using Gtools to modify your favorite list. To do this open your list in gtools and edit the horizontal transponders for 110-119 and any other sat you are receiving with a D/P lnbf. To do this, subtract all horiz. transps. from 25600. enter result as transp freq and change to vertical. IE. on sat 119 transp 6 is 12297h. doing the subtraction, you get 13303. So change transp 6 to 13303 and change h to v. Now you have 13303v And will be received by your dishpro lnbf.

[scorps]

Fortec Installation setup menu

Sat 119
LNB Type Standard
LNB Local Freq 11250
22KHz OFF
DiSEqC #2
LNB Power On
TP 12224v20.000
Position Settings Disable
Satellite Scan FTA

Fortec Installation setup menu

Sat 110
LNB Type Standard
LNB Local Freq 11250
22KHz OFF
DiSEqC #3
LNB Power On
TP 12224v20.000
Position Setting Disable
Satellite Scan FTA

DiSEqC # on swtich match # set on receiver.

[bintryin123]

Do you have dishpro or legacy lnb's ? Did you use a channel list or do a satelite scan ?

[scorps]

I have tried several channel lists posted none have worked for me. I also made a channel list with Channel Master once again no luck. sat scan of 110 when hooked up to switch only comes up with five to six channels.

[bintryin123]

Fortec Installation setup menu

Sat 119
LNB Type Standard
LNB Local Freq 11250
22KHz OFF
DiSEqC #2
LNB Power On
TP 12224v20.000
Position Settings Disable
Satellite Scan FTA

Fortec Installation setup menu

Sat 110
LNB Type Standard
LNB Local Freq 11250
22KHz OFF
DiSEqC #3
LNB Power On
TP 12224v20.000
Position Setting Disable
Satellite Scan FTA

DiSEqC # on swtich match # set on receiver.

Try turning 22KHz "on" , on one of the sat's and try it. If unsuccessful, try reversing them.

[scorps]

I have tried several channel lists posted none have worked for me. I also made a channel list with Channel Master once again no luck. sat scan of 110 when hooked up to switch only comes up with five to six channels. I'm using a dishnet 500. I don't know what legacy lnb's are or if I have them but it dosn't say anything like that on my lnb's except Dishnet.

[scorps]

Try turning 22KHz "on" , on one of the sat's and try it. If unsuccessful, try reversing them.

Tried that No luck.
Thanks

[bintryin123]

Try a channel list specifically for Legacy lnb's. If you can't find one pm me with an email addy and I'll send you one. The worst that can happen is it still won't work.

[300DBZ]

The LNB's on the dish, does it look like one solid unit , or is it two seperate units ?

[scorps]

The LNB's on the dish, does it look like one solid unit , or is it two seperate units ?

it's two lnb units that Y's into one.

[300DBZ]

scorps I PM'd you.

[#40Fan]

To help you with what LNBs you have.

http://www.bellexpress.vu/dishdish.html
http://www.bellexpress.vu/dishpro.html

[After]

dont know if this helps you or not , but i had the same problem that you described , the way i fixed mine was i had to run the wires from the lnb all the way into the house and put my switch at the reciever instead of it being outside on the dish, try that i bet it fixes it

[Nagra1]

If you have legacy single or dual then you had a sw-21 switch in line....did you remove the sw-21 and replace it with a diseqc switch?

2 lnb's 1 coax connectors on each lnb = single
2 lnb's 2 coax connectors on each lnb= dual

[elvis56]

I had the exact same problem as you with the dish style seperate lnbs. I couldnt figure it out. I had to go with an 18 inch dish and two dtv lnbs tied together for it to work properly.

[scorps]

scorps I PM'd you.

It's two separate lnb’s that Y into the arm I’m pretty sure they are Legacy lnb’s

[ansul101]

hey just some info make sure you have your switch set right 119 is the left most lnb and 110 is the right follow thw wires and make sure you have the correct number on the receiver set and if it is a dish style lnb make sure that it isn't a f stlye dish lnb because that has a built in swich and wont work

[scorps]

hey just some info make sure you have your switch set right 119 is the left most lnb and 110 is the right follow thw wires and make sure you have the correct number on the receiver set and if it is a dish style lnb make sure that it isn't a f stlye dish lnb because that has a built in swich and wont work

Do you mean lnbf? because that's what I have.

[Ghengis]

As lame as it is, since running two lines sucks, After is correct.

The closer the switch is to your STB, the less the liklihood of you encountering these sorts of problems.

I don't know if they just don't through enough juice over long runs, or what, but the shorter the run the greater the reliability.

[Nagra1]

If you coax cable is old or don't have RG-6 then you could be getting a voltage drop on the cable. This is why some people can get the diseqc switch to work moving it 10 ft. from receiver...

[dave1900]

I think I have the same problem here. I can't watch channels on sat 110 and 119 at the same time. I mean when sat 110 is working, the 119 is not, and vice-versa. I had good signal readings on both sats. I tried every possible ways in the Satellite Setup and still not working.

Here is what I use:

Legacy Quad LNB
18" X 20" dish
1 RG-6 cable

[Nagra1]

I think I have the same problem here. I can't watch channels on sat 110 and 119 at the same time. I mean when sat 110 is working, the 119 is not, and vice-versa. I had good signal readings on both sats. I tried every possible ways in the Satellite Setup and still not working.

Here is what I use:

Legacy Quad LNB
18" X 20" dish
1 RG-6 cable

The Legacy Quad has a built in sw-64 switch, these are not compatible with most FTA receivers.

[dave1900]

Thank you Nagra1. I guess I have no choice but to replace that Quad lnb.

[crashnburn]

you want to bet it's the Diseq? I had the same problem and took me weeks to figure it out. I tried switching out with 4 other brand new Diseq and the shit did not help. I tried everything from triple checking th coaxle is good, the connectors are tight, swithcing out Diseq...NOTHING works. I either get one or the other. Anyway, I di more searching and found several people had the same problem and a few guys suggested to get a different swithc other then that cheap ass made in China or Korea Diseq. What do you know? Swap out the Diseq with the DP21 I got off from eBay and everything works well. Signal was stronger, and not loss of quality.

believe it or not it's up to you because I had the same damn problem. Easiest way is to run down to radio Shack or your local store to pick up a DP21. Better yet, borrow from a friend just for testing purpose. if it works then return it and buy it off from ebay. I got mine for $10 each. And you can try this as well to see if I am correct.

First I bet the line from the dish to your receiver is longer then 10 feet. So try to do a test if you have a portable or small TV and hook it up so that the cable from the dish to the receiver is less then 10 feet. If you get both signal then you know damn sure it's the cheap switch. That's how I confirm the cheap Diseq was the problem. Not sure what a DP21 switch look like? Search for it on ebay and you will see. You can get either DP21 or DP34. Now I know why they included the Diseq for free..because it's a piece of shit

[scorps]

you want to bet it's the Diseq? I had the same problem and took me weeks to figure it out. I tried switching out with 4 other brand new Diseq and the shit did not help. I tried everything from triple checking th coaxle is good, the connectors are tight, swithcing out Diseq...NOTHING works. I either get one or the other. Anyway, I di more searching and found several people had the same problem and a few guys suggested to get a different swithc other then that cheap ass made in China or Korea Diseq. What do you know? Swap out the Diseq with the DP21 I got off from eBay and everything works well. Signal was stronger, and not loss of quality.

believe it or not it's up to you because I had the same damn problem. Easiest way is to run down to radio Shack or your local store to pick up a DP21. Better yet, borrow from a friend just for testing purpose. if it works then return it and buy it off from ebay. I got mine for $10 each. And you can try this as well to see if I am correct.

First I bet the line from the dish to your receiver is longer then 10 feet. So try to do a test if you have a portable or small TV and hook it up so that the cable from the dish to the receiver is less then 10 feet. If you get both signal then you know damn sure it's the cheap switch. That's how I confirm the cheap Diseq was the problem. Not sure what a DP21 switch look like? Search for it on ebay and you will see. You can get either DP21 or DP34. Now I know why they included the Diseq for free..because it's a piece of shit


Thanks I'll try the DP21 and see if it works. Nothing else I've tried has. I'm almost ready to pack it in.

[chodog]

scorps
I believe that if you replace the switch, you should use a SW 22 not a SW21. The SW21 worked on the DN setup, but, will not work on a FTA Receiver. Good luck!!cho

[ohfyk]

dishnet switch sw21 will not work
you need a diseqc switch.
i am currently picking up 61.5, 110, and 119 with dvb card, but i had to change switch from sw21 to diseqc.
cost $13 cdn shipping included on ebay, for pansat diseqc switch. works great!
legacy lnb will work, as long as they are single's, (and i think what is called twins)
but dual(i think) and quads won't work because they have built in sw21 switchs.
good luck

[qzyl2m]

If I understand correctly my dish 500 with dual lnb with built in switch will not work for Fortec ultra lifetime. Will it work for 110. If not what do I need to do.
Can I run 2 RGB cables from the LNB to a Desc switch or do I have to change the LNB.

Thanks

[ohfyk]

i think that if you only want to watch channels from 110 your current lnb will work, just run single coax from lnb to ird. I think the problems arise when you try to combine signals from multiple sat's, so if you want to add other sats thats when you need the diseqc switch
hope this helps,
good luck

[calin]

Better a DP-34!

[scorps]

Better a DP-34!
I bought a DP-34. should get it Monday. I'll try that.

[beanerspeed]

put your 22k ON both and 119 goes on tone A and 110 tone B lmb power ON both as well. Hope this helps works for me and about ten others I know.

[scorps]

put your 22k ON both and 119 goes on tone A and 110 tone B lmb power ON both as well. Hope this helps works for me and about ten others I know.
Thanks Tried that, didn't work for me.

[Nagra1]

You been asked several times what kind of lnb's do you have. So far you all you said is 2 seperate lnb's with a yoke....if they were Legacy lnb's then you would had a sw-21 switch, if DP lnb's you would had a DP-21 switch....sw=legacy dp=dish pro


Only a couple of things could be wrong if you have your diseqc and lnb setting correct.....

You probably have your diseqc located near the dish antenna, you either have a bad switch, or you are getting a voltage drop on the coax......

You can move the switch closer to the receiver, or replace the coax with a good RG-6 coax, Belden is a good brand....Radio shack is a bad choice....

If Legacy lnb's then a DP-34 will not work....

Did you have a Dish receiver with this antenna? If so what model?

[Just4FunNC]

Ok Guys I got my Junk fixed, For some reason the DiSEqU Switch 4x1 will not work out side. I Ran TWO cables from the dish one from 119 and one from 110 inside the house and I got all my channels back. I also want to give a . I guess this is the part they call testing. I have the Lifetime Ultra
Danny

[Nagra1]

Ok Guys I got my Junk fixed, For some reason the DiSEqU Switch 4x1 will not work out side. I Ran TWO cables from the dish one from 119 and one from 110 inside the house and I got all my channels back. I also want to give a . I guess this is the part they call testing. I have the Lifetime Ultra
Danny

Outside or inside had nothing to do with it, it's called voltage drop...when locating the diseqc switch at the far end of cheap coax or runs over 65 ft' the voltage may drop below what is necessary to operate the switch....moving the switch closer to the receiver can solve this problem...

[crashnburn]

it work because the distance of the wire might be shorter when you ran inside the house instead of wrapping around from the outside. Again, read my previous psot as the cheap Diseq will have an impact on the distance of the cable. Again, I had tried DP21 and proved my theory. Scorps, I will guaranteed you that once you switch it out with the DP34 or 21 whichever you bought will resolve you problem. Just remember to make the changes in the Sat menu installation accodringly. Post back result once you get your DP34.

[scorps]

it work because the distance of the wire might be shorter when you ran inside the house instead of wrapping around from the outside. Again, read my previous psot as the cheap Diseq will have an impact on the distance of the cable. Again, I had tried DP21 and proved my theory. Scorps, I will guaranteed you that once you switch it out with the DP34 or 21 whichever you bought will resolve you problem. Just remember to make the changes in the Sat menu installation accodringly. Post back result once you get your DP34.

I have a DP34 on the way and I'll will try it but the only thing that I'm confused about is I have Legacy LNB's will the DP34 actually work? If the DP34 dosn't work I'll then run two new cables ( witch I'm trying to avoid ).
Thanks for all your help.

[#40Fan]

Finally, got the LNB question answered. Nope, the DP34 won't work with the Legacy LNBs. You need DP LNBs to get the DP34 to work.

[scorps]

Finally, got the LNB question answered. Nope, the DP34 won't work with the Legacy LNBs. You need DP LNBs to get the DP34 to work.

sorry I thought I answered the LNB question before. Guess not. So DP34 wont work. That's what I thought. oh well $10 down the shitter.

[Just4FunNC]

it work because the distance of the wire might be shorter when you ran inside the house instead of wrapping around from the outside. Again, read my previous psot as the cheap Diseq will have an impact on the distance of the cable. Again, I had tried DP21 and proved my theory. Scorps, I will guaranteed you that once you switch it out with the DP34 or 21 whichever you bought will resolve you problem. Just remember to make the changes in the Sat menu installation accodringly. Post back result once you get your DP34.

Whats the DIFFERENCE crashnburn , The switch I am useing is the one that came with the receiver and I figured out how to make it work and the rest of these people can make it work that way as well without spending a lot of money when they don't have to.Read my avatar crashnburn

[crashnburn]

This is strange. I am using the legacy LNB (not the Twin) right now and it works perfectly fine. The only difference is that I'm using hte DP21 instead of the DP34. Some recommended the DP34 because you can connect to multiple receivers whereas the DP21 can only connect to 1 receiver. So if you have a second receiver then you will have to get another DP21.

I don't see why the DP34 did not work when it fact it's the same as DP21 but just with multiple receiver out.

I have set up several people with this and no one has problem. I even setup one guy using DirecTV dish and DirecTV LNBs. I just tie wrapped another DirecTV LNB to the existing one. So the setup will be like this. One LNB go Dish1 of the DP21 and the Second LNB goes to the Dish2 on the DP21. And then "To Receiver" just runs to the receiver.