ROM102 unlocks but ATR:FF?

[sideman]

Hi,
I'm usung a t911 green that i modded and every time i can unlock it in seconds but when i reset card (atr) it says ATR:FF this does not appear to be a valid ROM102 ATR. I can't read the card cause it keeps saying the card is locked. I know the card can't be looped because it works fine in the receiver plus i can unlock it. I chacked all the steps for the mod and i can't see anything wrong. I can not tell if the trace between pin 1 and 2 on the top is all the way cut but it looks like it. Would that trace do this if not cut all the way? This is a weird one for me and i don't know where to go from here so any help will be great.
Forgot to say that i get no ATR with ISO Programmer either.
TIA

[Zim]

what s/w are you using???????????
only reason I ask is my mik 3 in nagramaster will do the same thing if my ohms are to low..........

[sideman]

Thanks for the reply zim. I am using NagraMaster but i also use winexplorer. On my ohms if i set it below 12 it bottoms out and above 19 it takes longer but does the same ( i have a 25ohm rheostat). I get the same thing with a iso programmer and i forgot to say that this is on 2 cards and 2 t911! This is really getting to me. I may just have to get an old computer to try it. I have a 3400+ 64 bit system running 64 bit xp and 32 bit media center. Thanks

[kimmichael44]

I get that message when I mistakenly try to use my modded Nexus to read the card instead of reading it with the ISO programmer.

[sideman]

Does it make a difference if the cards are new and never been activated or messed with ( came with my 501's and does show everything in system info but they have never been activated so can't tell any further than that )? I should be able to put the card in an ISO programmer and get a ATR reset with any software correct?

[Zim]

no to your first and yes to your second question.........

[sideman]

Am i wrong in my thinking that a card can not be looped if you can unlock it? I am really starting to second guess myself on that. I remember back with the hu if the atr was ff it was looped but i think it is different for dish is that right? I have tried 2 iso programmers and 2 modded t911's 2 ROM102's 1 is ver 103 and 1 is 105 now and every software i can find. I even tried an computer at my shop and no go. I am really thinking that i'm just out of luck with these cards and since i can't even get ATR reset with a ISO programmer ( this is the first thing i did before modding my first t911 and got ATR:FF so i thought well i have to unlock it first). Thanks for all your help and if you can think of something to try please let me know.

[fubr]

If no atr then mod loader would not report it as unlocked.
I had issues with my iso and I put another power supply on it and cutt it down some and also had to change to comm port 1 instead of comm 2. The settings are diferent on my machine.
OK then I had to use nagramaster and a d2c file called Rom102Readeeprom-A0FF-INTERCEPT3000-AFFF.D2c and sent it to the card and I was able to read the card in naggramaster and cleancodespace then write the clean image,
Then I was able to write and clean the card using the romcode private code on it.
Might be something for you to look in on.(the settings and voltage)

[sideman]

My Programmers are netsignia 210 and are powered by ps2 port. I also have an old all in one that does the same. I'll keep testing unless no thinks my programmers will work. Thanks

Never mind i think i figured it out. I remember something about dish needs a higher crystal so i'm going check in on that and see what i find.

[datheca]

could you please tell me where I could get the d2c file you refer to in post #8? I think my intercept code got overwritten. now getting a different ATR # in N2E7 and would read card.. OK I found it in files section, only called rom 102 D2C.zip

[sideman]

That was the problem it needs a 3.6864 mhz crystal. Thanks to everyone but fubr saying check voltage got me thinking about the crystal. Hope this thread helps others with this problem.
Thanks again to all

[Zim]

I am actually using the 3.57 crystal on all my plastic from rom 3 to 102 on my iso......