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ibleaf
11-09-2005, 03:35 AM
anyone think that there will be a temp fix tonight

i know that the main site says so but we have not seen nothing yet

thanks

j0intheparty
11-09-2005, 03:48 AM
I would be very suprised to see any fixes this week, but thats JMHO. It appears the AVR-X team is more worried about collecting more money from resellers than supporting current card holders. I am sure AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X. is not going to rip them off for 5 cards, and even if he did who are we to care. We have fully paid cards with zero support, and for them not to follow through will be a huge loss to the AVR-X community. The whole DM incident should be kept to themselves or posted on Satscams so at least he can respond.

Feverishly working on collecting money and not working on a fix lol

Hopefully by the weekend we will see something.

JTP

Why cant we say DM's full name?????????

tile
11-09-2005, 03:56 AM
I would be very suprised to see any fixes this week, but thats JMHO. It appears the AVR-X team is more worried about collecting more money from resellers than supporting current card holders. I am sure AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X. is not going to rip them off for 5 cards, and even if he did who are we to care. We have fully paid cards with zero support, and for them not to follow through will be a huge loss to the AVR-X community. The whole DM incident should be kept to themselves or posted on Satscams so at least he can respond.

Feverishly working on collecting money and not working on a fix lol

Hopefully by the weekend we will see something.

JTP
That's some funny S**t LOL! and a great update as to dickmonkey's problem LOL..

badger6
11-09-2005, 04:03 AM
dish monkey

ibleaf
11-09-2005, 04:14 AM
i should of got the other card

everyone talks how bad it is but it is up and running and they have
have software for it.

are you telling me that they have no software to program the avr x, how did they program it in the first place?

i think there is more gone on here then they are telling us

Darkbob
11-09-2005, 04:15 AM
Is this what you guys are talking about?

C&P from avrx web site:

We are working on the user interface feverishly. We expect a temporary fix to be ready by later on tonight (7th) or tomorrow.
We have not received any payment from AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X. for any cards yet and he has no stocks to sell. I understand he sent our payment to a nonexistent address. AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X.AVR-X. received 5 sample cards some time ago and until we are actually doing business he will not be an authorized reseller.

j0intheparty
11-09-2005, 04:25 AM
Yeah.

I know they say they are working feverishly on this but I agree with other people on this issue. They should have released a temp fix already, this is horrible for them to tell people today and today is almost over.

Dont get me wrong I hope they release software in 2 1/2 - 5 1/2 hours but I am hearing this may not happen. All I am saying is who cares about DM situation concentrate on a resolution to your loyal customers / resellers.


JTP

shopright
11-09-2005, 04:28 AM
I think its safe to say that this is more then a key change for avr-x this where the cart got ahead of the horse.

darren43
11-09-2005, 04:51 AM
Shopright ,I went to the avr x website and posted in the wholesale contact area .that was an hour or so and the exact words I said was quit worring about your fortune and start supporting your product.My next line was you got the cart ahead of the horse.I guess my analogy was close.

ibleaf
11-09-2005, 04:55 AM
your right tenblade

i am kicking my self for getting one

if i were milli i would be on these guys at avr x

how can he sell something with no support

just my thought

tile
11-09-2005, 04:58 AM
Yeah.

I know they say they are working feverishly on this but I agree with other people on this issue. They should have released a temp fix already, this is horrible for them to tell people today and today is almost over.

Dont get me wrong I hope they release software in 2 1/2 - 5 1/2 hours but I am hearing this may not happen. All I am saying is who cares about DM situation concentrate on a resolution to your loyal customers / resellers.


JTP
Your missing the point this is your entertainment portion of your $164 as for the testing portion it is how you can say Dish Monkey or dickmonkey think about it half the avr-x cards were taken out by a receiver firmwere update the other half by a key change it's like like a prizefight your sure your guy is going to win but is KO in the first round, the Loyal customer part came under has key change rollover

Ghengis
11-09-2005, 09:47 AM
How long has it been down, and some of you are whining about "No Support".

Jebus! "Support" doesn't mean INSTANT FIX.

If you need uninterupted TV, subscribe. Then you can complain all you like.

Just because some of the FTA boxes were up within 15 minutes, doesn't mean it's that easy for the other devices.

Perhaps they are taking the time to develop an auto-roll that actually works? If that's the case, then it's time well spent, as it will then be ahead of all the FTA boxes at this point in time.

You can't believe that Dish rolling the keys was a singularity, and as such, it would behoove the AVR-X team to come up with an actual solution, as opposed to releasing a half-arsed patch to placate the children. Do you want to be reprogramming the AVR-X every day?

Ya Man
11-09-2005, 12:13 PM
hell, i purchased both cards, just in case one went down hopefully the other stayed up, who knows maybe next time AVR-X stays up and the s------ goes down. If that happened i laugh at the other guy that posted earlier on a other thread. happy testing

bosruten
11-09-2005, 03:13 PM
How long has it been down, and some of you are whining about "No Support".

Jebus! "Support" doesn't mean INSTANT FIX.

If you need uninterupted TV, subscribe. Then you can complain all you like.

Just because some of the FTA boxes were up within 15 minutes, doesn't mean it's that easy for the other devices.

Perhaps they are taking the time to develop an auto-roll that actually works? If that's the case, then it's time well spent, as it will then be ahead of all the FTA boxes at this point in time.

You can't believe that Dish rolling the keys was a singularity, and as such, it would behoove the AVR-X team to come up with an actual solution, as opposed to releasing a half-arsed patch to placate the children. Do you want to be reprogramming the AVR-X every day?


(Perhaps they are taking the time to develop an auto-roll that actually works? If that's the case, then it's time well spent, as it will then be ahead of all the FTA boxes at this point in time.)

The above statement may be true but don't you think they should have done this before releasing the card?Alot like microsoft i guess lets throw it out there make our money and patch it later LOL.

tkdusa
11-09-2005, 03:35 PM
I haven't posted here before I just read, however more peeps need to read. the site says software tonight, not this morning it says tonight. Now if the software isn't out tonight then people have a right to start questioning. I haven't bought anything to test with yet, I pay for my sub to have tv and will test with something when the dust settles a bit more. alot of just freetvers jumped on this card when you knew going in there was no software out. duh come on people don't complain when you knew it going in. This is what testing is all about nothing is free including tv. I am not defending the Axr-x but don't start freakin out until the promise is broken. I have no knowledge of this but I feel they will release something or their sales will stop completly. the number of cards they have sold is a small number to what they will sell if they release good software. Be patience and lets see what happens today! or I should say tonight!



Happy Testing...LOL

fubr
11-09-2005, 03:51 PM
(Perhaps they are taking the time to develop an auto-roll that actually works? If that's the case, then it's time well spent, as it will then be ahead of all the FTA boxes at this point in time.)

The above statement may be true but don't you think they should have done this before releasing the card?Alot like microsoft i guess lets throw it out there make our money and patch it later LOL.
Thats quite a qunadry...
Would we be better off not hearing much less purchasing a AVR-X than we would be if we never heard of it.
Then would we be saying "when is there gonna be a hack for N2 or would we be lined up waiting on the other thing?
Yes it is a pickle but If I was the guy I would have done it also and got my name in the hat only IF I knew I would be able to get it to work after a key roll or change or what ever it is we are experiencing rite now.
I mainly hope it is worth the wait.
I cant watch till weekends anyway I work way to much during week :)

bintryin123
11-09-2005, 03:53 PM
Sounds like a recurring nightmare , can you say "Magic Card" ? How about Magician ?

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 03:57 PM
Ahhh! Reminds me of the good old times we had with MagicCard!

Anybody that paid 1 cent for this untested card deserves exactly what they got!

I did not and will not buy either for a while. and before you say it, no you are not testing the cards, all you did was give some coder his lunch money!

marin001
11-09-2005, 04:12 PM
is the syndrome card harder to work with as i have'nt bought one or the other yet. if you ask me fta seems the better way to go, unless they are also down. seems like an honest site but could'nt it be possible that DM and others alike were manipulated abit (possible ain't it)

RJH
11-09-2005, 04:16 PM
tbelise,

If you are going to sit on the fence perhaps you should consider changing
your sig line. LOL

I did not and will not buy either for a while. and before you say it, no you are not testing the cards, all you did was give some coder his lunch money!
__________________
Procrastination is like masterbation, In the end, you're really only fucking yourself!

omare
11-09-2005, 04:23 PM
I say we give it time. Even with DSS testing, things are changing from the way they used to be. Long ago a solution wasn't available for months at a time when it came to testing.

Now I think people expect a quick fix, a quick N2 solution, a plugin fix, a 1-minute-back-to-free-tv.. whatever. I do agree with people who say "if you want uninterrupted TV then pay a sub".

Even if the avrx hadn't gone down so soon, it was bound to happen sooner or later, even with the S card. Charlie is not gonna stand there watching how quickly everyone got heir fixes and started watching porn again. The battle has just started and it's such a fun ride.

I'm glad I got in for the ride....

vmod32
11-09-2005, 04:31 PM
TB same here, I too did not buy one because the software is not out yet, I'll wait. Look at the A2 card, same deal. I don't really want to buy anything I can't support myself. However, if they deliver as promised I may reconsider. I really hope they don't mess this up, there is alot riding on it....

tkdusa
11-09-2005, 04:54 PM
tkdusa... they posted that on the 7th.. :)

was refering to a post made 12 hours ago as of this post. I should have quoted some of the posts I was responding to. My bad

thanks

Darkbob
11-09-2005, 05:05 PM
The avr-x web site is still saying a fix will be out on the 7th or 8th. But the software download link says "coming soon".

I'd say that it will be more likely out by the end of the week or even into next week. The recent changes are big and it's going to take the AVRX people some time to fix it.

This will hurt sales of the AVRX but only in the short term.

What pisses me off is the FTA guys are laughing at us. Those guys bug me.

--DB

dishmonkey
11-09-2005, 05:09 PM
Guys enough bullshit please! We are an avr-x reseller. Everyone like pictures as proof right? Does that look like 5 to anyone else? WTF is wrong with a little friendly competition?

edit - lol, cannot say ********** any longer? That is a first. How about dickmonkey, I like that suggestion.

DrRa
11-09-2005, 05:13 PM
check your email.

hotrodder1039
11-09-2005, 05:41 PM
Guys enough bullshit please! We are an avr-x reseller. Everyone like pictures as proof right? Does that look like 5 to anyone else? WTF is wrong with a little friendly competition?

edit - lol, cannot say ********** any longer? That is a first. How about dickmonkey, I like that suggestion.

so you have a box full of cards that are no good?

Dish it.
11-09-2005, 05:42 PM
Free T.V'ers are a strange breed LOL Free T.V can get expensive, If you don't no your drug ? Then you best know your dealer . As I mentioned to one here a week before this thing arrived I'd never buy anything like this until its been hit or ecm'd then a fix was offered. 1st come 1st screwed Its that old Cha ching factor kicking in. Not to say they won't offer a work around Like one mentioned already it takes time unless you can write your own code or fix (: I'm sure Milli will stay with it he has always done what he could to keep his people in the know. Good luck

Matisse
11-09-2005, 05:44 PM
The avr-x web site is still saying a fix will be out on the 7th or 8th. But the software download link says "coming soon".

I'd say that it will be more likely out by the end of the week or even into next week. The recent changes are big and it's going to take the AVRX people some time to fix it.

This will hurt sales of the AVRX but only in the short term.

What pisses me off is the FTA guys are laughing at us. Those guys bug me.

--DB

maybe they arent laughing at you?...maybe your just disappointed that you made the decision,and it was your decision,to be one of the first to buy the latest magic card and your feeling some regret over that??
maybe us fta testers just decided to stick with whats been reliable for over a year now and sit back and read all the hype about the A2 cards...avrx's...and syndrome?

maybe next time you wont be so quick to pre-buy something until it hits the market for a month or so and you can see how stable and supported it will be???

nawwwwwww..that would mean losing out a day or so on some porn channel...right?

tbelsilie is exactly right :)

Matisse
11-09-2005, 05:56 PM
Trust me. I posted a message regarding to this AVR-X sh*t comparing to FTAs and it was removed by ...who knows?
I've learned alot from Magic Card and switched to FTA and never regret about that. I've been watching TV since N1 gone. Why don't you guys just wait for a true hack on Yellow cards or switch to FTAs? Why have to buy cards that softwares controlled by some invisible men like Magician? You're all trapped by another game. FTA has been around and improved alot. It's less headache and easy to program, no mod required and you can change keys via remote control. Don't waste your time and money on these cards.

this post has more truth to it than anyone will admit.....im surprised you didnt mention that the avrx official site had all unknown dealers except Mili.......and that FACT in and of itself,had/has Magician written all over it..... :rolleyes: :)

Matisse
11-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Guys enough bullshit please! We are an avr-x reseller. Everyone like pictures as proof right? Does that look like 5 to anyone else? WTF is wrong with a little friendly competition?

edit - lol, cannot say ********** any longer? That is a first. How about dickmonkey, I like that suggestion.

wow...thats some beautiful box of magic3 cards you have there dikmonkey.....i have a couple that actually say magic on them...want them too... :) :)

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 06:14 PM
a full box of painted magic cards hahaha

Matisse
11-09-2005, 06:19 PM
a full box of painted magic cards hahaha

ohhhhh noooo you didnt say that???????? :) :) :)

may the demi gods of dss pirating ban you straight...or gay..lol...to hell!......hehehehehe :)

Twostep
11-09-2005, 06:25 PM
The Syndrome card isn't for sale at Mili's site because there's none available, because Mili was asked for 45 grand in advance, to be hand-carried by him, to a meeting in Canada - and because half a dozen Shit-Disturbers-For-Hire came over here promoting Syndrome sales, blasting anyone who supported the AVR-X and insinuating that Mili is little more than a money-grubbing scammer.

Mili would LIKE to sell the syndrome. DickMonkey (your suggestion!), why don't you offer 100 of them at a fair price, without all the up-front shit and the hired forum assassins- and see what happens ??? Five bucks says Mili would sell them.

A Magic Card repeat? It damn sure will be, if folks are allowed to continuously come in here with comments like member Matisse just made. Magician played his part in that mess, no doubt - but if you'll remember, the Magic Card worked quite well for a long time until folks started fucking with it. The MCS hate group that permeated this forum for months on end had as much to do with the problem as the Magician. Who would like to see a repeat of all that shit ? Not this cat.

Hopefully the moderators here will take this stand - if you can back up what you're saying, then by all means, say it.
But if you are gonna just speculate, keep it civil, or keep it to yourself.

Cimba
11-09-2005, 06:27 PM
Well I see you guys are applying your great intellects and obviously valuable time to constructive discussions as usual. duh. TB and Matisse would probably like a ban, it would give them more to cry about at other sites and here.

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 06:52 PM
Ban away man... not like it has'nt been done before!
I frequent two sites, this one and a private one that you also belong to. find one post on any site made by me, (not one altered by you by the way) where I have pissed over mili or this site! YOU CAN"T!!!

I have been here a long time and went thru the site wars. SJ and I had this places back over at MCS. you can also do a little checking on that too while you are at it!

Been there, done that! In my mind, that gives me the right to say how I think this story will unfold.
Notice that most people kissing ass are mostly testing chalenged looking for a quick fix? (I am not allowed to use the word NOOB remember?)

I paid my dues here, most mods hate my guts, I made your and JT's shit list long ago, I know that, but C'mon man... just because I have a diferent opinion than you makes me (us) shit stirrers?.... Please!

Cimba
11-09-2005, 07:02 PM
Using Mili's site to bash the product he is backing is hardly taking his back. I believe you are bright enough to see that being a responsible member implies following the rules that Mili has made clear from the start. I have no shit list so don't try to make this personal, only you have done that.
My question to you is what is your agenda ? What thrill do you get by stirring up shit and bashing etc. Take the high road and see where you can help, if you can't do that then just keep it civil, don't dare us to do something and then complain that the mods here are high handed. We just have a job to do, how about you.

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 07:09 PM
well... your interpretation of bashing differs from mine.

Originally Posted by tbelisle
a full box of painted magic cards hahaha

That my friend is Irony and sarcasm, not bashing.

Yes I have stated that I do not plan to buy any cards for a while? that makes me a bad member? I owned a bunch of magics back in the day. went thru it and do not want to deal with the soa[ opera, my personal choice.,
Should I go and buy everything in the store to be welcomed here?

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 07:12 PM
Quote- being a responsible member implies following the rules that Mili has made clear from the start

Like I said... give me an example! does not agreeing with you mean not following the rules?

Matisse
11-09-2005, 07:13 PM
Ban away man... not like it has'nt been done before!
I frequent two sites, this one and a private one that you also belong to. find one post on any site made by me, (not one altered by you by the way) where I have pissed over mili or this site! YOU CAN"T!!!

I have been here a long time and went thru the site wars. SJ and I had this places back over at MCS. you can also do a little checking on that too while you are at it!

Been there, done that! In my mind, that gives me the right to say how I think this story will unfold.
Notice that most people kissing ass are mostly testing chalenged looking for a quick fix? (I am not allowed to use the word NOOB remember?)

I paid my dues here, most mods hate my guts, I made your and JT's shit list long ago, I know that, but C'mon man... just because I have a diferent opinion than you makes me (us) shit stirrers?.... Please!

hey....you could make it worse for yourself......you could be promoting the Syndrome card.......roflmao

Cimba....some of us that have been into this awhile..and have seen it all and heard it all...still refuse to be brown nosers

now...if i wanted to really start some controversy and get people thinking...id simply begin a new thread and then pose the questions......"when the avrx site popped up,how come Mili's site was the only one anyone ever heard of? is it because they are all owned by the same person and why does this card appear to have all the same inherent problems that the magic 1&2 cards had"???
you know the old saying..if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,what is it?
answer:Magician...you cant write code and count money at the same time

but no,i wont begin a thread like that...people will make up their own minds in time and decide for themselves..some have memories like elephants.....some are gullible and believe anything

oh well....at least it aint boring..right?

:) :rolleyes: :)

tbelisle
11-09-2005, 07:22 PM
_Currently on the floor!!!_

I can't believe you actualy said it! do you see the "YOU ARE AN IDIOT" screen on sign on yet?

Don't worry.... I got it more than my share and it is actualy funny as hell!

Back to the topic, this is a forum is it not? this is where people exchange views and discuss. some of you offended by opinions.
Did I push the S card? NO
Did I bash anybody? NO (Personal opinion)
Do I agree with all the info fed to me/us NO

Does that deserve a ban? If so, I probably don't want to be here anyways. This place sure has changed! no wonder the good ones left a while back.

airzimzerker
11-09-2005, 08:40 PM
The reason to give opinions on any product is to infor others. The forums are for learning arn't they? BTW, I would love to see someone actually say Magician is not involved with the AVR-x. I think this is valuable info and would influence a lot of other people in their decision.

YIH8JT
11-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Was that the ban button being clicked that I just heard? hihihi

Twostep
11-09-2005, 09:37 PM
You guys may not remember me, but I've been around since Jesus was a cowboy, just as Matisse and Tbeisle have been. I personally like both of them, despite their sassy attitudes.

I hope they don't get banned, for two reasons. First, to them, it would only be an insult that would make matters worse. Second, I don't see outright flaming taking place. BUT....

I was around during MagicCardWars, and remember how damn nasty and ugly it evolved into. And I see the comments in this thread (unneccessarily) contributing to starting the whole thing again. While these two old-timers may just be "voicing an opinion", the real shit stirrers will pick up on it, and be all over this forum like fire on a bale of hay. Who the hell needs that ?? I think that's why Cimba scolded you, wouldn't you agree? I KNOW he remembers all the fighting.

You don't like the way the AVRX is evolving? Fine, test FTA, Syndrome (good luck getting one), subscribe, whatever, knock yourselves out. Tell the rest of us about your successes. Matisse and Tbeisle, nobody's trying to shove an AVRX up YOUR asses, so don't piss in someone else's KY. Whaddya think? :p

smilingjack
11-09-2005, 09:39 PM
If this was not so funny I would close it

lets keep it impersonal though TB and Cimba

TB is a born rabble rouser, he just can't help it, must be all that Ice and Snow up there, I am running the A/C again today

YIH8JT
11-09-2005, 09:42 PM
Both parties went over board! wonder how long the ban is for those 2?

YIH8JT
11-09-2005, 09:46 PM
going back in this thread, I notice this started after a reference made to the pic posted by **********. How exactly was this knocking this site Cimba?

Twostep
11-09-2005, 10:09 PM
Nice Username. :rolleyes: I rest my case.

And folks have a problem understanding why Mili's mods get torqued off.

Why don't you just use your customary name, HateJT ? :p

mili
11-09-2005, 10:13 PM
tbelisle 2xx.254.211.202
truthhurts 2xx.254.211.2
YIH8JT 2xx.254.211.2

These are the same people. Tbelise this was the last straw, you are out of here this time permanently.

mili