ATR with ISO, but none with Unlocker

[superior3]

I am trying to get my 102 going, but i am having a hard time figuring out if it is looped or not. I can read the ATR with the ISO, but cannot read it with the Unlocker. With the unlocker it gives ATR:ff ERror, but with ISO, i get an ATR, but it doesnt seem right.

ANyone have this happen to them?

[Crazy1_79]

post the ATR, it doesn't contain anything personal. is it detecting rom rev and provider?

[superior3]

ATR: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FF 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 31 30 32 20 52 65 76 31 30 33 64
CAM Type: ROM102 Rev103
Setting IFS
Provider: Dish Network


I cant figure this out at all, i am trying to get this going with my 301.13, but i cant tell if the card is working or not. now, i cant write to the card either. How do you remove a blocker if you put one one. I put rom102-v28G-0001-Blocker.zip (http://dssftp.com/files/index.php?m=users) on, but cant tell if it worked or not.

[Crazy1_79]

adjust the pot on your unlocker. if the ohms is way outta whack it will give you errors. I can't tell you where to set it because you didn't state what kind of unlocker you have.

[Crazy1_79]

make sure you have proper flash and card inserted correctly in the loader. it takes newd13 to use nagramaster. You cannot reset a card in N2edit with a unlocker, I do not think you are trying to do this but just to make it clear, I am adding it in there.

[superior3]

I have a mikobu N2 unlocker, i just got it. it has a hole drilled in the top of it, with a white screw on a blue box, is this the pot?

[Crazy1_79]

sure sounds like a pot to me, I do not quite know what ohms it should be at to work with nagramaster. just turn it some and hit reset, turn it some more and hit reset. if it don't work, start turning the other way. I dont' know how sensitive your pot is but if it is a small blue box. it sounds like a multiturn pot so I would suggest half to full turns at a time on the pot adjustments.

[superior3]

Thanks for the help, I cant get them to read in Nagramaster, when i read them I get ATR :FF. When i try to unlock them in Nagramaster, they come up with rev 103, and it goes through the glitching, and eventually give me a good response. But then when i go to read atr i still get the same error

[pecker88]

after you glitch the cam w/ nagramaster and it gives you a good response, do you mean that it installed intercept? If so, you should be able to put cam into ISO and read w/ n2edit v2.0 or nagramaster.

If you are running the loader version of nagramaster, you can glitch the cam, and once intercept is installed, you can also read the cam w/ the same proggy using your loader. As stated, you must use "loader version" of nagramaster to do this.

The regular version of nagramaster Cannot read your cam using your loader. This regular version requires an ISO for reading/writing.

hope this helps.

p.s. I would glitch open w/ nagramaster, then switch to ISO, (making sure its hooked up) and read w/ N2Edit v2.0

[superior3]

I was unaware there was a different Nagramaster. I dont know which one I am using. The weird this is when i put either of my 102s in my iso and read it in nagra2edit, I get the same ATR everytime. Which leads me to beleive something is wrong.

I dont understand what you are saying by installing the intercept. When i go to unlock it, it glitches for awhile and then says, good response, 102 cam now wide open. How do I tell if the intercept was installed or not?

[Crazy1_79]

If you got a different ATR everytime you reset, I would be worried. ATR should be the same everytime.

[Crazy1_79]

if it tells you good response, cam is wide open, intercept has been installed. read the card. and save it. do this a couple times.

[superior3]

Crazy,
Still cant get it to work. i just dont know if I am putting the right Tsop on my box or not. Their are so many different mods out there. Also, I dont know if the card is programming. It says write complete, but it still just doesnt seem like it really wrote to the card.

Could you post me a tsop, and a bin i should use. One which the keys are the same in both. So that way I can get started, once i get this going, I will have no other problems.

[rafiqi]

Same here I get good responce etc.
But when I switch to ISO and try to read the card it gives me a ATR FF card may be locked error.

[NoC]

I am having the same problem. I can reset and get an ATR in Nagedit with an ISO but I can not reset with Nagramaster with a t6 loaded with Newd13 and get an ATR. Can anybody help? Thanks

[Zim]

I had same probwhat kind of iso r u using?

[Bubba Lewey]

It sounds like you guys that are having trouble in NagraMaster need to adjust your pot to get the proper setting for a good ATR and Read. You decrease the resistance to glitch into your card and increase resistance to read it. You will need to determine which way that is for your pot. You don't want low VCC on your CAM for a normal read but do on a glitch.

[NoC]

I think I just realized that I can't use my T-6 Wave II loaded with newd13 to glitch a rom102@103? It doesn't have the 4619 chip? Is that right? I need the Nexus?

[mopar611]

I think I just realized that I can't use my T-6 Wave II loaded with newd13 to glitch a rom102@103? It doesn't have the 4619 chip? Is that right? I need the Nexus?

You only need the 4619 for rev106 and above..

So you should be good to go.. Good Luck..

Mopar