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howzer
04-18-2006, 10:50 PM
Can someone please jump in here and set my mind at ease any tell me why we cant ........

Get a high powerful microscope and Zoom in on the rom epprom and asic. Take a snap shot.

Or maby the question should be something more like this.

How is the data stored on the eeprom. Is it similar to how data is etched on hard drives?

If we were able to zoom in on theses things with no limits, and were able to remove any layer we wanted (remember no limits) would we be able to see anything that could be converted to a few 000s and 1111s with the chip not even turned on?

I guess another question is really how is the data physically stored on the ...

Asic
Rom
Epprom

any takers here ????

shopright
04-20-2006, 04:19 AM
Its all done with 0 and 1 like switchs 0=off and 1=on which = the binary numbers
to gain this information at that level takes awhile and a lot of cash the out come will never pay for that much money a better way to gain entry is to piggyback a code and send it the same time dtv opens the door and hold the door open this can be done a couple of ways which will not be freeware or released for some time.

badger6
04-20-2006, 04:37 AM
Shit, whats the point. Dish is just as good and here for the taking, just no sunday ticket, but if you set the tiers right you can get most of the games. The days of having all the providers "wide open" like my ex wife are gone. I know that there has some been progress in digital cable and DTV, but there is no need for it while dish can be had virtually free. It is not worth the risk to release anything even if it exists, you can't compete with FREE. If all the Dish birds crashed to earth tomorrow, you would probably see something come out for digital cable or DTV in the near future, but that ain't gonna happen til charlie tightens his belt. Sit tight and enjoy the ride, dish is probably here for awhile.

shopright
04-20-2006, 04:52 AM
Its good to have a backup plan so the ride never ends.

badger6
04-20-2006, 05:15 AM
I here ya, but its not good to have everything up and running like a few years ago.

howzer
04-20-2006, 10:07 PM
Thanks, for the quick reply's.


Shit, whats the point. Dish is just as good and here for the taking, .

I am running dish as we speak, and I am board :cool:

If all the Dish birds crashed to earth tomorrow, you would probably see something come out for digital cable or DTV in the near future,

Hopefully

Its all done with 0 and 1 like switchs 0=off and 1=on which = the binary numbers

I see what you are saying, but is there a place on the chip that stores the instructions that tells which switch's to turn on and off at the boot up phase of the chip ?

Was just wondering on the design.


I here ya, but its not good to have everything up and running like a few years ago.


Why not ?

badger6
04-23-2006, 06:21 AM
Cause I said so, ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

MaxmMhz
04-23-2006, 06:39 AM
Sit tight and enjoy the ride, dish is probably here for awhile.[/quote]


AAAmen and hallelujah brother, I just started testing and hope to catch a decent ride!!!!!!!!!!!!

howzer
04-23-2006, 09:48 PM
Cause I said so, ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

:P


AAAmen and hallelujah brother, I just started testing and hope to catch a decent ride!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol

Nissian "Enjoy the ride"
Dishnetwork "Enjoy the ride"

there could be some legal stuff about that

shopright
04-24-2006, 02:56 AM
all high level language uses machine code 0 and 1 since the chip is locked we could read the chip from the outside like the way the new cards will read they won't have pads in the future but will have pickup coils to talk to the chip in the old days we did poke and peek to get a result. You can't see code on a chip by looking under a microscope but you can read the on and off states.