Is BEV working ?

[Eagle19]

Has anyone got BEV working on there DVB-S card yet ?

I tried placing Softcam file in MT directory
The KrasnalTM-BEV.dll in the mdplugins directory.
Nothing for BEV when I switch back to Dish it works.

If someone can give me a heads-up on which files go where I would appreciate it!

Thanks :rolleyes:

[smilingjack]

It works

[Eagle19]

It works

Are both BEV Public Keys and IDEA key have to be up to date on the Soft cam Reg file?. And does the Krasnal TM-BEV.dll belong in the MDPlugins dir?
and does the s2ecm.dll have to be replaced or removed?

How dop you have your setup in My Theatre.

Thanks:rolleyes:

[tobyguy]

Has anyone got BEV working on there DVB-S card yet ?

I tried placing Softcam file in MT directory
The KrasnalTM-BEV.dll in the mdplugins directory.
Nothing for BEV when I switch back to Dish it works.

If someone can give me a heads-up on which files go where I would appreciate it!

Thanks :rolleyes:

I believe the softscam file should be in the plugins directory.

However, it's not working for me either.

It's funny but a lot of users are posting files they claim are working, yet many of the files are so old they can't work! Or they have keys in there that have already changed (and yet they've posted them long after the keys have changed, claiming they're working).

It would be nice if someone who actually has it working could explain what needs to be done. It's a little confusing to say the least, for example the krasnal file is named differently depending on who uploaded the file.

Some people don't even mention the krasnal file, others just claim they need the keys only (hard to believe), while others have claimed a bevfix.dll file!

Which combination is it???

Tobyguy

[Eagle19]

I believe the softscam file should be in the plugins directory.

However, it's not working for me either.

It's funny but a lot of users are posting files they claim are working, yet many of the files are so old they can't work! Or they have keys in there that have already changed (and yet they've posted them long after the keys have changed, claiming they're working).

It would be nice if someone who actually has it working could explain what needs to be done. It's a little confusing to say the least, for example the krasnal file is named differently depending on who uploaded the file.

Some people don't even mention the krasnal file, others just claim they need the keys only (hard to believe), while others have claimed a bevfix.dll file!

Which combination is it???

Tobyguy

Thanks for getting back to me. I thought I was loosing it. Like I said before I could get DN. But limited to Sat 61, because when I position my dish to try to hit 110, trees are in my way. The best I can do with a good signal is 91. But when I switched to Bev 91 all I get is the tele-title stating whats playing at the moment. I also tried Softcam editor but it would not let me edit the N2 keys in the Softcam file. It states that it is limited to 16 charators. Yes before you ask it was the N2 key I was traying to edit, I was able to edit the Public keys which are 16 charators. So here I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Hopefully someone will respond soon with an answer.

Thanks for listening.

[tobyguy]

Thanks for getting back to me. I thought I was loosing it. Like I said before I could get DN. But limited to Sat 61, because when I position my dish to try to hit 110, trees are in my way. The best I can do with a good signal is 91. But when I switched to Bev 91 all I get is the tele-title stating whats playing at the moment. I also tried Softcam editor but it would not let me edit the N2 keys in the Softcam file. It states that it is limited to 16 charators. Yes before you ask it was the N2 key I was traying to edit, I was able to edit the Public keys which are 16 charators. So here I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Hopefully someone will respond soon with an answer.

Thanks for listening.

Make sure you can get those green channels working near the bottom of the channel list on 91. I can play those channels, so I know it's something to do with keys/or the hack. I'm watching DN w/ an ATMEGA, so I haven't bothered trying to go back to DN on DVB. I just wanted to see BEV working on DVB! The girlfiend isn't a DN fan, wants to watch canadian programming.

Let's hope someone who actually knows what to do comes along and replies to this thread!

Tobyguy

[zag1958]

The problem is that most people want to be spoon fed and don't put much effort in having a basic understanding of what each tool does and how it does it. Now I am far from an expert, I don't code and have very limited knowledge when it comes to testing. One thing that I do pride myself in is the ability to read and research the material I am interested in. Now that I have got that off my chest I'll try to explain as best I can the little bit that I have learned.

For DVB there are currently two tools to get TV going. Both of these basically do the same thing so ONLY ONE is needed at a time (except if you want both dish and bev at the same time, see below as to why).

1. S2EMU along with softcam.key file is the preferred method because it is easier to make key changes when needed (just edit the text file softcam.key using notepad). Place both files in the plugins folder and you are done. Currently S2EMU does NOT work for BEV, it needs to be updated before it can be used for BEV so if you want BEV you must use the method below.

2. Krasnal is a dll that has both the IDEA and RSA keys imbedded in it, therefore when a key changes it must be changed inside the dll itself using a hex editor. As you can see this is a bit more difficult. To use this file you must use a "plugin manager" (for the lack of a better title) called mdwrapper. You place mdwrapper.dll in the plugins folder and then you create another folder called mdplugins in the root directory of MT (or whatever program you are using) and place krasnal.dll in it.

To add to the confusion that seems to going around, krasnal can only hold one key therefore you either get BEV or Dish but NOT both at the same time. So if you want both BEV and Dish you must use both Krasnal (for BEV) and S2emu for Dish. Since we are forced to use a "plugin manager" (krasnall.dll requires it, s2emu does not but it does work with it) might as well let it also manage s2emu so place s2emu in the mdplugins folder along with krasnal.dll, mdwrapper will manage both of them.

Now make sure you use the correct krasnal because the day after the BEV keys were released BEV changed the IDEA key so the original released krasnal no longer works. You either get the updated version or hex edit it yourself and place the new keys in it.

To do this just go to hex address 26968 (first byte of idea key) and write the 16 bytes and save.

This is a very basic overview of each tool, as they work today, things change so if you don't want to be left out in the cold, pay attention and keep up with what's going on, it is not difficult but it does require a bit of time and a bit of effort.

[tobyguy]

The problem is that most people want to be spoon fed and don't put much effort in having a basic understanding of what each tool does and how it does it. Now I am far from an expert, I don't code and have very limited knowledge when it comes to testing. One thing that I do pride myself in is the ability to read and research the material I am interested in. Now that I have got that off my chest I'll try to explain as best I can the little bit that I have learned.

For DVB there are currently two tools to get TV going. Both of these basically do the same thing so ONLY ONE is needed at a time (except if you want both dish and bev at the same time, see below as to why).

1. S2EMU along with softcam.key file is the preferred method because it is easier to make key changes when needed (just edit the text file softcam.key using notepad). Place both files in the plugins folder and you are done. Currently S2EMU does NOT work for BEV, it needs to be updated before it can be used for BEV so if you want BEV you must use the method below.

2. Krasnal is a dll that has both the IDEA and RSA keys imbedded in it, therefore when a key changes it must be changed inside the dll itself using a hex editor. As you can see this is a bit more difficult. To use this file you must use a "plugin manager" (for the lack of a better title) called mdwrapper. You place mdwrapper.dll in the plugins folder and then you create another folder called mdplugins in the root directory of MT (or whatever program you are using) and place krasnal.dll in it.

To add to the confusion that seems to going around, krasnal can only hold one key therefore you either get BEV or Dish but NOT both at the same time. So if you want both BEV and Dish you must use both Krasnal (for BEV) and S2emu for Dish. Since we are forced to use a "plugin manager" (krasnall.dll requires it, s2emu does not but it does work with it) might as well let it also manage s2emu so place s2emu in the mdplugins folder along with krasnal.dll, mdwrapper will manage both of them.

Now make sure you use the correct krasnal because the day after the BEV keys were released BEV changed the IDEA key so the original released krasnal no longer works. You either get the updated version or hex edit it yourself and place the new keys in it.

To do this just go to hex address 26968 (first byte of idea key) and write the 16 bytes and save.

This is a very basic overview of each tool, as they work today, things change so if you don't want to be left out in the cold, pay attention and keep up with what's going on, it is not difficult but it does require a bit of time and a bit of effort.

Hi Zag1958,

thanks for the response.

Both of us have been working on DN for some time (with DVB). It's just that there hasn't been a lot of talk about what needs to be done for BEV on DVB (at least not on the forums I've been on).

I believe BEV isn't working for me because I actually removed the mdwrapper.dll file some time ago because it was causing a bit of freezing on some channels (for DN) - and it didn't appear I needed it until now. I'll give it a shot (adding the mdwrapper.dll file) and see if it does the trick!

I appreciate your help!

thanks,

Tobyguy

[tobyguy]

2. Krasnal is a dll that has both the IDEA and RSA keys imbedded in it, therefore when a key changes it must be changed inside the dll itself using a hex editor. As you can see this is a bit more difficult. To use this file you must use a "plugin manager" (for the lack of a better title) called mdwrapper. You place mdwrapper.dll in the plugins folder and then you create another folder called mdplugins in the root directory of MT (or whatever program you are using) and place krasnal.dll in it.

Hi Zag1958,

I've got it working now. It was because I had removed mdwrapper.dll. As soon as I re-added it, I was up!

thanks,

Tobyguy

[Eagle19]

Thank you Zag your post was right on the money. As soon as I placed MDWrapper in the plugins the vedio worked.
Your explination and description what the files do and how they work was very clear and understandable. Good job.

I beleave the IDEA Key just changed for BEV. Only the info channel is working right now. Hopefully the new key will be posted soon so I can edit the Krasnal file.

Thanks again!

:)

[CaptainHowdy]

matter of choice I guess but why don't you just get new version of s2emu 1.19 instead of krasnal? It's alot easier to edit a softcam key than it is a dll...well not really...lol both are simple but I never liked krasnal :)

[Eagle19]

matter of choice I guess but why don't you just get new version of s2emu 1.19 instead of krasnal? It's alot easier to edit a softcam key than it is a dll...well not really...lol both are simple but I never liked krasnal :)

I changed Softcam using the new key then I placed the in the MDPlugins and it did not work. So I tried Krasnal now and that does'nt work ether.

I'M going to keep playing with it. If I find something I'LL let you know. If you have idea let me know.

later

[Eagle19]

matter of choice I guess but why don't you just get new version of s2emu 1.19 instead of krasnal? It's alot easier to edit a softcam key than it is a dll...well not really...lol both are simple but I never liked krasnal :)

Hi Capt.

I put in the S2emu 1.19 and the edited softcam in both MDplugins and plugins folder. Then I edited the krasnal file with the new posted key for BEV nothing working. I edited the softcam using note pad and the Krasnal using Hex Workshop, starting at 00026928. I also tried placing the new key # in both of the BEVs IDEA Key-00 and IDEA Key-10. So I am at a lost right now.

Am suspecting that the key is not right if what I've done is.