Someone needed to say it

[dabarg]

I'm surprised CBS let him get away with this even though I think he is right.
AMEN ANDY ROONEY !

Andy Rooney said on "60 Minutes" a few weeks back:

I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?

I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.

I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

My father and grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.

I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn't stop you from watching them.

I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better, and put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else

And if you don't like my point of view, tough...

DON'T PASS IT ON








I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!



I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don't. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having "In God We Trust" on our money and having "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!



I AGREE !!!!

[Hack@d]

Amen.

[smilingjack]

I agree with everything he said, it may not be politicaly correct, but it makes sense to me !

[DrSagan]

I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!

Absofuckinglutely !!!

[gitmocap]

I agree with everything he has said, I don't want to be called an African American, because I am not an American. I am a person of African, European and Asian descent living in America. Even though I am a veteran of the Viet Nam War, served eight years, I am still only three fifths of a person here. I have worked in the private and the public sector and have done all the things they say a citizen should do, but I still don't have the rights Mr. Rooney has. Arnold Swartzenegger had more rights as the son of a Nazi Official when he stepped off the boat. I do not have a dream of equality just want to live in peace and hope my grandchildren join the KKK.

[gitmocap]

I also should add the Mr. Rooney works for the Corporation that owns Black Entertainment Television, and Starz in Black. It is a White owned business that was purchased from Johnson, a Black Man for more than it was worth because it was becoming to progressive.

[gkbham]

Guys, whites are the majority, if not for rules and regulations, you would only hire people who look like you. It hasn't been that long ago when that was the case (40 years or so). In case you forgot, most of those programs were designed to undo years of injustice. These injustices still occur, only now they are covered by corporate policy and crooked politicians.

[smilingjack]

Being american is a state of mind, and attitude. And behaviour.

Before the africian's were imported to this country, America had white Nxxxxxx's they were the poor, dumb, funny dressing, funny talking IRISH and they cleaned streets and toilets, shined shoes and cleand houses for the rich and were looked down on and ridaculed too for many years. Yes they had the advantage of being white but it did them little good in the beginning, being different in other ways set them apart too.

They worked hard, got educations and better jobs and became powers in their own right they did not rob, steal and kill each other and others as well as sell drugs to their own people, eventually they were accepted. Then they helped their race come out of the hole they were in. They did not ignore them and complain about the injustices.

What is needed is for the educated, smart, caring, black (or part black) people to help their poor, uneducated hole the black race has dug itself into, the minority that are criminals are the ones that are holding you back more than any white prejudices ever can and fuels the fire.
But do they stay in the Hood and help, no they get good jobs and move to the suburbs drive a lexus or SUV and look down on the rest ignoring them and letting their race rot in squalor. But they are sure to shout down from their Ivory Towers that black people are discrimintated against as they sit by the pool...............

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

[gkbham]

I do my part but many do not. It is a mindset created over several years hundreds of slavery. Look around, some are not living any better than they did 100 years ago. It's a mindset! Talk to some of the people, they are very limited in their (our) viewpoints and cannot shake years of selfish thinking.

[smilingjack]

Guys, whites are the majority, if not for rules and regulations, you would only hire people who look like you. It hasn't been that long ago when that was the case (40 years or so). In case you forgot, most of those programs were designed to undo years of injustice. These injustices still occur, only now they are covered by corporate policy and crooked politicians.


I am old enough to remember that shit the NAACP used to send people around to factory's to check and see if the "quota" of blacks was being adhered to.

I sat in the office one day when they came around and said to the white owner that xx% of the workers had to be black or they would picket and close them down.

He had the (black) timekeeper get the roster and mark the black employees off, then they got out the seniority list out and went down the list selecting people to lay off to prevent problems.

They cam up with a list that was EXACTLY what the NCCAP wanted and they smiled.

There were (75 emloyees total)

Then the owner told the time keeper to send pink slips to the 50 black men that were getting laid off to balance the racial balance and hire 50 white men to replace them.

The NCCAP people's faces fell and they stormed out, never to return

(and the boss threw the papers in the trash saying he could not afford to lose 50 of his best employees to play their game)

They had never bothered to ask or look and see that most of the employees, including the formen and supervisors were black.

Look before you leap, you may be leaping into a barrel of shit.

[gkbham]

One word... SLAVERY! Sometimes you reap what you sow!

[smilingjack]

I do my part but many do not. It is a mindset created over several years hundreds of slavery. Look around, some are not living any better than they did 100 years ago. It's a mindset! Talk to some of the people, they are very limited in their (our) viewpoints and cannot shake years of selfish thinking.


The problem is many WANT to keep things the way they are. Because it is so easy to do nothing but make more babys and get drunk & high every day.
They are comfortable being fed, housed and clothed by other people, they don't want to get educated and get a job.
It is TO EASY to get by doing nothing but a odd job or a robbery or sell some dope now and again to get things welfare, food stamps, ADC does not supply.

It has to change or it will keep getting worse.

Start a program that makes it a hardship to be a bum and they will find that edcation and jobs are not so bad after all, many have said their job paid $ 100 a week and the benefits paid $90 so why work and lose them.

I agree.
It is like being retired at 15 instead of 65 with all that work before retirement.

Lets start making education and work mandatory with benefits being reduced every year until they are gone to add some incentive to go to school and work with the alternative being starve in the dark.

[gitmocap]

You are taking the television view of Blacks. The overwhelming majority do not live in "hoods" but are rural workers and sharecroppers who do nothing but pay taxes and take s**t. I can say that my family and I were fortunate enough not to live in the conditions you describe because we had opportunity. You disregard the mafia's Italian, Scandanavian, Jewish and yes the biggest one of all, Irish. The looted and killed their own and trained their children to be 'ganstas'. Now you have the MS, the Hispanic mafia that is made up mostly of illegal immigrants who refuse to work for the White man or accept the American lifestyle. There are more of them than there are police in the U.S. and the police are afraid of them. They rape, murder and kill, get deported the return in a few weeks, some of them as many as 6 times. Who, with the directions of those in Beverly Hills, imports the drugs into the U.S.? Didn't the San Jose Mercury news report that the Reagan Administration started the large scale drug importation? Blacks cannot get into colleges but have no trouble being cannon fodder. It is the society not the people. As I pointed out to my granddaughter, you cannot tell the race of a person in England by their speech, but you certainly can in the U.S. My kids and my grandkids got into college on their own merits. They did not have to worry about propositiion 209 blocking them from schools that I worked all my life to pay for. Clinton was amazed when he visited UCLA and found that over 60 percent of the students were minorities, most of them illegal with US subsidies made possible by taxpayers like me. I had to help the daughter of a White employee get into Cal State Fullerton, by embarrasing them about the subsidized illegal alien student programs. I had happened to be on campus to change a schedule of a series of course I was taking when I witnessed and photographed the lines of immigrants picking up their "In God We Trust" checks to pay for dorms and tuitiion. She had excellent grades but there was no room in the inn for her. I went there with her father and threatened to publish the photographs and she was later admitted and made the dean's list. The U.S. promotes the "hood" culture and language. I have many media lawyer friends that live in Malibu, Bel Air and Beverly Hills getting rich off the backs of these people. I am not bitter, I just don't like being called an American only when it is convenient. I also am a registered Republican, but you need to read this administration's speeches. Karl Marx, Stalin, and Hitler would be proud. They wanted to assassinate the congressman who stated that the administration's speeches read like "Der Tag" just substituting Democracy for Communism and making the delivery. He was right.

[Hack@d]

One thing that most people don't understand,and should, is that it wasn't the whites who enslaved the blacks it was the blacks. That is correct, the blacks. They sold there own people to the white man and continue to do so today. Now this doesn't make the white man exempt, because what they did was wrong. But don't blame me for what happened long before I was born. In Canada we have the same issues but with the Indians and my comment to that is be very happy it wasn't the Japanese (here long before the whites) that decided to stay or there would be no Indians. And no I am not racist....I have black, indian, jewish, gay, mexican, etc, etc in my family.

I also think that most of you don't get what Andy was saying...it was all about political correctness not slam the blacks, gays, etc.

[gkbham]

MOST blacks are not in the hood! Just because you see (on tv) a large share of minorities in the hood does not mean that is where a majority of US reside.
True, blacks did sell blacks to slave traders and in the US slaves were used to suppress other slaves (Uncle Toms). Both mentalities still exist today.

Now days its' about finances! Poor whites will basically be treated with the same disrespect as poor blacks. The middle class is being over-taxed (both black and white) and our kids (black) have the same difficulties as you (whites) obtaining scholarships and other govenmental subsidies. It's about the money, don't be fooled by the media's slight of hand trick. Prejudice comes from ignorance. We cannot eradicate ignorance therefore there will always be some form of prejudice. If we were all the same color then people would still be discriminated based on eye or hair color, dialect, shoe size, etc. Doesn't matter, it will always exist because a certain portion of our society will always be ignorant and another portion will always seek to exploit this ignorance.

[smilingjack]

You are taking the television view of Blacks. The overwhelming majority do not live in "hoods" but are rural workers and sharecroppers who do nothing but pay taxes and take s**t.

I don't know what fantasy land you live in but there just isn't 100,000,000 black rural workers and no 'shraecropper' letf in this world.


I can say that my family and I were fortunate enough not to live in the conditions you describe because we had opportunity. You disregard the mafia's Italian, Scandanavian, Jewish and yes the biggest one of all, Irish. The looted and killed their own and trained their children to be 'ganstas'. Now you have the MS, the Hispanic mafia that is made up mostly of illegal immigrants who refuse to work for the White man or accept the American lifestyle. There are more of them than there are police in the U.S. and the police are afraid of them. They rape, murder and kill, get deported the return in a few weeks, some of them as many as 6 times. Who, with the directions of those in Beverly Hills, imports the drugs into the U.S.? Didn't the San Jose Mercury news report that the Reagan


Another fantasy, the mexicans legal and illegal all have pick up trucks and lawnmowers (fugure of speech) and work their asses off. Most of them even send money home to mexico and help support the rest of their familys


Administration started the large scale drug importation?

The Administration, well not all of it knew that in return for cheap old surplus weapons to the warlords the C.I.A. took delivery of drugs which it then sold here. They used the money to finance other operations that they were not authorized to do and so not supplied financing for. I flew for Air America, the movie was mostly a joke. We delivered guns for dope. Tons of it.


Blacks cannot get into colleges but have no trouble being cannon fodder. It is the society not the people. As I pointed out to my granddaughter, you cannot tell the race of a person in England by their speech, but you certainly can in the U.S. My kids and my grandkids got into college on their own merits. They did not have to worry about propositiion 209 blocking them from schools that I worked all my life to pay for. Clinton was amazed when he visited UCLA and found that over 60 percent of the students were minorities, most of them illegal with US subsidies made possible by taxpayers like me.

Tell me about it, I live near a medical school and most of the students can hardly speak english, I would rather see them troll the "hood" for students to support in these schools than pay for these foreigners to get a education, half of them leave the counrty wfaterwards.

I had to help the daughter of a White employee get into Cal State Fullerton, by embarrasing them about the subsidized illegal alien student programs. I had happened to be on campus to change a schedule of a series of course I was taking when I witnessed and photographed the lines of immigrants picking up their "In God We Trust" checks to pay for dorms and tuitiion. She had excellent grades but there was no room in the inn for her. I went there with her father and threatened to publish the photographs and she was later admitted and made the dean's list. The U.S. promotes the "hood" culture and language.

Actually it is the almighty dollar that promotes and supports the 'hood' crap, the rap type music and ganster movies should be banned, not allowed to make billions of dollars promoting and making rape and robbery and murder look like fun and the accepted way of life.
Make it life without parole for gun possesion and watch them throw them guns away.


I have many media lawyer friends that live in Malibu, Bel Air and Beverly Hills getting rich off the backs of these people. I am not bitter, I just don't like being called an American only when it is convenient. I also am a registered Republican, but you need to read this administration's speeches. Karl Marx, Stalin, and Hitler would be proud. They wanted to assassinate the congressman who stated that the administration's speeches read like "Der Tag" just substituting Democracy for Communism and making the delivery. He was right.

No wonder you are so un-informed, Bel Air and Malibu are barley part of the U.S. . Beverly hills is barley part of this planet, sometimes it isn't...........

[smilingjack]

Maybe we have different interpertations of what 'the hood' is gkbham

I consider 'the hood' to be any area or areas in a city or town that is mostly black. (or brown for barrio, or orential for china town)

They sure as hell don't live on farms and sharecrop any more.

[mccomp]

damn now im glad to be Canadian but after that im wishin i were a Yank well my dear ol pappy was from Ohio so i guess i can be proud to be at least half Americian

[smilingjack]

Just wait, you will be assimilated, 53rd state Mexico will the 52nd
America Uber Allis
We will need a place to send our disenfranchsed next time they burn their ghetto's down like they did watts.
Why not to Canada ?

[gitmocap]

Maybe you think I am slamming the Hispanics. I have many in my family and they are all legal. Contrary to the TV view all of the Mexicans and OTM's do not work with lawnmowers of push baby carriages. My friends here in the Marina charge approximately $47 an hour with a minimum of $22 for boat washdowns. They do not pay income taxes because they are under the radar. It is true that most start as day laborers [approx. $8 an hour] but with no taxes that translates into about $10.80 per hour. I see the contracting jobs being taken over because they work for about 20% less to the company but they actually have more take home than the licensed workers who are stopped in every town to check for their tax stamp. Not only do they have to pay for the license, but they have to pay social security and income taxes. If an illegal worker get hurt he can get compensation and social security disability because we have a law that says if his country of origin has a similar compensation plan they are covered by our plan regardless if they pay into it. I had an office next door to the social security office. I would see people from the middle east drive up in expensive cars and get disability benefits. They have a series of doctors from their country who will fake illness documentation so that they get this extra stipend. In Pittsburgh we had a doctor that would sell my employees medical excuses till he got busted. You are right about one thing...it is the money.

[smilingjack]

It seems like you have hi-jacked the thread and changed the subject.

Besides it has gone as far as it can go

Thanks for the opinions

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