Guide Download stopping at 95%

[blkstangca]

When i go to guide it tries to download the new guide but it locks up. Is there a fix to this and if so how can i fix it

[burnt_servo]

that happened to me a few days ago , after a few hours it started acting normally .

you can still exit the guide and surf the channels manually .

[Bandit5906]

Try turning off your IRD and let it update that way. I'm not sure how long to leave it off, but more than 10 minutes.

[Ludster90]

Try turning off your IRD and let it update that way. I'm not sure how long to leave it off, but more than 10 minutes.

Bandit,

I'm not an expert at this by any stretch, but if you take a firmware upgrade, wouldn't that ruin the mod (if that's what's being used)?

Starting having the same problem myself yesterday. I'm wondering if Chuckles is doing something.

Just wondering,
lud

[rykrishell]

When i go to guide it tries to download the new guide but it locks up. Is there a fix to this and if so how can i fix it

i Had the same trouble with my 301.10 i think because the software is not updated it will soon stop working thinking of putting satvia fix on so it can take the update :cool:

[natas2004]

bandit when you say "turn off reciever and let it update that way" do you mean letting dish update the system, Right now I have my "update without permission" turned off.

Should I turn it on so dish can update without my permission?

[Bandit5906]

No! I did not mean for it to take a firmware update as that would mess your TSOP (modded). I'm just saying let it update your guide listing that way.

[ceb1557]

I am having the same problem on a 3900 and a 301.13 ird's. I am using the SatVia fix and both ird's have taken the latest update so I don't think an update is the problem. The guide eventualy downloads but sometimes it takes a long time. I am looking for help on how to fix this also.

[hman]

same prob here..guide stops downloading..then black screen then sometimes get check switch error..somethings in the air

[Ludster90]

No! I did not mean for it to take a firmware update as that would mess your TSOP (modded). I'm just saying let it update your guide listing that way.

Good call Bandit!!

I turned off IRD for a few minutes (been leaving mine on all the time recently). Turned it back on. Rejected request to upgrade firmware. Guide was downloaded & works fine. All channels appear to be working.

Not sure what's going on with the guide feature or check-switch error, but if all it takes to load/reset is to turn the rec off for a couple minutes, I can live with that.

Thanks again,
lud

BTW...Love that avatar!

[burnt_servo]

same prob here..guide stops downloading..then black screen then sometimes get check switch error..somethings in the air


something is definatly up , just after 12:00 am , pst , i started having the download error , then i got a pop up window with the error with my multiswitch , then i started getting a dish reception error on some stations . just after 3:00 am the problems ALL went away , and i downloaded the channel menu normally .

i'm running a 301.010 with an atemga and tsop lock .

only one or 2 channels has the multiswitch error , thne only one or 2 would get the signal strength error , then as 3:00am got closer more and more stations " disapeared to the " multiswitch error " .

just to note THERE IS NO DEFECT IN MY EQUIPMENT WHAT SO EVER RIGHT NOW ( i went through it all the last few hours ) .

also the weather outside was calm without a single cloud in the sky , AND i'm running 36 and 40 inch dishes ( ie over kill for reception ) .

i think charlie is playing with us .

[Stocko]

Yesterday around noon the downloading guide froze on my 301.010. I pulled the power cord on the ird for 10-15 seconds and plugged back in, guide downloaded and ppv, porn etc came back to life. I'd bet the cause stems from these actions - hxxp://www.dssftp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59483

[panchocuerdas]

The same here, but one change I have two atmegas with diffrent programig tiers and one you can watch TV but it will not charge the guide and the other just mark error 004 version 207 in two 301.13
nothing wrong with the switch since I have a 2700 with rom 102 hooked to the same switch and cable to check it and worked fine?? Version of software 835.
Is there an atmega fix that can sove the issue or do we need to get the upgrade software and reload again all new TSOP information???
:eek:

[seaboard18]

something is definatly up , just after 12:00 am , pst , i started having the download error , then i got a pop up window with the error with my multiswitch , then i started getting a dish reception error on some stations . just after 3:00 am the problems ALL went away , and i downloaded the channel menu normally .
i'm running a 301.010 with an atemga and tsop lock .
only one or 2 channels has the multiswitch error , thne only one or 2 would get the signal strength error , then as 3:00am got closer more and more stations " disapeared to the " multiswitch error " .
just to note THERE IS NO DEFECT IN MY EQUIPMENT WHAT SO EVER RIGHT NOW ( i went through it all the last few hours ) .
also the weather outside was calm without a single cloud in the sky , AND i'm running 36 and 40 inch dishes ( ie over kill for reception ) .
i think charlie is playing with us .


Use this procedure until a better one is posted.

1) Disconnect the RF connector from the LNB on the back of the IRD.

2) Enter the system menu and run check switch.

3) Replace RF connector when its done and run check switch again.

This should fix the problem until this issue is resolved or until it occurs again.

It appearers that Charly is trying to corrupt the eprom in an attempt to force updates. Check switch problems generally occurs due to an eprom problem. However you could re-flash the eprom with a virgin eprom and solve the problem that way as well. However, I would not do that yet until further information is known about the ecm.

[panchocuerdas]

Use this procedure until a better one is posted.

1) Disconnect the RF connector from the LNB on the back of the IRD.

2) Enter the system menu and run check switch.

3) Replace RF connector when its done and run check switch again.

This should fix the problem until this issue is resolved or until it occurs again.

It appearers that Charly is trying to corrupt the eprom in an attempt to force updates. Check switch problems generally occurs due to an eprom problem. However you could re-flash the eprom with a virgin eprom and solve the problem that way as well. However, I would not do that yet until further information is known about the ecm.

Thanks it worked and better than taking an update and going to the vid mode and all that stuff. Lats see how long it will last

[bandit2360]

restream fw (even if up to date) remod or now is a good time to swich to norsa mod, Fixed problems on 6 irds that had same problem , had one other runnin cemu norsa and never had problem with it at all. don't know if it makes anydifferance or not but the one that had no problems running cemu hads a dish 101 eep for the dish bin with no blocker on it. The above fixed all the ones giving 004 error, running great since 3am

Hope this helps

[Bandit5906]

Yolu just have to turn off your IRD once a day for a little while so it can update the guide, IMHO!

[panchocuerdas]

restream fw (even if up to date) remod or now is a good time to swich to norsa mod, Fixed problems on 6 irds that had same problem , had one other runnin cemu norsa and never had problem with it at all. don't know if it makes anydifferance or not but the one that had no problems running cemu hads a dish 101 eep for the dish bin with no blocker on it. The above fixed all the ones giving 004 error, running great since 3am

Hope this helps

If i decide to go norsa do I need to Vidmode and change eeprom and the new TSOP on my 301 .13 firmware 207 no?:confused:

[seaboard18]

If i decide to go norsa do I need to Vidmode and change eeprom and the new TSOP on my 301 .13 firmware 207 no?:confused:

If I were you, I would wait a few days before you make any changes to the IRD. These problems are still affecting subs as well as testing units. Most of the events so far has been transient, so they may not return. Its hard to say at this time as to what the next step is, if any next step is even needed. No disrespect to Bandit but waiting for awhile may be better for now.

[burnt_servo]

Use this procedure until a better one is posted.

1) Disconnect the RF connector from the LNB on the back of the IRD.
2) Enter the system menu and run check switch.
3) Replace RF connector when its done and run check switch again.
This should fix the problem until this issue is resolved or until it occurs again.
It appearers that Charly is trying to corrupt the eprom in an attempt to force updates. Check switch problems generally occurs due to an eprom problem. However you could re-flash the eprom with a virgin eprom and solve the problem that way as well. However, I would not do that yet until further information is known about the ecm.


so if the eeprom did get corutped , and an update was forced , all i would have to do is reflash the tsop and eeprom with the tomico images , like most of us did a few months ago , right?

[puckfan7]

No need to go with the "ask my permission for updates" when using Satvia NoRSA. Mine took an update yesterday around the same time. It took a little while but I was up and running.

[esario]

Im a novice, but I was having the same problems. No guild, guild freezing in download, black screen. I took my ird to a friend, he jtaged it and said it had taked an update. He reprogramed it and all is fine now. Not sure what file he had on but I'm sure it was not satvia because I was using atmega n2 files on the card.

[burnt_servo]

interesting , so charlie is having sucsess in forcing updates .....

personally i never turn my reciever off , and if it does go off it's either because of a power outage , repair , or a quick reboot .

[seaboard18]

interesting , so charlie is having sucsess in forcing updates .....
personally i never turn my reciever off , and if it does go off it's either because of a power outage , repair , or a quick reboot .

You could describe it as a forced update, although in most cases the nags require interaction from the end user. The best option is to cancel any interactive nag that requires you to accept anything. In the case of the switch nag, the forced update was hidden and should be handled as an ecm, then dealt with as described.

Its a matter of preference though, jtaging your ird is a fix all proposition and will also fix the problems. Back in the N1 days, the most famous ecm was the serious error nag. This ecm is an example of how dish can disable an ird and require jtaging to fix the problem by erasing certain sectors every few days or hours as long as the ecm was in the stream. At that time you could approach this serious error nag in a couple of ways, you could jtag and erase the sector or you could use a firmware softlock and to fix the problem. The advantage to the softlock was that when you got hit with the ecm a re-boot of the Ird was all that was needed to cure the problem, jtaging was not required. The softlock was applied using software and worked on either cards or emulation.

Some testers need an easy quick fix and allot of testers have problems using jtags and coping with ecm's,where advanced testers do not have these problems. In most cases a nag should be considered as an ecm in which case, if you are not sure of what it means, its best to wait for information from others before acting on the problem without an understanding of the consequences of your action. The bottom line is this, if the ECM is not successful for a long time, its not repeated frequently, if ever. If an ECM requires the use of a Jtag, its a serious problem.

I wish every tester would learn emulation, it provides allot of flexibility for testers. You have the ability to change things on the fly and you can stream log commands. Most testers are interested in the easy approach, using a card and watching TV. Mili provides an emulation forum here and so does rom10x.com and other forums. Many card patches and other techniques are born from emulation. Its not bad to test all platforms if you have time. FTA is also a cornerstone of testing.

[gwabitz]

Seems a lot of people are having problems with the guide loading, and now with the switch error. Does anyone have a solution for this...maybe a new pfg? Thanks in advance.

[alsouthster]

The satvia no rsa pfg has been running fine so far, at least on the 3100.10, at p246.
This is of course after you do the required alterations: change box keys and Ird hex # on unmodded tsops
save new eeprom, change pfg in jeepers.

It takes the updates, which is good, since that's what chuck seems to be tampering with
dunno if it will last, but like I say it's working now

[gwabitz]

Did you find Satvia harder to use than Tomico, or easier. To me it seems Satvia is more playing around, than just reflashing the TSOP and Eeprom with a new one like in Tomico.

[alsouthster]

it's easy (on a 3100.10 anyway, haven't tried it on other irds).
just gotta do the changes to (saved copies of) your original tsops.
then write them back. same procedure as rigging your ird for tomico.
the satvia no rsa pfg, at least on the 3100.10 (or 301.10), at least so far, in terms of applying it, is just a pfg like any other atmega pfg....just use jeepers, erase previous pfg, plug in satvia pfg.
of course, I've only done it once...since I changed in early March in anticpation of the feared 101 swap crackdown (which , uh, actually didn't happen ) I haven't had to change it at all
make sure you get the right pfg though

[Bandit5906]

Same thing I've used and it is working fine on my 4900.

[gwabitz]

Does it require the use of flash edit? Cause I've never been able to figure it out!! (Flash edit that is). I've used already modified TSOPs and Eeproms with my build ID. It seems to me that already modified TSOPs wouldn't work with Satvia because a person uses their original IRD# and boxkeys..correct?
However, I do like the sounds of Satvia cause it would make it harder for Charlie to hit. Anyone out there using Satvia on a 301-013 single?

[alsouthster]

Hey Seaboard

I hear what you're saying...

"In most cases a nag should be considered as an ecm in which case, if you are not sure of what it means, its best to wait for information from others before acting on the problem without an understanding of the consequences of your action....If an ECM requires the use of a Jtag, its a serious problem. "

And probably most people. like you say, might want to wait to see what transpires with this latest development before attempting a panicky fix, especially if the present non-jtagging fix is simply unplugging and resetting. Annoying, but no big deal.

But...don't you think that in the future many fixes, temporary or otherwise, will require using a JTAg, and that the more everyone knows how to jtag and flash and "mod" their irds, so that it becomes second nature, the better?
just curious
still running good w/satvia no rsa ;)

[gwabitz]

Hey maybe I'll try reading the sticky "Satvia for dummies" before asking stupid questions duh!!!...laugh...
One question though is anyone getting the nag with a 301-013 flashed over to Satvia?

[seaboard18]

Hey Seaboard

I hear what you're saying...

"In most cases a nag should be considered as an ecm in which case, if you are not sure of what it means, its best to wait for information from others before acting on the problem without an understanding of the consequences of your action....If an ECM requires the use of a Jtag, its a serious problem. "

And probably most people. like you say, might want to wait to see what transpires with this latest development before attempting a panicky fix, especially if the present non-jtagging fix is simply unplugging and resetting. Annoying, but no big deal.

But...don't you think that in the future many fixes, temporary or otherwise, will require using a JTAg, and that the more everyone knows how to jtag and flash and "mod" their irds, so that it becomes second nature, the better?
just curious
still running good w/satvia no rsa ;)


I sure do believe that statement, except allot of the people that read this forum has little idea of how to use a jtag. That is why they buy Atmega's and AVR-X Cards. I am sorry guys, I am retracting everything I said above. All you guys need to learn how to do it right, use a jtag each time you have a problem. If you fail in your attempt at jtagging at least three times, be sure to ask alsouthster for help every hour until he gets you up and running again.

[alsouthster]

lol

[blueman1955]

Blueman1995 Here
I had the same problem, just went outside and cleaned the connectons on the sw21 switch and i didn't have the muti switch problem any more and the guide worked better and faster

[Rocks]

I had the same problem, with my 3100.010 Bev. I've unlocked the locks and it updated the guide channels with no problem, but make sure go on menu and and select "ask before downloading"

[Bandit5906]

I sure do believe that statement, except allot of the people that read this forum has little idea of how to use a jtag. That is why they buy Atmega's and AVR-X Cards. I am sorry guys, I am retracting everything I said above. All you guys need to learn how to do it right, use a jtag each time you have a problem. If you fail in your attempt at jtagging at least three times, be sure to ask alsouthster for help every hour until he gets you up and running again.

I think of the J-TAG as an insurance that I will always be able to repair my IRD should anything happen to it. For $50.00 or so you can't beat it.

Better to have it (and a saved copy of your TSOP) and not need it then it is to need it and have to wait for one with no TV. Even worse you have to find a public D/L of your TSOP!~

Just my opinion though.

[dickcec]

unplug receiver for 5 or 10 seconds then plug back in. now works ok.

[seaboard18]

I think of the J-TAG as an insurance that I will always be able to repair my IRD should anything happen to it. For $50.00 or so you can't beat it.
Better to have it (and a saved copy of your TSOP) and not need it then it is to need it and have to wait for one with no TV. Even worse you have to find a public D/L of your TSOP!~
Just my opinion though.


Hi Bandit,

Now I'm not 100 % sure yet about this check switch deal, but I did make some headway tonight. It appears that the problem is key related a bit. I think you need auto roll for the key set and you may need bad keys in the bin once you get auto roll working. So far I have had success using a set of bad keys and letting the bin auto roll from a dead start. I tried it both ways. The good key caused the switch error immediately on boot up. Changed it back to bad keys and I have not had the switch error, with auto rolling keys. Hidden keys in the stream designed to force the update nag seems to be the problem. This is my opinion only and at the moment is not complete proof, so don't hold me too it.

I did decide to play with Jkeys for about 3 hours on a 4900. I tried a few different Tsop variation with bad results. However, I got the 4900 back working again. That is when I decided I needed auto roll, which so far has worked on both units.

[jmf38]

i was playin around with some locals,etc. atmega files and accidentally had a tomico(wrong ird and bk) it was late? anyhow my 13(vid modded) said wrong switch etc.(please run a checkswitch) on every channel.
then right below channel 101, it said channel 9900 or something etc. my guide showed 10-15 test channels so i know i got ecm'd.
simple fix: reflashed my original no rsa TSOP and EE.everything fine after that.
it's a 301-13 and i did get jkeys errors at first while flashing so i programmed a virg EE first then unplugged IRD-folowing vid mod guidelines-in which i already vidmodded it, it let me erase the flash then EE.anyhow , after reflashing tsop and virg EE,all went back to normal-thank god i saved it when it was working!(before this happened)-that's important in case of an ECM. reflash it back and go on!

[Electric_Menace]

I'm going to be stupid here and throw something out there.
Do you guys have your time zone and zip code set up correctly?
These things started happening after daylight savings hit.

[dude999]

I have been having that as well check swich comes up and unit goes black screen If you go to the installation page and change the transponder and SAt to 119 working with a good signal and then allow it to update this usually fixes the upload issue. Chuck must be rolling the transponder to default to 110 and then your guide can no longer load properly

just my 2 cents

[Electric_Menace]

SATVIA NO_RSA mod fixed it for me.