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mili
05-25-2006, 01:53 AM
BEV idiots removed their ECM but Dish is on the roll. Once I got specifics it will be posted.

mili

hacker
05-25-2006, 02:05 AM
all of my rom 102 cards say you do not have authorization to view this channel etc. was i hit with ecm or do i need to update my keys? I am using the v23 blocker. thanks

cojones
05-25-2006, 02:27 AM
It's now time for all good DISH subed custermers to start calling Dish and start winning about not having tv!

mili
05-25-2006, 03:29 AM
They are up to some serious shit. Bev removed last weeks ECM to upgrade the firmware that will enforce the session key stuff and then put last week's ECM back in the stream. Probably not enough bandwidth for everythign to come down simulataneously or they just can'f afforf to hammer subs with all these updates simulataneously.

DishNet has changed the keyroll algorythm and rolled the keys.
Use these below:

Ikey0: E870B00A8E0A3DC5F359C35F1ADA195C

Ikey1: 719C607104C139AE88FFF05ED24CF3FC

mili

willham
05-25-2006, 03:42 AM
what is the best way to change the key's on a rom 102 . I never han to do that before

mili
05-25-2006, 03:54 AM
Please open a new discussion on that subject in the apropriate forum.

mili

ra8844
05-25-2006, 04:51 AM
Hi Milli, what about Romcode. It sounds like not only there was a key change but also keyroll algorithm. Any chance you speak to them regarding an update?

mili
05-25-2006, 05:09 AM
Will ask.

Newest working ROM102 Penga blocker V22 is on http://dssftp.com/files/index.php?m=category&CATID=46

mili

JT
05-25-2006, 06:43 AM
Actually, it's not even an ECM. It's nothing more than a simple key change. Catch is to grab it you have to have current map functions enabled, and the current public blockers don't allow it. This is good in most ways of thinking about it. The new blocker should take care of it. Let's hope we don't let in the riff raff when we open the door so to speak.

Crazy1_79
05-25-2006, 06:47 AM
always a chance, I'm running a char**e w/o a blocker right now. I wanna see this rev 108 and then I wanna get back into it. so if there is any other bullshit in the stream right now. I'll let ya know.

mspy
05-25-2006, 06:54 AM
How to correct my situation? I have Coolsat 5000 and using 1.19 right now. This AM I had all my channels. Came back from work and they are all gone. :( What to do?

LEEZA
05-25-2006, 07:29 AM
How to correct my situation? I have Coolsat 5000 and using 1.19 right now. This AM I had all my channels. Came back from work and they are all gone. :( What to do?
Turn off auto roll for dishn** and manually put in the new keys found on the front page of the site.You do so by pressing channel 8282 and using the # pad for numbers and the info button to enter letters.Works for dishn** only,no fix for b3v as of yet.

edieedie
05-25-2006, 07:44 AM
it may be my computer, but i can not get into 3 of the busyest site and one has a message that makes no sence at all

may be they are overloaded with this key roll, dont know but i cannot get into any of them

mspy
05-25-2006, 07:48 AM
thanks very much!

LEEZA
05-25-2006, 08:22 AM
Spoke a little too soon about b3v,seems like if you let the keys roll, all channels are back open,for how long I do not know,but everything is open as of 1:20AM eastern time.Enjoy your porn while it lasts boys !!

JT
05-25-2006, 09:41 AM
uh. thanks

JT
05-25-2006, 10:18 AM
always a chance, I'm running a char**e w/o a blocker right now. I wanna see this rev 108 and then I wanna get back into it. so if there is any other bullshit in the stream right now. I'll let ya know.
Thanks Crazy. Chances are I'll know whats up before you have an oppertunity to fill me in. Keep it real bro.

werks
05-25-2006, 03:09 PM
They are up to some serious shit. Bev removed last weeks ECM to upgrade the firmware that will enforce the session key stuff and then put last week's ECM back in the stream. Probably not enough bandwidth for everythign to come down simulataneously or they just can'f afforf to hammer subs with all these updates simulataneously.

DishNet has changed the keyroll algorythm and rolled the keys.
Use these below:

Ikey0: E870B00A8E0A3DC5F359C35F1ADA195C

Ikey1: 719C607104C139AE88FFF05ED24CF3FC

mili
Did that...no worky (ROM 102)...still get "not authorized" BS!

mili
05-25-2006, 04:54 PM
DishNet is working with new keys, the ROMCODE guys updated their software so it rolls now. Be prepared for a very bumpy June.

mili

Hyperion
05-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Mili, do I understand you correctly - did you issue suggestions to NOT use blocker for 311 and 811 units?

mili
05-26-2006, 12:50 AM
Do not use the ROMCODE private blocker. Use Penga's V22.

mili

studmonkey76
05-26-2006, 12:51 AM
why cant we use the romcode private blocker?

Cuba_Tv
05-26-2006, 01:02 AM
Do not use the ROMCODE private blocker. Use Penga's V22.

mili
Hum i mmight be in the wrong thread but i believe that Keys are not rolling on Charlie as of right now. Corect me if i wrong.

JT
05-26-2006, 01:10 AM
There is a new version of the V22 Penga blocker that is working great so far. Thanks Penga! Other issues going on for sure, but the latest blocker is working great so far. Like Mili said in another thread, prepare for a bumpy June.

mili
05-26-2006, 01:12 AM
Because Romcode says we can't.

mili

studmonkey76
05-26-2006, 01:53 AM
is thier a reason why not to use the romcode software? if something was wrong, why dont they have something on thier home page, saying not to use it right now? they had an update around noon today CST. is this new update the problem or was last nites update a problem?

kopeyk
05-26-2006, 02:33 AM
You rock Mili,im just sorry that people cant be patient with you and show some respect that is gratefully earned to you. i wait till you post your codes and do have respect for your work here. best regards Kopey

studmonkey76
05-26-2006, 08:38 AM
i respect mili as well... any new info on romcode mili? if they dont want us to use it now, whats the problem? when will there be an update to fix thier problem if there is one?

1one
05-26-2006, 02:16 PM
Actually, it's not even an ECM. It's nothing more than a simple key change. Catch is to grab it you have to have current map functions enabled, and the current public blockers don't allow it. This is good in most ways of thinking about it. The new blocker should take care of it. Let's hope we don't let in the riff raff when we open the door so to speak.
So if I understand correctly JT. Nagra2 stream with key change EMM packets and that extra small string that appears to be a shorter ECM string is in fact not an ECM at all. It is a remap to where? Could it not be smaller string with no tsop corrupts? Them not wanting to kill their cardless and all? I still cannot find where that code is going to. Or are you indeed saying it is somehow going to data? Any help would be appreciated.

1one
05-26-2006, 03:41 PM
My post after re reading it confuses even me. This seems to be the most common theory.
Providers can open the front door and walk thru. We come in the backdoor. They change revisions of cards so autoroll will not work.This also adds some form of glitch resistance. Then they change keys to kill video. We in turn use our backdoor to spoof rev. and change keys. Gives us back our tv. We want to know what else they are doing while they are in there. Some people beleive they are being neferious. Some people just want more options from their mapping routine. All want to know if they can just kill it all together.

JT
05-26-2006, 11:37 PM
So if I understand correctly JT. Nagra2 stream with key change EMM packets and that extra small string that appears to be a shorter ECM string is in fact not an ECM at all. It is a remap to where? Could it not be smaller string with no tsop corrupts? Them not wanting to kill their cardless and all? I still cannot find where that code is going to. Or are you indeed saying it is somehow going to data? Any help would be appreciated.

The info is going to data in the eprom somewhere. Specifially where it going or what it's doing I couldn't tell you. That's a question for Penga and some of the other true gurus. Mili had a great explanation of what is most likely going on. They get us to change our blocker to let one EMM through, then another, then another, all the while building a trojan horse in there somewhere. My solution for the time being is running exclusively N1 roms and I'm no longer even messing with Bev. That way if the rom dies I don't loose anything worth much of anything anyway. Don't think were going to even be able to get away with that, but for the time being I thinks it's the best solution.

skinerd
05-26-2006, 11:42 PM
I believe the use of the rom102 is relatively safe IF you shut off auto roll and pass -0- EMMs. When thet figure how to kill us all, they will do so, so it don't really matter.

seaboard18
05-27-2006, 02:57 AM
The info is going to data in the eprom somewhere. Specifially where it going or what it's doing I couldn't tell you. That's a question for Penga and some of the other true gurus. Mili had a great explanation of what is most likely going on. They get us to change our blocker to let one EMM through, then another, then another, all the while building a trojan horse in there somewhere. My solution for the time being is running exclusively N1 roms and I'm no longer even messing with Bev. That way if the rom dies I don't loose anything worth much of anything anyway. Don't think were going to even be able to get away with that, but for the time being I thinks it's the best solution.


Setting up a type of virus would be difficult to control for the provider when it comes to subbed IRDS's, if it were to get out of hand. However, introducing counterfeit code into testing IRD's, by testers would be easy for the provider to locate with commands designed to look for tampering. In which case, if the provider is smart enough to write such code, a virus, it could destroy the card and the IRD. Smart code such as this would have to be correct all the time, else millions of dollars could be lost by the provider. Basically locking sectors in the TSOP would do the trick, the IRD would be finished.

1one
05-27-2006, 02:27 PM
But that is just speculation. Why would they want to rely on that? Whith that much money involved, it appears thay are being very calculating and slow with their countermeasures.