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mad max
11-23-2005, 05:28 AM
ok followed skinerds advice did a 4 wire 2 cut trace vid mod used a switch (can`t erase with vmod off) . Installed db25 5 100 ohm resistor jtag works great. Jumper oj1 jtag all good got virgin p80 DFEA in flash edit used moved ird info box edit bk`s and ird. used u7 tsop bin. Erased flash 1and 2 wrote flash 2 with new u7. did virgin eep removed jumper streamed and now know fan works but the rest zilch. Started over erase both flashs wrote u6 to flash 1 u7 to flash 2 nothing. Got a differnt bin same results.From everythingI`ve read can`t see what I`ve done wrong. Now when first did vmod changed d500 to 0000 is this wrong if it is how can I fix it. By the way excellent tutorials and threads here. can`t believe I got this far. Thanks in advance

skinerd
11-23-2005, 05:34 AM
max.....what was the original build?? 510s are build sensitive....in most cases, there are some cross compatible flashes, but not all are.

mad max
11-23-2005, 05:36 AM
Ok am I glad your here the sticker is DFED

skinerd
11-23-2005, 05:43 AM
where did you get the virgin DFEA flash??
If you know it to be good, load flash 2 in BOTH U6 and U7, let it stream without a card in, may take a while but it will update to 304.

mad max
11-23-2005, 05:46 AM
Pulled both virgin files from here, so I m ok on the d500 change to 0000 in vmod

mad max
11-23-2005, 05:48 AM
Also I can`t get any lites on when I stream just fan

mad max
11-23-2005, 06:16 AM
well I erased both flashs wrote my FE dump to flash 2 first when I went to write it to flash 1 said u6 wasn`t mt so wrote it anyway did virgin eep again took out card streamed no power lite at all but have info on tv that`s a first don`t want to screw this up now any advice. Thanks for getting me this far

skinerd
11-23-2005, 06:18 AM
prolly corrupt flash..

PM me an e-mail addy, I have a few P080 DFEA flashes.....

mad max
11-23-2005, 06:34 AM
ok I can get in to menu but won`t let me in to point dish and signal it`s on syst. upgrade no permission will see if it does

skinerd
11-23-2005, 06:38 AM
Won't let you do a switch test?? Give it a few mins, sometimes these will make you wait a couple minutes before going into final step of the 6-1-1 option.

mad max
11-23-2005, 06:47 AM
allright did a switch check I had zeroed out my HD got a quick message HD had a serious error now seems to be all good. Have original card should I put it in now.

skinerd
11-23-2005, 06:55 AM
It may or may not upgrade to 304 with out a card, trt both ways, NOTE it will not upgrade while turned on.......turn it off.......let it sit for a while......

mad max
11-23-2005, 07:02 AM
I will leave it off tonite see what`s up in the morn. I still haven`t seen pwr lite come on even when it`s running weird. If still at p80 in morn what should I do.I want to thank you for all the help ie.threads posted, pics and last hurdle.

skinerd
11-23-2005, 08:03 AM
Just let me know whats' happening, I'll come up with something.....

mad max
11-23-2005, 07:03 PM
ok tried with a card in and out fan runs constantly and no flashing pwr lite could ird be stuck in boot up mode still at p80 maybe I`ll try the build I was sent happy to be this far.

mad max
11-24-2005, 02:08 AM
I installed new tsop file I wa sent just on u7 erased u6 wrote vir. eep this ird refuses to update been all day with card in. When I went to do switch check got the ser. prob with HD could this be the problemn. Also in FE used the moved ird info box like I read. With remote it pwrs up and off gets the info channels but stuck at p80. I had zeroed out HD that`s why went back to p80 Thanks in advance

skinerd
11-24-2005, 02:17 AM
I installed new tsop file I wa sent just on u7 erased u6 wrote vir. eep this ird refuses to update been all day with card in. When I went to do switch check got the ser. prob with HD could this be the problemn. Also in FE used the moved ird info box like I read. With remote it pwrs up and off gets the info channels but stuck at p80. I had zeroed out HD that`s why went back to p80 Thanks in advance

I had the same problem today with a 501, trying to get it updated for AVR-X.....wound up loading a P220 flash, it let me in, allowed switch test, then updated to P304.
You only need p080 ti remarry, then load another later one to stream with....

mad max
11-24-2005, 02:24 AM
well on start up got that serious error with HD so hope it still remarrys.So any suggestions you saying write a newer tsop bin or should I try a sector erase.

bobcat2001
11-25-2005, 10:00 AM
Use the sector erase for an update. U7 (Flash 2) SA61 or SA60, depends of build config, firware version, etc.

I am also not having any luck with a DFJA 510 which I converted to a 508 a long time ago. Got P304 firmware but can't seem to get the fs patches to work with it. The DF series has the moved IRD info, so I am not sure that the offset address for the fs patch is correct for my IRD.

Will post the P304 firmware in the D/L section for ya, but it doesn't have the patch on it.

Will post if I get it correct. Maybe I will have to search for the RSa keyy myself.

Later,

Bobcat

bobcat2001
11-25-2005, 10:01 AM
Use the sector erase for an update. U7 (Flash 2) SA61 or SA60, depends of build config, firware version, etc.

I am also not having any luck with a DFJA 510 which I converted to a 508 a long time ago. Got P304 firmware but can't seem to get the fs patches to work with it. The DF series has the moved IRD info, so I am not sure that the offset address for the fs patch is correct for my IRD.

Will post the P304 firmware in the D/L section for ya, but it doesn't have the patch on it.

Will post if I get it correct. Maybe I will have to search for the RSa keyy myself.

Later,

Bobcat

bobcat2001
11-25-2005, 10:01 AM
Use the sector erase for an update. U7 (Flash 2) SA61 or SA60, depends of build config, firware version, etc.

I am also not having any luck with a DFJA 510 which I converted to a 508 a long time ago. Got P304 firmware but can't seem to get the fs patches to work with it. The DF series has the moved IRD info, so I am not sure that the offset address for the fs patch is correct for my IRD.

Will post the P304 firmware in the D/L section for ya, but it doesn't have the patch on it.

Will post if I get it correct. Maybe I will have to search for the RSa keyy myself.

Later,

Bobcat

skinerd
11-25-2005, 01:43 PM
BOBca, the fs I have sets the rsa keys ,receiver number, boxkeys, checksums and make the flash ready to write w/o further modification.
Make sure the HD is married first with the numbers for the modded flash.

grandpa
11-25-2005, 06:54 PM
Have you tried some of the new files in Public Download for use with Rom 10.

510 runs great with Rom10; I can run AVR-X on my upgraded 510 (DCXX), but I am not too crazy about AVR-X for now.

mad max
11-26-2005, 12:26 AM
ok getting ready to do one final trace cut on this posessed 510 with my chop saw. wrote good p80 and vir eep got video, switch check both sats ok. Than erased flash 1 and 2 wrote good p223 to fash 2 and wrote saved vir. eep. got video now on switch check only half of 1 sat. that changes every switch check. Still no pwr lite on just sits there if you turn it on goes to info channels. When I did v mod I changed 7ffffffac in flash 1 to oooo from d500 should it be done in flash 2 also?? Also build cfg is DEAD in flash edit was DFEA should I change that . If anyone has any ideas I`m open for sugestions. Thanks in advance

grandpa
11-26-2005, 12:41 AM
Than erased flash 1 and 2 wrote good p223 to fash 2 and wrote saved vir. eep. got video now on switch check only half of 1 sat. that changes every switch check.

Why p223? why not p304?

mad max
11-26-2005, 12:52 AM
I would like to but don`t have a good DFED bin and eep thats all I had. Crossed fingers and hoped for best.

woods
11-26-2005, 01:35 AM
080 is a virgin bin is it not? gonna vid mod my 510 that has never seen the stream. backed up my flash 1 and 2 its build dfja ver 080. gonna try to get my rom10 running on it. never had to remarry hd before. Sounds like all i will need to do is edit my 080 flash with the correct info, right it back to flash 1 and 2. 0 out the hard drive and power up. Am i missing anything?

if you can used dfja let me know
woods

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 02:22 AM
to marry the hard drive have the drive removed when writing the virgin flash once flash is written reconnect the zero'd hard drive and power on this will marry it. Also usually only U7 needs to be written and the eeprom. oh the eeprom works better if made from the virgin flash.

skinerd
11-26-2005, 02:33 AM
ok getting ready to do one final trace cut on this posessed 510 with my chop saw. wrote good p80 and vir eep got video, switch check both sats ok. Than erased flash 1 and 2 wrote good p223 to fash 2 and wrote saved vir. eep. got video now on switch check only half of 1 sat. that changes every switch check. Still no pwr lite on just sits there if you turn it on goes to info channels. When I did v mod I changed 7ffffffac in flash 1 to oooo from d500 should it be done in flash 2 also?? Also build cfg is DEAD in flash edit was DFEA should I change that . If anyone has any ideas I`m open for sugestions. Thanks in advance

DEAD is not compatible with DFED, to get the switch test to pass and update to 304, you'll need a DFE(A) or compatible flash.....at P200 or so...

You do not need to change 7FFFFFAC to 0000.......that was for ROM 10 cards, the fix makes the rom 10 into a rom 102.

skinerd
11-26-2005, 02:35 AM
080 is a virgin bin is it not? gonna vid mod my 510 that has never seen the stream. backed up my flash 1 and 2 its build dfja ver 080. gonna try to get my rom10 running on it. never had to remarry hd before. Sounds like all i will need to do is edit my 080 flash with the correct info, right it back to flash 1 and 2. 0 out the hard drive and power up. Am i missing anything?

if you can used dfja let me know
woods

Good luck updating from P080, it doesn't seem to want to update unless you load a later flash.....use 080 to marry with, then flash with a later flash to update to 304, unless you already have a good 304....

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 02:37 AM
I did get a P075 to update but i had to erase sectors sa 52 sa 54 sa60 in flash 2 and restream

skinerd
11-26-2005, 02:55 AM
I am doing a DFEA(D) tonight, I will try a P080 flash to marry and then esase the sectors and see if it updates....post results later....give me an hour or so to get it all done.

woods
11-26-2005, 04:18 AM
hmmm im a little confused. did the 3 wire vidmod as i dont have a r331. getting ready to put my 080 back on just to make sure i can. when that works i will then put my edited p304 as i have already streamed my 510 to that. what is this jumper oj1? do i need to be concerned with that?

btw i streamed mine from 080 to 303 2 weeks ago and then to 304last night

woods

mad max
11-26-2005, 04:19 AM
skinerd I wrote my p80 all good marryed HD and both sats erased 1 and 2 wrote p223 to flash 2 wrote vir. eep I used in p80 ird turns on get info channels but no pwr lite or record lite and get half of 1 sat . shut off and won`t update this is getting to me any more tricks I can try. I`m really concerned haven`t seen green lite since I first started. My build cfg is DFED just trying to get to 304 so I can use my syn card.

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 04:21 AM
the R331 is on the righthand of the board under the power supply do the 4 wire vid mod or the unit will be toast

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 04:24 AM
skinerd I wrote my p80 all good marryed HD and both sats erased 1 and 2 wrote p223 to flash 2 wrote vir. eep I used in p80 ird turns on get info channels but no pwr lite or record lite and get half of 1 sat . shut off and won`t update this is getting to me any more tricks I can try. I`m really concerned haven`t seen green lite since I first started. My build cfg is DFED just trying to get to 304 so I can use my syn card.

Is it possible that the led is burnt out? your getting the unit to give info channels so I would assume the light is possible burnt out

woods
11-26-2005, 04:39 AM
vnot i do not have an r331. as i said i did the 3 wire 1 cut becuase r331 is not there. the spot is there but not the resister.

woods

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 04:54 AM
I didnt see a resistor on the 510 i had but i did have the R331 spot and didnt do the cut need i say i fried the unit $350 wasted in a flick of a switch comfirm with skinerd if it is needed

skinerd
11-26-2005, 05:14 AM
skinerd I wrote my p80 all good marryed HD and both sats erased 1 and 2 wrote p223 to flash 2 wrote vir. eep I used in p80 ird turns on get info channels but no pwr lite or record lite and get half of 1 sat . shut off and won`t update this is getting to me any more tricks I can try. I`m really concerned haven`t seen green lite since I first started. My build cfg is DFED just trying to get to 304 so I can use my syn card.

The 223 you wrote is not compatible with the original build, go back to P080 shut off receiver and let it stream........I just updated a DFJA(D) from 080 to 304, took a while but it went up.

skinerd
11-26-2005, 05:21 AM
vnot i do not have an r331. as i said i did the 3 wire 1 cut becuase r331 is not there. the spot is there but not the resister.

woods

The 3 wire one cut method can and will frya 510......I have done it and have seen it done WAAAAAAY too many times.

woods
11-26-2005, 05:25 AM
well shit. guess i wont power this beast up again until i do that then. does the fact matter that i do not have that resistor? does it need to be added? or just add the wire to the top on r325 and cut the tract by u6? already cut the trace on the bottom of the board and brought the 2 wires to the top. also already picked up the 12v. seems like all i need to do is cutting the last trace and adding that last wire?

ynot-try
11-26-2005, 05:31 AM
just add the wire to the top on r325 and cut the tract by u6

skinerd
11-26-2005, 05:32 AM
I am doing a DFEA(D) tonight, I will try a P080 flash to marry and then esase the sectors and see if it updates....post results later....give me an hour or so to get it all done.

Ok.....I did a DFED board, used a DFJA(D) flash and eeprom P080......worked fine, it upped to P304, took it a while but it went to 304.......used a virgin yellow card to stream with......edited the 304 flash with e 501 fs file, up ona ROM 10 as I type.

woods
11-26-2005, 07:00 AM
skinerd, ya that is how i got my p080 to p303 the 304 it is a virgin rom102. sorry i didnt think to mention that earlier

woods

kwizzler
11-26-2005, 01:11 PM
I have used P080 flash on all of my 510s and have had an easy time getting the upgrade. After I turn on the unit and it comes up with the 'getting satellite' screen, I select MENU and then navigate to the SET FACTORY DEFAULTS selection and tell it OK. Then go to the Aim Dish menu and perform a switch test. After that I cancel out of the Aim Dish function and the system immediately comes up with a message that asks if the signal is good and is the dish locked. I say 'yes' and the system immediately goes out for the upgrade. This is triggered by Setting the Factory Defaults. When I don't do that, it doesn't try to upgrade immediately. You might try this and see if it works for you.

kwizzler
11-26-2005, 01:14 PM
The 3 wire one cut method can and will frya 510......I have done it and have seen it done WAAAAAAY too many times.

Skinerd is sooooo right. NEVER use a 3-wire vidmod. Either use the 4-wire or else replace U7 with a DT version Flash.

woods
11-26-2005, 03:43 PM
well you live you learn. just glad i learned this one before tosting my 510./ powered it up after installing the vidmod just never switched it on. Will add the extra wire and cut the trace later today.

mad max
11-26-2005, 03:49 PM
Don`t believe it all I had to do was hit factory defaults and away she went. Thanks to skinerd and everyone who helped greatly appreciated

woods
11-26-2005, 06:17 PM
oj1 goes to where? ground?

woods
11-27-2005, 04:31 AM
ok i think something went wrong. got my vid mod installed 4 wire. loaded jkeys. went to programmig turned on my vidmod erased flash2 wrote my 080 bin 2 to it. erased flash 1 wrote my 080 bin 1 to it. powered down the unit. powered it back up and now when i jkey it i get error reading from ird(dcu peek). eeek what did i do :)

ok i think my backups might be corrupt. what if i backed up the tsop without the vidmod? would i get all the needed info? i used wall and deleted part of flash 1. this allowed me to jkeys back in. when i used flash edit to look at my tsop backups the checksum was wrong and the ird and boxkeys are all fffff's :)

can i use a virgin dfja build on my djfd? very mad that my backups are corrupt :( now i dont know what my boxkeys were and am going to have to remarry the hd. guess its a good learning situation. only found a u7 dfja not a u6 i assume i load that into both. not sure what a virgin eep is though so some help on that is appreciated. glad my rom10 hasnt come yet or i would be mad :) this makes things more fun. hopefully i dont loop my next rom10 or they get the avr-x running

woods

woods

skinerd
11-27-2005, 05:25 AM
A little reading and you would know that a DFJA tsop will normally have a DFJD eeprom and will show DFJD in the system info screen.......
You never need load flash 1 it takes care of itself, just erase it....
You should be able to flash w/o vid mod, will error out but no problem as last sector needs no changes.
The OJ1 jumper will help you, it is your good friend.

woods
11-27-2005, 05:45 AM
skinerd. have read tons. sorry for the post but the whole eeprom had me a bit confused. just wanted to be sure i could do that before proceeding.

thanks for the response. have the vidmod with the oj1

woods

skinerd
11-27-2005, 06:43 AM
skinerd. have read tons. sorry for the post but the whole eeprom had me a bit confused. just wanted to be sure i could do that before proceeding.

thanks for the response. have the vidmod with the oj1

woods

If you get stuck, I can send you a DJFA(D) tsop at P304 ready modded for rom102torom10.

woods
11-28-2005, 12:22 AM
ok it turns out that my u7 bin was not bad. erased u6 and u7 wrote my backup of my u7. wrote virgin eep. unit powers up all good execpt it wont update now. originally it updated with this exact build of 080 because this was a virgin box before i let it update to 303 then 304 but of course, i forgot to backup 304 before erasing u6 and u7 soooo. ill do a sector erase and see if it updates if not ill find a build for dfjd at 304.

thanks for the direction skinard.

woods

ynot-try
11-28-2005, 12:26 AM
try doing a factory reset and turning off some say it will go right into update

bobcat2001
11-28-2005, 03:58 PM
Skinerd,

Hate to be a pain, but could you mod the DFJA for use with the Atmega file? I can't seem to find a good Hex editor for this TSOP. Flashedit patches don't seem to work and give the checksum error (even on the unmodified U7 TSOP). When I open them up in Hackman, all I get is FFFFFFFF's and no data. All of my other TSOP's open up fine, just not these ones.

Thanks Again,

Bobcat

woods
11-28-2005, 04:52 PM
it does just that goes to update. but then just sits on acquiring signal. never does update. let it sit all night and woke up to it still acquiring signal.

woods

woods
11-29-2005, 02:16 AM
Skinard. thanks for the p304 file. edited the info and have my box back up with my unsubbed rom102. now as soon as my replacement rom10 gets here ill get that working and all will be good.

woods

skinerd
11-29-2005, 03:09 AM
Skinerd,
Hate to be a pain, but could you mod the DFJA for use with the Atmega file? I can't seem to find a good Hex editor for this TSOP. Flashedit patches don't seem to work and give the checksum error (even on the unmodified U7 TSOP). When I open them up in Hackman, all I get is FFFFFFFF's and no data. All of my other TSOP's open up fine, just not these ones.
Thanks Again,
Bobcat

I sent you a working 510 DFJA atmega ready flash.......

bobcat2001
12-01-2005, 05:35 PM
Back up and running last night. The file works great.

Thanks a bunch, man.

Bobcat

crowbar
12-02-2005, 07:51 AM
I have a 510 that was modded to a 508 for n1. I've used a virgin p080 file then erased sector and I go to p304 within 10 minutes. I have a DJFD(A) build. I want to use it with an atmega. I've tried everything. I get the dvr to work but all I get is preview channels only. Strange thing is I get sound but no picture on the first 2 ppv channels and the interactive channel(100) works perfectly. Were am I going wrong. I use the drop down on jkeys to 508 and I always use moved ird when entering info. Vidmod and oj1 due to g chip. Do you think you can also send me the modded DFJA u7 flash. I'll just erase 1st tsop and put a virgin eeprom.

Need your help, please.

Crowbar.

woods
12-05-2005, 12:20 AM
anyone have the fs patch for the 510? cant find it in the files section. ill patch my own bin.

Here is another insteresting tidbit. if you read back i loaded a p080 and the damm thing never would stream up to p304. So skinered sent me a good p304. Well today im working on getting my 510 to work with the rom10 to 102 patch. erased u6 and u7 loaded new u7 with proper boxkeys etc and zeroed out my hd also loaded virgin eep. Powered up the unit did a check switch, reloaded factory defaults and walked away. came back like 20 minutes later and the damm thing was updating. Now the only thing that i did different was to 0 out the hard drive. i wonder if some update info is stored on the hd and if you are at p304 and you revert back to p080 there is a flag on the hard drive so it never streams up to the latest ver. just a thought. Im sure ill be doing it again at some point and maybe ill be able to verify this

woods

ynot-try
12-05-2005, 06:38 AM
add this to the flashedit beta file amke sure it have a .fs file name



[501 P3.04 (U7) - Atmega N2 Only!]
prepare_reverse_crc(0x262c00)
set(0x25c140, 0xD9E69563C7EC728F647B7C7F58882096)
set(0x25c150, 0x9AA9327D02CBF83E848BC2250092DDB2)
set(0X25c160, 0x3D1C63711405245A844EB491CF8F1EEC)
set(0x25c170, 0xD437AE307453A0F24F4D49C92D07FA91)
set(0x25c180, 0x00000000000000000000000000000000)
set(0x25c190, 0x00000000000000000000000000000000)
set(0x25c1a0, 0x00000000000000000000000000000000)
set(0x25c1b0, 0x00000000000000000000000000000000)
set(0x3fffc0, 0x02AB476152542BD807DCEC6F23E9)
commit_reverse_crc()

skinerd
12-05-2005, 07:33 AM
oj1 goes to where? ground?

Together, there are 2 pads, short them together...