Rom 10 are they really dead?

[BigPappi]

I have read alot about how the rom 10 is dead also how rom 3 is working without ppv and porn, but working, now I have a rom 10 card in my 3900 no I will not bull you and say I have PPV's but All channels are black except on channel 100, the interactive channel, I can still watch ESPN and USA and a few other channels, yes they are small however I get them clear as day, Correct me if I am wrong but does that not mean the ROM 10 can be fixed? Or am I chasing a dead rabbit? Please help

[Crazy1_79]

at this time, there is no fix for them, probally never will be. have to move up to rom 102

[old school]

I've read that, if the atmega's can be programmed the rom 10's should follow. This is just, what I've heard. So, don't flame me for posting this. :D

[qwerty5]

certainly not the best testing device at the moment but its possible.

the coders who used to release the freecode are not convinced to continue supporting them,
on one hand they are small in code size and not yet clear if they will accomodate the required code to support sha-1 since the june 2 ecm into the future,
2nd there are so many out there more than all the ftas together.

many coders relate the recent ecm to the rom10 autoroll, while the new hash is a trend acquired by some other providers I personaly relate the ecm timing to the games and the new dish bird in space that will allow more bandwidth with dish moving channels around, its a scheduled update in stream to nagra2 as we knew it, we dont expect dish to sit and do nthing, and a move by the provier north to the border to secure its signal as required by the CRTC

soon we might see serious ecms to the yellow cams, then someone may praise the days when we tested with devices we knew a lot better.

recent events proved what we dont see as a work in progress on freecode forums, seems to be an already premade fix circulating between select coders or a dealer item, may be someone will throw the fix on us once things change, becomes outdated and we have a little use for it to prove a point or gain some popularity.

agree that we need to consider moving into a better testing method, true frustration kills but may be Charlie this time deserved a present for the thoughtfull ECM and the top coders owed him a bow

[stormy]

some say fta and rom10 caused them to take the recent action and that could well be true- some say if they can't stop the fta rom10 and now the public release of rom3 that we will see a card swap-a card swap will happen
eventually anyway as soon as the numbers are right unless they can narrow it down to us just using the rom102 which is exactly whats happening and once there is just one rom then they lower the boom (card kill) -its a known fact that there are millions of fta's atmegas and old roms in use so obviously they have to attack those first. as long as they keep coming back then the new roms are safer not safe just safer. the more devices running means more targets they have to hit and 7 targets are harder to hit than 1.
if atmega can get ppv again then so can the rom10.
think about this : what happens when only rom 102's will work?
abracadabra its magic a new device comes out . this has been going on for years, the dealers vs the freeware coders. i mean money is the name of the game witch is fine cause we should in some way at least support our forumns
cause without them 90% of the hobbiest are done and with that being said i am done lol and hope i did'nt get to much off topic and remember this is just
my oppinion.
have a good day

[qwerty5]

The issue in canada is affecting the cable and other providers, when satalite goes down few thousand ppl in a city the size of Toronto move to cable, when there is a fix they move back to satalite testing, so FTA affected the whole industry not just the sat provider north to the border, the Canadian Radio and Television Comission CRTC would like the sat provider in Canada to take action to secure its Signals, True there was a card swap and Nagra2 was implemented but nothing was effective, so the CRTC consulted an Engineering firm on what can be done without a card swap and there were few recomendations one of them was the more handshake between the cam and the ird which was the sha-1 that used code on the cam as part of the video decrypting algorithm, there were recomendations to take measures against the ird firmware tampering and to implement ecms to eliminate cam fixes, dish just followed same path as the time was right. both providers are plagued with many of the older receivers still being used by subscribers, and their call centres get swamped with subscribers calling with issues whenever there is a change in the stream, the frequent session keys will cause freezing and issues to some subscribers, the sat companies dont have ownership of the cards that are still in the hands of the kuledski group till the 3 year support term is over then they take ownership, in the meantime any customer complaint gets handled by deactivating and reactivating the receiver and resending of the receiver firmware updates often as updates for that specicfic receiver rather than global commands. thats why weve seen dish late for such an implementation, and often the nroth provider stepping back of an ecm

[BigPappi]

So whaqt you are saying is that we really need someone on the inside to smuggle out all the codes so the cable company does not get overloaded then loses a lot of business? well heck lets pass it on to Time Warner so maybe they will be on our side, that will help us and them all the same time, maybe they could steal the codes and release them slowly so that they can regulate all of it.