102 cam now open, but still at rev103

[kiutie]

Hy guys, i got a R102 at rev103, went to NMaster, got this message but if i try reset ATR it tells me atr FF, if i go to NEdit, it'll give me the ATR but i won't see that rev243. In NEdit i'm not able to save the eeprom also because the rev is 103 and of corse i get "failed to read the card". What should i do?
Thank's.

[kiutie]

my setup is HU sureshot modded, nwd13 installed. a00f done, Nmaster v2.0. NEdit beta9, and the card is R102 at rev 103, previously married with a receiver.

[Zim]

have u tried (rebelserf 102 omni unlocker stubborn fix)...? I finally got this down and found, it may take a long while but it will glitch

[Crazy1_79]

if Aoff is on, then you can read it.

[kiutie]

Crazy, what do you mean by a00f on? I am using NMaster, should i stop it and run the script for a00f from WinExplorer? I am always able to reset the card with my ISO, but never able to do it with my loader, even after getting the message saying "102 cam now open". I am also not able to read the eeprom in NMaster, what else should i use? And if i get this message, what this means? Should i push clean codespace?
I don't really want to get the image from this card, i just want it to rev243, opened. Any help?
Thanks.

[Metro]

i am having the same problem. Bought a refrub 501 with 102 from ebay. got the card, glitched it with orange nexus. intercept is on and cant read the card. in N2edit is says failed. in Nagramaster it makes like its going to read, but as soon a it starts reading it stops and says "Card Locked??" i have tried the bug restter... let it run till it stopped and still nothing.

any suggestions?

[Caddylover]

Try N2Editv7 or N2Editv9 and see what happens.

[laila]

looks like your card is locked with a private blocker , ask the guy who sold you this unit for its password if you can , i have 1 which reads only halfway and stops (the orange line ),

[Zim]

I have one like this it will read to 9380 and stop...I keep trying to open it but can't ...I thought I screwd it somehow......Is there anyway @ this?

[Metro]

Zim,

Have you tried writing a new bin to it? I have had that before.. i ran the bug resetter and it fixed it. but this last card just will not let me read it. now i tried writing a bin to it. it writes fine and the card is locked. i can unlock the card and write a new bin to it but i cant read it at all.. I have thrown every type of public script, software and trick at it... still wont work.

so in the mean time i will continue to use it on a "write only" bassis and see if anything will come out that might fix it.

Metro

[kiutie]

For me is just NagraEdit which can reset the ATR and another utility called Rom102Studio, but the last one is mostly for finding backdoors i guess and it takes an eternity to get that.
NagraMaster v2 is just giving me ATR FF and there is no way that this card could be locked with a private blocker.
My question no. 1 is: when you see "102 is now open" what is the succession of steps to follow?
Question 2 is if the ATR is not readable with my unlocker, why do i get the unlock successful message?
Anybody else in the same trap?
I have double checked my circuit modd, i've reloaded so many times the atmel chip with nwd13, i'm just wondering what went wrong?
I have also seen something like UFP16, but from the public download area, so many files are corrupted, that right now is not worthed to stay till late in the night to get them, because anyways is just useless, almost all in r102 section are not valid zip files.

[Zim]

well I guess I can do that I just wanted to keep the original image of the card......oh well.....Thanx........(kiutie) as far as your ?'s once you get 6f 00 response and or glitch success you should read the image and save it then try to clean codespace and write back to the card ...you should then have a good card... as far as it saying it is unlocked and it is not...I am not sure but I do have 1 like this as well it will glitch but when I go to read it it says it is locked..and I have tried to write to it with same results.....Although I think it may have been a script I used before this glitching..I was trying an old iso unlocking file before and I think it corrupted my card.... by the way what rev is it at? and have u tried the NagraMaster 1.0 unlocker only?

[kiutie]

thnks Zim, my card is a R102 at rev103. I thought have another question: are you able to read the ATR with NMaster v9? I haven't tried yet the NMaster 1.0 unlocker only, because i don't have it. I would try anything right now, believe me, loll (it's just a groovie laugh) so if it worked for you, i should probably try to play with it.

[Zim]

it is how I unlock most of my cards....only use rebelserf on stubborn one's.......Have u tried Nagramaster 2.0 loader version?

[kiutie]

Zim, that's what i've just tried, i am able thought to get the ATR with this loader version, i get the "102 in now open", but when i try to read the eeprom, evrything is falling, can't read the card, maybe looped? Do you get into this situation ever?
Thanks.

[Zim]

with 2.0 version I have 1 card that gives me 102 now open but, also when I try to read it it won't ...unfortunatley I have not been able to open this card at ALL... if I somehow get it open I will post.....seems I have to get good response in NM 1.0 unlocker or rebelserf omni unlocker stubborn fix.....

[kiutie]

So you wanna say NMaster 2 is worse than NMaster 1 in oppening cards? My WinExplorer is not properly working because of the same crap with the ATR, can't read it when i reset the card.
The other funny thing is that yesterday night i have used NMaster loader version and i could get the bloody ATR, could open the card, but again!!!! couldn't read the eeprom!!!
If you can figure anything else, please let me know to kick charlie's as*.
Cheers!

[Zim]

yes I have not opened a 102 with NM2.0 successfully only in 1.0 unlocker only.....also if you get good response in 2.0 unlocker...try taking your ohms up a bit sometimes I have seen that it will unlock at low ohms but need to turn up my pot to get good atr in the utility....just a sugg. ......also apperantly you get good atr in the 2.0 unlocker otherwise it would tell you it doesn't have an atr or may be looped and wouldn't give you the rom 102 and rev before proceeding....on a couple of mine I went ahead and put a sticker right behind the chip on the card to make better contact but I did this because it wouldn't give me any atr or unlocking atr.....at all

[diasharp]

If your card is marked in the OTP area(i think 3060) you will be able to write but not read your cards.it will still work just no read.
The higher rev cards are populated with 83 anti glitch code.when you glitch onto one it increments your OTP area and screws up the read(but only for the method nagra and n2edit use.Other apps will still read.open your saved bin and see.if you really want there are ways to still get a read... ie the three part read by no1b4me.

Hope this helps.

[kiutie]

Thanks guys, diasharp, so the only way to see if my case is really the variable OTP area is to try to write on the card even if i can't read it?
I'll give that a shot.
Zim, could you send me please a link where to get the rev1 unlocker?
Thank you all.

[Zim]

in the download section under "rom 10x unlocking" It should be #24

[kiutie]

Zim, is that NMaster v1.5 the one you used for rev103? From ROM10x utilities?
Thanks.

[Zim]

no it should read "everything u need for pgr n2 yellow" it also comes with n2 edit and winexplorer... the NM 1.0 unlocker is in there.......

[kiutie]

thanks , got it i'll give it a try!

[kiutie]

Zim, doeas this NM1.0 unlocker usually takes forever to unlock or i got into another kind of trick here? It runs, shows smoothly ---+---+---, sometimes those n's, but no good result with it for about 1/2 day. Did you use the same settings meaning 3C0 420 09 06 05 28 60 in NMaster?
Thanks a lot.

[Zim]

no I use 320 to 420 , 9 , 6 , 0.5 , 39 and 02......once you get it running start playing with the pot till you get those n--+-n+-- and so....DON'T let it run under vcc 35 in other word just stop the proggie and restart so you play with the pot bettween 39 to 35 vcc max, once it gets to 35 stop and restart till you get those n's in this vcc range, once you have done this and get good n's response let the proggie run it should eventually pop......

[kiutie]

Cool, thanks man, i was playing with lower values, maybe that's why couldn't get it unlocked.

[Zim]

have you gotten it open? <kiutie>