Trace threatening calls ?

[Cimba]

Anyone know of a way to trace threatening phone calls without using the phone company ? Up here callers are allowed to blockout their name & number, the only way to trace them is to dial #57 immediately after the call. It may or may not succeed and you are charged $5.00, you must register a complaint with the police and you do not get access to who the caller is unless charges result.
Typical Canadian laws protecting the offender but not the victims, I was advised by the police to wait for some more calls, write down their time & content, and to use the above feature. If it was traceable and investigated and decided that a threat truly existed then action could be taken. Meanwhile I'm waiting to see if the caller follows through on his threat to come over and kick the shit out of me, maybe kill me & bomb my house. And of course I cannot have a firearm in my house unless it's trigger locked, stored in a locked cabinet, and the ammo locked in a separate location; OK, that's fair. :confused:
Thanx in advance.

[lefty]

Anyone know of a way to trace threatening phone calls without using the phone company ?

I don't have caller id or call blocking, but in the lower 48, those are just some of our options.

As for the authorities - they are only interested in having the option to spy on whoever they want whenever they want. They don't want to be bothered with citizens problems.

As for the phone companies, they only want to add pay for features to your bill.
They don't want be bothered with customers problems.

Service? We pay for it.....but try to get action from those we pay it to.

Sorry, but in today's world, you can't even hand a criminal to a lawman, even if you catch them in the act.

[Stocko]

"I'm sorry I/we can't come to the phone right now but you must leave a message. I/we are receiving annoyance calls and the phone company has a trap on this line. If you do not leave a message I/we will assume that you are the annoyance caller and this call will be traced."
hxxp://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs3-hrs2.htm
Stocko :cool:

[skinerd]

I have worked with the phone company on a harassment issue in the past, my ex, wife at that time, was receiveing unwanted calls. The phone company put a log on my line, logged every call. All she had to do was write down the time of the call, and they compare to the log. But this was the in USA, surely up north they will do the same or similiar. Also I purchased a device to record calls, they sent a police detective to my work to pick up the tapes when we had a few recorded. Calls stopped, I don't know what happened to the guy making them.

In the US, and surely in Canada, making threatening or harassing calls is a crime, if you complain, they MUST investigate.

[JT]

So why on earth would you be receiving threatening calls Cimba? I couldn't imagine why anyone would want to harass you.

[Cimba]

Haven't got a clue, speaker was very bizzarre & included what sounded like recorded clips from movies/tv. Son & daughter who live in their own place also got weird calls, nothing since last night. My call came maybe 10 minutes after 2 calls to their place, name showed on their phone but showed Private number on mine; cops said no proof the threatening call I got was the same person !!?? True but DUH !

[smilingjack]

Rat shack sells the recorder devices skinard mentioned, it hooks to the phone line and to a cassette recorder's remote jack and turns it on when ever the phone is lifted.

Every phone company knows every call that is made or received on every number.
including where it came from and where it went to, that is automatic with every phone, even pay phones.

It may be kids, that is cmmon here in the states, nothing else to do they don't even know who they are calling

Kinda like we used to call the drugstore and asked if they had Prince Albert (tobaco) in a can.......then told them to let him out he can't breathe.....

[skinerd]

Every phone company knows every call that is made or received on every number.
including where it came from and where it went to, that is automatic with every phone, even pay phones.



Not exactly true, on non metered lines they do not log every call, it would be practically(numerically) impossibe.
They can however log calls on targeted lines on demand.

[fubr]

there are also some programs like modem spy that will record onto your hard drive every time you receive or make a call. Me and a bud hooked one up one time to catch some neighbors making calls to the local crank head trying to score some dope.
Then we would sit back and see what kind of lies they would tell about why they needed to borrow phone.
We dint care why but they always wanted to tell us some kind of off the wall story.
PS. I think crank heads are some of the stupidest people with the things they say

[smilingjack]

Don't let anyone kid you skinard, If they want to know who called or who you called they can look it up in the data base.
It is in a file called the "lugs" for that number, one of the 'wonders' of the computerized phone age.

It has the numbers, in and out, time and duration of call, nothing else.
Cops use them all the time and there is no need for a warrant even.
Just a 'official' request to a supervisor.

[skinerd]

Don't let anyone kid you skinard, If they want to know who called or who you called they can look it up in the data base.
It is in a file called the "lugs" for that number, one of the 'wonders' of the computerized phone age.
It has the numbers, in and out, time and duration of call, nothing else.
Cops use them all the time and there is no need for a warrant even.
Just a 'official' request to a supervisor.

I'll ask a detective I know,(he's a tester too!!), he has almost 20 years on the force and works SID,(specalized investigations dept.) He will know for sure what can or can't be done, in the US at least.
I can tell you for certain, it's amazing the info these guys can get if needed.


The incident we had was 10 years or so ago, so I'm sure things are more sophisticated now.

[smilingjack]

Since they went from mechanical switching to electronic switching everything is on the dam computer

[fubr]

I had a freind in the corp that was doing a girl from the phone company for the sole reason that she could find out shit about anybody if they had a address or a phone or if there neighbor had one

[keltic]

Anyone know of a way to trace threatening phone calls without using the phone company ? Up here callers are allowed to blockout their name & number, the only way to trace them is to dial #57 immediately after the call. It may or may not succeed and you are charged $5.00, you must register a complaint with the police and you do not get access to who the caller is unless charges result.
Typical Canadian laws protecting the offender but not the victims, I was advised by the police to wait for some more calls, write down their time & content, and to use the above feature. If it was traceable and investigated and decided that a threat truly existed then action could be taken. Meanwhile I'm waiting to see if the caller follows through on his threat to come over and kick the shit out of me, maybe kill me & bomb my house. And of course I cannot have a firearm in my house unless it's trigger locked, stored in a locked cabinet, and the ammo locked in a separate location; OK, that's fair. :confused:
Thanx in advance.


If you’re even remotely worried or afraid that the person will carry out the threat, say to hell with the law and get you some protection. Better to have it and never use it then it is to be killed because the law was stupid.

Cimba, remember this if you have to fire to protect yourself, Shoot to Kill, dead Men cant Sue! Good luck.

[smilingjack]

A-MEN keltic

Always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

[woods]

well said smilingjack.

woods