done with avr-x

[niknare]

I have had it . I want to try something else. Can someone point me to a how to guide, Need to know what cards are programabel, how to unlock them of do you have to send them to a dealer. I used to program in the Nagra 1 days so I have some knoledge. thanks

[Bow]

Try another site....you have to pay for downloads here.

[Rax]

Try another site....you have to pay for downloads here.

you do? When did this happen?:eek:

[niknare]

I dont mind paying I just dont know how to do that either , wherre do you sign up?

[Bow]

Try the public downloads .......205 members trying to download .....if you are not a vip come back at 1am.

[Rax]

You need an unlocker, rom 10, 101, or 102, ISO programmer and some soft ware to run (the software is free ware rite now).... "Nagra edit beta version, newd ?? (depending on what card ya wanna unlock), and a proggy from penga (depends on what card you have), a jtag (you always need one of them), and I belive one more proggy to edit your tstop (cant think of the name rite now lol)

[mruk69]

And for the money you will spend, you might be better of buying an FTA.
I wish I did. My avr-x was ordered in the First week it came out took six weeks to arrive, had to send it back in a week and have not yet received it. I could have bought a decent FTA for the same price and watching PPV's and porn. All this talk about FTA's not lasting is BS, I know people who have had them for over 2 years and still watching. Obviously they wern't when N1 was killed but when a hack came out for N2 they were up again. Any testing method that requires TSOP modding is going to come to an end very soon. Charlie is releasing Firmware updates to counter that as I type. Don't belive me ask around.

[Rax]

And for the money you will spend, you might be better of buying an FTA.
I wish I did. My avr-x was ordered in the First week it came out took six weeks to arrive, had to send it back in a week and have not yet received it. I could have bought a decent FTA for the same price and watching PPV's and porn. All this talk about FTA's not lasting is BS, I know people who have had them for over 2 years and still watching. Obviously they wern't when N1 was killed but when a hack came out for N2 they were up again. Any testing method that requires TSOP modding is going to come to an end very soon. Charlie is releasing Firmware updates to counter that as I type. Don't belive me ask around.

Yeah but you need those different LNB's and possibly another dish:eek:

[norton]

Yeah but you need those different LNB's and possibly another dish:eek:

coolsat 4000 works with both legacy and dishpro lnb's with the newer firmware, i'm sure the 5000 is the same way...plus you can get bev on 1 receiver. i have one and love it.....also have rom10 going and been playing with 102's but dont want to risk looping it right now. just got a 101 from a buddy that i am trying to unlock

[tobyguy]

I got my CoolSat 5000 platinum about 2 weeks ago.

I can tell you that there's NO GOING BACK after you've got one of these.

I paid $215 CDN, they sell for 160-170$ US on EBAY.

This thing is EASY to program. I have Legacy LNB's with a DISH500 and I'm watching BEV and DISH on the same receiver! This thing supports Diseqc and SW 21's.

Autoroll has been working for weeks now on both BEV and DISH.

This thing is easy to program (through a serial cable). No cards, nothing. You program the box directly. All you have to do is copy over a .BIN file, that's it!

Far easier than AVR-X, Magic card, ATMGEA, Plastic, etc.

The only drawback to this box is that it doesn't support HDTV.

Then again the only hackable box out there that does is the 6000. And I have my 6000 for that.

I can't wait until one of these comes out that supports HDTV. I'll be buying it right away.

Don't even give it a second thought, you won't regret it. Go on fleabay and buy one (they are legal when purchased since they are FTA).

Tobyguy

[niknare]

I am running a coolsat pro 4000, I very rarely have to do anythinbg to keep it gooing, I want to run plastice so that I can rrecord on my 501,

[tobyguy]

I am running a coolsat pro 4000, I very rarely have to do anythinbg to keep it gooing, I want to run plastice so that I can rrecord on my 501,

niknare,

Do you have a good guide/forum/website for plastic?

I want to use plastic for my 6000. I'm using an ATMEGA right now for DISH and DISH HDTV absolutely sucks the big one. There isn't a current real fix for BEV HDTV other than plastic (I hear it supports auto-roll).

I want to get it working on BEV (and I refuse to contribute to the magician after the Magic Card fiasco - there's no auto-roll either on AVR-X). BEV has 40+ HDTV channels (even includes recent PPV channels - unlike DISH).

I have a few BEV cards laying around (blue/white ones), but not too sure where to start.

Any idea which IOS programmer/unlocker to get? I've seen some combo ones on ebay....

thanks,

Tobyguy

[txrider]

Got to agree with the others here - the AVR-X is fast loosing it's following if the Magician does not quickly get his act together. Way to many problems and instability with the AVR-X solution.

I tried the AVR-X card with my 6000U for a while - and although it works (partically), I have a much more stable 6000 system when running it under a ROM102 to ROM10 environment for HDTV testing.

I also have a Coolsat 4000 and 5000 - both of which are fabulous for eveything but HDTV. The 5000 is by far the premier FTA box to buy right now - very fast - easy to set up - etc.

Coolsat reports they plan on having PVR and HDTV boxes out later this spring - so the AVR-X card (and others) may finally meet their match if Coolsat comes through. And since the FTA receivers do not rely on a Dish TSOP - things could get very interesting in the near future.

[Darkbob]

hehe... I think Magician is trying to prevent cloning of his card - by making it so crappy nobody would bother cloning it!

But seriously folks...

Does anyone know of a good FTA that has PVR functions and a guide? Not even sure if such a thing exists but it would be nice.

--DB

[txrider]

hehe... I think Magician is trying to prevent cloning of his card - by making it so crappy nobody would bother cloning it!

But seriously folks...

Does anyone know of a good FTA that has PVR functions and a guide? Not even sure if such a thing exists but it would be nice.

--DB
I am not aware of any PVR FTA's as of yet. But, with the big demand for both PVR and HDTV, I suspect it won't be long before someone comes out with one or both. Actually, I have an ADS USB capture device hooked up to my Coolsat 5000 and program it to caqpture a recording. The only hassle is you have to have the Coolsat already tuned in to the channel you want to record and you can only program one show in at a time. But, I end up with a nice DVD compliant video to burn.

One thing I really enjoy about the FTA products is their ability to receive both the Dish and Bev programming on the same box as long as you have enough satellite dishes pointed to the proper satellites. There is some great programming on Bev which I enjoy besides the standard Dish selections and you don't have to f**k around trying to get some bizarre tier setup to work properly! Basically, with 3 dishes, you can get 119, 110, 61.5 and Nimiq 1 all on the same receiver. Like 1000+ channels to choose from with total auto-key and auto-transponder rolling? Totally plug & play. Go with a Coolsat 5000 Pro now, or wait until one of the new boxes come out later in the year.

[karlt]

Got my Coolsat 5000 yesterday. Set it up in about a half hour. Works Great!!!
Have an avr-x card and receiver (with header installed) stored away and will probably never use it.

[tobyguy]

Got to agree with the others here - the AVR-X is fast loosing it's following if the Magician does not quickly get his act together. Way to many problems and instability with the AVR-X solution.

I tried the AVR-X card with my 6000U for a while - and although it works (partically), I have a much more stable 6000 system when running it under a ROM102 to ROM10 environment for HDTV testing.

I also have a Coolsat 4000 and 5000 - both of which are fabulous for eveything but HDTV. The 5000 is by far the premier FTA box to buy right now - very fast - easy to set up - etc.

Coolsat reports they plan on having PVR and HDTV boxes out later this spring - so the AVR-X card (and others) may finally meet their match if Coolsat comes through. And since the FTA receivers do not rely on a Dish TSOP - things could get very interesting in the near future.

txrider,

I'm currently using my 6000 for DISH w/ an ATMEGA.

HDTV sucks royally on DISH.

However, the one thing I haven't tried programming/working with yet is plastic.

What does one need to get autoroll working with BEV? I really only want to use my 6000 receiver with BEV HDTV.

I have a few blue/white BEV cards around, I'm not to sure which ROM's they are (I got them with some 3100 receivers I bought a while back - they should be brand new, never streamed). Any idea how to find out if I can use them?

I haven't found any newbee sites/documentation around for plastic....

I've only seen a bit of stuff on hashhu.com, but it's a bit over my head for plastic....

Tobyguy

[txrider]

txrider,

I'm currently using my 6000 for DISH w/ an ATMEGA.

HDTV sucks royally on DISH.

However, the one thing I haven't tried programming/working with yet is plastic.

What does one need to get autoroll working with BEV? I really only want to use my 6000 receiver with BEV HDTV.

I have a few blue/white BEV cards around, I'm not to sure which ROM's they are (I got them with some 3100 receivers I bought a while back - they should be brand new, never streamed). Any idea how to find out if I can use them?

I haven't found any newbee sites/documentation around for plastic....

I've only seen a bit of stuff on hashhu.com, but it's a bit over my head for plastic....

Tobyguy

Well, I have not tried to use my 6000U to work with BEV since that would require a different set of TSOPS I believe. I am simply running my 6000 in HDTV mode for Dish channels. My unit has the CNDA TSOPS loaded with a good (free) ROM102 to ROM10 bin file. I simply program my ROM10 card with a regular ISO programmer - first by placing my tiers in the BIN file, along with my local tier, ZIP code and Time Zone. Write to the card, insert, and watch HD channelds flawlessly. If the keys change, I have a small patch file built to put the new keys in the bin. Same goes for expiring tiers - quite easy to do.

Basically, there are several files out there which will turn a regular ROM10 card into a psuedo ROM102 card. Some are junk. I had to try a bunch before I found a relibable one to use on a permanent basis. Steps:
1. Flash your IRD with the proper TSOP files which are available from many forums. I used the CNDA since it most closely matched my receiver.
2. Edit your tier data in the bin file, along with your Zip code, time zone, and locals tier if desired.
3. Watch TV.
4. If keys change, reprogram your card.

Most cards allow 6 tiers - I have mine set up for all Dish channels (including AT180, AT120, AT60, PPV, Movies, Porn, and Dish and Voom HD channels). Works like a charm.

Hardest part if flashing your TSOP and setting up your tiers. If you decide to try the ROM102 to ROM10 solution, once you get your receiver flashed, PM me and I will send you a copy of my BIN which should work for you - along with instructions on how to set your local tier, etc.

[mili]

Tobyguy you think you advertised FTA shit enough here?
Make sure you stop the practise please.

mili

[Darkbob]

Mili... you know you have my respect. You run a tight ship and what you say is the law of the land.

That being said, you must see that the AVR-X just isn't cutting it. Lots of cranky customers.

Remember... find a need and fill it! Well there's a need for something more solid than the AVR-X. It's a stop-gap. It restarted testing and it gave us hope. But it's been at least 4 months now and it's not really all that much closer to a workable solution than on the first day it was released. It's flakey as hell.

The need is there - not hard to find it. So fill it! Time to start selling FTA's.

Or get Magician to fix the AVR.

Or both.

With respect...

--DB

[mad max]

Have to agree with milli every time I read this guys posts on his FTA I think it`s buttering his toast and wipes his ass. Geez think I`ll throw my worthless 510`s away and rush right out and buy one.

[alkasecond]

My 2c, if you have an older receiver like 2700/2800 series, you cant go wrong with
a newer FTA box based on conexant chip, like viewsat or even captive works.
These boxes are better in every way, speed, features etc.
On the other hand if your testing box is 301 series or anything newer,
You dont went to go FTA ruote. Is just not worth it.
Trust me , I've had it all.
No FTA will beat a good 301, not even $300 dreambox.
Robustness is a key.

[Bandit5906]

Mili... you know you have my respect. You run a tight ship and what you say is the law of the land.

That being said, you must see that the AVR-X just isn't cutting it. Lots of cranky customers.

Remember... find a need and fill it! Well there's a need for something more solid than the AVR-X. It's a stop-gap. It restarted testing and it gave us hope. But it's been at least 4 months now and it's not really all that much closer to a workable solution than on the first day it was released. It's flakey as hell.

The need is there - not hard to find it. So fill it! Time to start selling FTA's.

Or get Magician to fix the AVR.

Or both.

With respect...

--DB

All my problems with the AVR-X were cured when I used a new battery and of course change the tiers for my 301.010. The first time I programmed the progress bar worked normally, but the next time it did not. I assumed (incorrectly) that when the pop-up "programming complete" message came up that it was good to go.

Not so fast: little problems started! Channels dropping off (but still showing good on the guide), more channels, then 019 nag. I checked the battery and it was at 7.0 volts and the next time I programmed it the battery dropped to 6.0 volts.

New battery: progress bar worked in default position, no more 019, channels back, priceless, IMHO!

[ReneB64]

I used MC1 & atmega; when Nag2 came out i decided to wait on avr-x; glad i did. Instead I bought a Viewsat Platinum, I havent had any problems since! autorolls new updates all the time, works with legacy lnb and now their down to about $134 on fleabay. I do have a 501 with atmega; i love it, only drawback is having to update the keys. Hopefully this will continue to work for a while.......Wish Mili sold FTA.

[426SSDA67]

My BIG Question IS:If EVERYBODY is so darn happy and satisfied with their FTA's Why the Hell are they on here Looking Through and POSTING in the AVR-X Section that they DON"T have or WANT?????!!!!
Just a Stupid Obsevance I have I guess.

[Darkbob]

Hey THAT was fast. Yesterday I said Mili should sell FTA and today he's selling it!

Now how about part 2 of that message... getting Magician to fix his craptastic code???

But nice move on the FTA stuff Mili!

--DB

[tobyguy]

My BIG Question IS:If EVERYBODY is so darn happy and satisfied with their FTA's Why the Hell are they on here Looking Through and POSTING in the AVR-X Section that they DON"T have or WANT?????!!!!
Just a Stupid Obsevance I have I guess.

Why? Because some of us are interested in the AVR-X. For testers that want to use their 6000 with BEV for example, there isn't much of a choice.

I've considered getting an AVR-X (actually I wish it worked well - I'd probably get one). But not with the current situation/state of the AVR-X.

I'm following the threads because I'm waiting to see if it ever gets stable and supports autoroll. If it does, I may get one....

Most testers are better off with an FTA since they don't care about HDTV/don't require it.

I thought I'd share my experience with other users - that there are other options.

Now that milli is selling FTA receivers, I hope people start purchasing them from him - most users here require a bit of extra assistance! Milli provides that! So why not!

He does run a tight ship and he's got a lot of testers support. I know I don't have any issues with him or anyone else here - I just thought I'd let others know there are other options, that's all!

Tobyguy

[mruk69]

Tobyguy you think you advertised FTA shit enough here?
Make sure you stop the practise please.

mili

Now what Mili, you are selling them also.:D