View Full Version : People if you got no TV read this right now.
I am sick of emails asking me what is going on and in general being utterly clueless and not taking the time to read.
DiSHNET and BEV has found a way to eliminate FTA receivers, AVR-X, ROM10, Atmega, Syndrome and C-emu setups.
ROM 102 cards were also blacked out but have been fixed for now To program a ROM102 you will need a real DishNet reciever a real open ROM102 card, an unlocker, a JTAG programmer and a LOT of reading to do. DO NOT ask me how to program your ROM102 card. A How TO is on www.bellexpress.vu/rom.html
So leave me alone, I got my plate full. If you got an FTA reciever find the free to air satellites and watch those until you get a DishNet setup.
ALL OF YOU BE PREPARED TO BE WITHOUT TV FOR DAYS MAYBE WEEKS in the future as Dish and BEV steps up their ECMs.
mili
norton
06-03-2006, 05:19 AM
over at rom10x snags posted a file claiming to fix ppv and porn using a rom102. Its a bin using public information, my guess is that people using 102 cards will be back up shortly using private info. also people are reporting that romcode private blockers are working.
studmonkey76
06-03-2006, 05:22 AM
yup...romcode here up and running...
ruciz
06-03-2006, 05:24 AM
I have seen a 102 working bin posted for dishnet.. hmm. guess plastic is the way to go, private code wasn't even affected either.. go figure.
anyone on plastic are back up and running..
THats good news then. I was not checking but heard that 108s were glitched into.
Demand is going through the roof and I am running out of unlockers anf ROM102s not to mention DP301s and 311s
mili
pedroza you can start by posting in the right forum.
mili
ruciz
06-03-2006, 05:44 AM
I just loaded the bin: Bell Rom 102 Rev244 Updated with Blocker and AutoLock.bn102. And now Just can't unlock the card, I tried with the password that came with the bin and nothing... What can I do???
Thanks...
glitch back into it using an unlocker.
pedroza1
06-03-2006, 05:46 AM
Sorry mili, where do I have to put my message?
ruciz
06-03-2006, 05:47 AM
sesems the 102 update was pulled due to a backdoor or blocker problem..
People who email me saying they just got stuff a few weeks ago and now want to return it please smarten up. All sales are FINAL as you all agreed to on
http://dssftp.com/xcart/help.php?section=conditions
When you bought it and when I sent it all was working perfectly. This is NOT WALLMART. You try getting nasty and threaten me with charging back and shit I will make sure you will not be happy either. This is a promise. I did not take advantage of you, sold you perfectly working hardware and I suggest you don't try slick shit with me either. THERE ARE NO WARRANTIES IN THIS HOBBY. Things can work for years or two days. There is no way of telling. It is YOUR RISK not mine.
mili
Pedroza1 one mor post in this thread and you are banned. Go to the ROM102 thread.
mili
brjak
06-03-2006, 07:12 AM
easy milli, pedro just trying to help...hes only got 2 posts.....
Sorry long day. PLease Pedroza1 find the appropriate forum and by all means start your own thread there.
mili
moneyfarmer0
06-03-2006, 08:48 AM
I got what i paid for. $400...easy come,easy go. Its the nature of the game. Mili did everything he said he would, and always does. He's a good guy
fed123456
06-03-2006, 05:04 PM
No one seems here care about DVB. I think this one will be just fine.
Just do not tell me they are the same as FTA. Any idea?
hi ,guy's..
just registered and very new to this forum.
seem like i have a lot of reading to do...
maybe in a nut shell you can answer a question for me????
is my 2 moth old coolsat 5000 just a paperweight now??? or shall i find a cure for what ails it in the many forums??? (if so can you direct me)
thanks jim
I would not say it is paperweight, it is perfectly capable of receiving free to air channels, exactly what it was designed to do.
fed123456 typing in red will not make your DVB card more potent. I suggest you locate them FTA satellites.
mili
thanks,
i'll keep trying and "reading" for updates
jim!!!!
Beavervillain
06-03-2006, 08:01 PM
People who email me saying they just got stuff a few weeks ago and now want to return it please smarten up. All sales are FINAL as you all agreed
mili
FreeTVers sure do get up set when they ain't getting free tv. Thats kinda why I miss the old H card days when the only people in it were testers.
Common sense would tell people that this is a high risk hobby but then again common sense ain't that common is it.
It all comes down to common sense and denial indeed. Anyone who gives all sorta lifetime warranties and boasted promises in this hobby is plain lying. There is no such thing as free TV. You must pay for hardware and do the learning reading thing. THen you will get a lot cheaper access to all the channels but it ain't free and any current setup can go obsolete overnight. The risk and benefits of hacking are ALL the customers'. I stopped selling AVR-X cards two days before they started this ECM on DishNet. Look at the FTA dealers' sites. You think they stopped selling the FTA recievers?
mili
Magneto
06-04-2006, 12:08 AM
It all comes down to common sense and denial indeed. Anyone who gives all sorta lifetime warranties and boasted promises in this hobby is plain lying. There is no such thing as free TV. You must pay for hardware and do the learning reading thing. THen you will get a lot cheaper access to all the channels but it ain't free and any current setup can go obsolete overnight. The risk and benefits of hacking are ALL the customers'. I stopped selling AVR-X cards two days before they started this ECM on DishNet. Look at the FTA dealers' sites. You think they stopped selling the FTA recievers?
mili
The only guaranteed solutions other than paying DISH/DTV available to date are the Discounted Subscription Services.... you will not get PPV, but at least can forget about obsolete hardware, updating keys, soldering equipment, hunting fixes, losing your favorite programs, forgetting about World Cup, etc. ...
Direct Link to DirecTV Discounted Services Here (https://dssftp.com/xcart/product.php?productid=5)
fed123456
06-04-2006, 01:50 AM
No one seems here care about DVB. I think this one will be just fine.
Just do not tell me they are the same as FTA. Any idea?
With all respect I have to disagree. FTA power is limited
to it’s design, DVB does all calculation using computer power
which in this case are almost limitless and only software related. It will decode with enough speed even 1024. Thanks to God I have bunch of 102 ROMS for
free, but it seems to be next Charlie target. Would not give more then 2
months before he will loop it forever.
maxheadroom
06-04-2006, 02:05 AM
These recent black screen channels were not an ECM. Charley simply fixed it so that cards with rev less than 108 get black screen.
All you need to do is unlock your cards in nagra 2, read them then apply the latest Penga patch (part1) to convert the minimum revision to 108, write the image back to the card and everything should be working again.
The reason FTA is down is that the firmware needs to be upgraded to support Rev 108. No doubt BlackList will be releasing the updates soon. As before this needs to be done for every FTA model IRD.
Beavervillain
06-04-2006, 03:49 AM
With all respect I have to disagree. FTA power is limited
to it’s design, DVB does all calculation using computer power
which in this case are almost limitless and only software related. It will decode with enough speed even 1024. Thanks to God I have bunch of 102 ROMS for
free, but it seems to be next Charlie target. Would not give more then 2
months before he will loop it forever.
I agree that DVB has the ability of more computing power then FTA but you still have to break down the new 768cmd and devolop a work around for it. I am sure it will happen then again it might not. But what mili is saying is until a work around is found then FTA channels are all you are gonna get. IMHO
Beavervillain
06-04-2006, 03:54 AM
These recent black screen channels were not an ECM. Charley simply fixed it so that cards with rev less than 108 get black screen.
All you need to do is unlock your cards in nagra 2, read them then apply the latest Penga patch (part1) to convert the minimum revision to 108, write the image back to the card and everything should be working again.
The reason FTA is down is that the firmware needs to be upgraded to support Rev 108. No doubt BlackList will be releasing the updates soon. As before this needs to be done for every FTA model IRD.
This is not what I have been led to believe. Bell has been at it for a couple of weeks now and I see no fix for them. Time will tell though.
genehackman
06-04-2006, 04:04 AM
how reliable is the info max is posting? It seems almost too easy. It is certainly contradictory to what everybody else has been saying took place. Can anybody else vouch for max's theory?
fed123456
06-04-2006, 04:12 AM
I would never compare DIGITAL VIDEO BOARD
to FTA RECIEVER. In many ways they are different.
Not to say it’s much easier to write plugin for DVB.
CHARLIE has a lot of chances to kill 102 ROMS.
Even if I didn’t have one I would not rush to buy it in month or two.
What was the stupid idea to spend money on AVR-X when Atmega
was working fine? CHARLIE probably already killed FTA
due to luck in speed and design, but he can not do anything with
DVB for which you need only plugin to decrypt a scream. Time will tell.
These recent black screen channels were not an ECM. Charley simply fixed it so that cards with rev less than 108 get black screen.
All you need to do is unlock your cards in nagra 2, read them then apply the latest Penga patch (part1) to convert the minimum revision to 108, write the image back to the card and everything should be working again.
The reason FTA is down is that the firmware needs to be upgraded to support Rev 108. No doubt BlackList will be releasing the updates soon. As before this needs to be done for every FTA model IRD.
I have only been reading for a few minutes today but so far the way I see it is :
You kinda right. and kinda wrong. Depends on how you see it.
Any attempt to stop pirating is considered an ecm. Maybe not by definition by some coders but fact remains if they do something just to stop signal integrity it is a ecm
I have tv with rev 105 so it is not looking for rev 108 only, probably will but not yet.
I also know others who say same thing and not at rev 108 yet.
the reason fta's are down is they cant do the math (yet) not because of rev 108
But yet once again WTF do I know,
to the general population:
I see alot of excuses from "we are waiting to get it right " to "I am out of the country on business and will get a fix soon as I get back"(FTA)
Is that better than no excuse at all? Who knows. WHY are you fta'ers so defensive. We never claimed to be a fta site but have tolerated ya'll for a long time and then they come here and bitch at us for telling the truth.
you can tell a know nothing fta'er by the stupid post they make and I am not talking newbies. I am talking about people who for years have plugged a cable up and downloaded a file and prerssed a button.
If thats the way you like it then I say GOOD FOR YOU. Nothing wrong with that at all.
But dont start no shit with us cause your not happy anymore.AND for God's sake LEARN HOW TO FUCKING POST A QUESTION in the correct forum!!!!! Do the real FTA forums put up with that shit?
cmon Legenda1a, we got no beef with the higher ups on that site. we do our thing they do thiers.
Unlike some of the members there we are not going to let you come here and trash them by posting a funny name for them.
The guy that owns it is a fine dude and most his mods are too..........
you dont like em go tell em . and pick a spot for your new asshole they will tear for you
badger6
06-04-2006, 07:13 AM
Well, I guess you could call it an ECM, if you want. More like a system upgrade to me. Anyhow, its the same result. Charlie had this trick since N2 started, and its time for him to use it. I really don't think N2 is secure at all. Maybe this is the end, but the hole is there now, just like before, there is always a hole. This is just like the R2 and R3, we have time on our side. The key now is not to freak out !!!! A little down time is gonna happen now and then, and thats a good thing. This reminds me of when N1 crapped out. Sort of funny if you ask me.
you know what i love about this site.... all you people love each other when its working .... when its down... its like a fight with you x wife because she ran off with and 22 y/o sufer type and kept the house and he is living in it and your not. your paying the bills.... oh and you know what i do love about Rom10_.xxx
OK I read your post here. then I read the email I got where you edited it to say much more than what it first said.
No you wont get banned for what you tried to type but maybe you need to read your post before you hit enter.
And you bitch about this place selling shit. WHERE the hell do you think those guys got their stuff? A dealer somewhere
They are not pulling programed cards out of theirs ass. Everybody needs a dealer. if you dont want anything from here fine. But where do you get off thinking nobody needs a dealer.
Take it to the rants if you have a reply not in this thread ok.
IMO, since the action to change the way the cards function was taken for the purpose of limiting the options for people to get services without paying the providers, you have to call it an ECM.
badger6
06-04-2006, 08:43 AM
IMO, since the action to change the way the cards function was taken for the purpose of limiting the options for people to get services without paying the providers, you have to call it an ECM.
Call it what you want, this is no ECM. This is just a system upgrade.
balaban32
06-04-2006, 03:05 PM
At least we still have ppv sports on atmega with 301's and 2700, 3800's. No PPV movies or porn though. We'll see how long it lasts.
hughnohoo
06-04-2006, 04:55 PM
once charlie determines that his subs are not complaining about freezing or pixilation, you can probably (hey, I'm no fortuneteller) expect the other channels to go down too.
stormy
06-04-2006, 05:53 PM
oh i'd say in about 2 days you will have ppv and porn back on rom10's and fta's at least for a few more months
dish's call center was swamped so that means their experiment failed!
then again i may be wrong but time will tell
I got many dish subscribers and none complained.
mili
wingster
06-04-2006, 08:41 PM
once charlie determines that his subs are not complaining about freezing or pixilation, you can probably (hey, I'm no fortuneteller) expect the other channels to go down too.
I got many dish subscribers and none complained.
If there was a way to have legit subs (also testing) call and complain, maybe it could buy a little time.
dellsam34
06-05-2006, 03:58 AM
oh i'd say in about 2 days you will have ppv and porn back on rom10's and fta's at least for a few more months
dish's call center was swamped so that means their experiment failed!
then again i may be wrong but time will tell
As long as I still have all HD channels and HDPPV; for me AVR-X is not dead yet, I don't care about other shit.
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