Found 119 not 110

[123kid]

Hey,
I am having the hugest trouble finding satellite 110. I have found 119, using the zip code 32, but I can not seem to find the signal of 110. I am installilng it in an apartment, and the landlord does not want anything attached to the building. So I set it up on a tripod, and got a fence pole from HD. So I set it up in the little area in the back of the apartment, like my porch area. Well like I said I set it up, and was able to find 119 but not 110. Im not really sure what the problem is, I dont know if maybe the trees that are right there where Im aiming are blocking the satellite. It is pretty much the top, the branches and leaves but dont know if that could cause the problem. I was able to find 129, but dont know where to look to find 110. The thing is, if I put it in front of the apartment, I could get a clearer view, but problem with that its not the safest area to be setting up dish, becuase of the neighborhood, and dont want to announce that I have dish setup. So am I close to finding 110, if I found 129. On 119 I got a signal of 75. On the 129, its about 50-60 around there. Any help greatly appreciated. thx

[triniwi]

Hey,
I am having the hugest trouble finding satellite 110. I have found 119, using the zip code 32, but I can not seem to find the signal of 110. I am installilng it in an apartment, and the landlord does not want anything attached to the building. So I set it up on a tripod, and got a fence pole from HD. So I set it up in the little area in the back of the apartment, like my porch area. Well like I said I set it up, and was able to find 119 but not 110. Im not really sure what the problem is, I dont know if maybe the trees that are right there where Im aiming are blocking the satellite. It is pretty much the top, the branches and leaves but dont know if that could cause the problem. I was able to find 129, but dont know where to look to find 110. The thing is, if I put it in front of the apartment, I could get a clearer view, but problem with that its not the safest area to be setting up dish, becuase of the neighborhood, and dont want to announce that I have dish setup. So am I close to finding 110, if I found 129. On 119 I got a signal of 75. On the 129, its about 50-60 around there. Any help greatly appreciated. thx

110 is right next to 119 just move the dish to the lift 1-2 inches and half a inches up.

[123kid]

So it seems like Im really close and I might be able to hit it. I was figuring that 110 was to the right of 119 but I guess I was wrong. So to the left and should I raise the the elevation angle a little bit more?

[123kid]

You know what I raised it up a bit, and turned it slight to left, and left more and everything, then right, and still could not find 110. Like I said Im wondering if the tree is blocking the 110 but not 119. I got 119 on 90 on some transponders already. Cant figure it out though. And the landlord does not want any satellite on the building.

[ikarus1968]

Making a fist with your arm extended to the horizon is a quick astronomical measurement of 10 degrees; close enough as the sats are separated by ~9 degrees.

Your geographical location's longtitude will represent the apex of the satellite arc in your sky:
If your geographic location is <114.5 degrees W. Longitude,
then 110 sat. will be higher is your sky than the 119 sat.
If your geographic location is >114.5 degrees W.,
then 110 sat will be lower than the 119 satellite.
If you're at 114.5 W. then they'll both be the same height/elevation.

Regardless, the difference will probably be less than a few degrees.

You go south of the equator and things reverse, of course; but then so does your azimuth. North of equator, higher W sats are always right of lower W sats - ummm duh... heh :)

Also, note from behind a dual feedhorn dish the lnb on the left points at the satellite with the higher azimuth (the one further right on the horizon) angle of incidence/decledence stuff.

To make a long story short... only if you're in the west coast time zone generally will the 110 sat sit actually lower than the 119. East of say Nevada (and more probably the case) the 110 will be higher.

Hope that helps, was just a little bored.
Regards,
~Ik~

[ikarus1968]

Hmm... you might also want to watch out for any 'overhanging structures', like a patio overhanging yours from the floor above you -- that'll cut signal strength a lot -- or mounting the dish too high and too close to a roof overhang.
Ummm... I've also seen portable suitcase sized ~17" dishes for about $70 on-line -- for camping, RVs, etc.; might be less noticeable.
Ummm... check multiple TPs while aligning to 110 sat... some don't exist on the 110 sat, but do exist on the 119 so that could screw you up.

Try a cheap $5 lazer pointer on the arm of the dish at night to see if it's probably clear viewing between both positions....

Just some more quick suggestions.

Regards,
~IK~

[Raddude]

123Kid, What dish, LNB's and IRD are you using ? Any multiswitches ?

[spanga]

if this helps, 110 and 119 can be retrieved on the same dish that skews....that's how close together they are.....i liked the post saying that some transponders may not come in at your location.....i think 11 is a safe bet but don't quote me on that.....gl

[123kid]

Im using dish 500, and dish pro lnb. And trying to find it, her in the SW.

[cablecowboy]

make sure its on transponder 11. thats a duel transponder. where I live in canada, if you stand behind the dish you want to find the 119 with the left lnb and get a good strong signal and tighten the tilt bolts and tighten the turn bolts so the dish cant move left or right or up or down then skew the dish counter clockwise until the 110 comes in. where I live the skew is almost dead on 120 using a dish 500. Make sure the fence post you are using as a stand is dead level and plum or you will never find 2 satellites.

[Raddude]

Im using dish 500, and dish pro lnb. And trying to find it, her in the SW.
What I was leading to is that if you have a Legacy IRD & DP LNB, you will get the 119 but not the 110.
It should be no problem acquiring signal on both in the Southwest US. 110 might be a little weaker, but still good strength.
If you are using a 501 or 508 PVR at SW ver. P308 there is a bug that makes acquiring signal on both sats. difficult. If that is the case, check both Superdish & Alternate and run check switches.

[stickboyz]

trees in the way!!

[jakey]

Cablecowboy,you mentioned getting 119 and then scew until you get 110?Is that right?I am having a similar problem except I can get 119 and 110 seperately but can't find a position where both signals are coming in.This dish is on the west coast.

[spanga]

make sure from behind the dish 110 lnb is on the right of the y yoke.....rotate (steering wheel motion)...the dish to the left (counterclockwise) if you have 119 signal...clockwise if you have 110....the other one'll be there barring sky obstructions or if your location is outside of 119 footprint.....gl....GO OILERS (CH 241 242 ON 119)

[jakey]

110 lnb is on the right standing behind,will give it a try.

[Aash]

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[123kid]

Well I will see, but if its all that requires of me is to move it up or down, then I can find 110, if its a bit more left or right, then it might be hard.

[spanga]

obstructions, especially trees, can be frustrating as heck.....i lived at a place mid alberta where i got 110 pretty good and found 119...two weeks later the leaves came out on the neighbours trees and 110 stayed and 119 was gone completely.....the old lady loved her trees so i had to live with that......however, you may be surprised at how high an obstuction has to be to block signal......don't quote me on this but i believe that the sat is actually some 25 degrees above the line perpendicular to where the pan looks like it's aimed (not well put ,but you know what i mean?)....119 is indeed more south than 110....the amount varies depending on where you are...gl

[123kid]

I could not find it at all. Nothing at all. I found 119 like nothing. And 110 I could not find. Almost makes me want to have to call somebody to find the sats for me, but hate to have to go to that point.

[genner]

on a single mounted LNB, I can find each 110 or 119 individually. I'm using a 18" DTV dish.
However when I find one or the other and try to put the second lnb next to the mounted one, it can never find the other. Is it my dish? Do I need a dish 500 with twin?